Oh, also. On XP, I have a couple mods that still show on the top of the load order (above falloutnv.esm), making the game not load. The modified date shows on both these mods are on 10-21, where falloutnv.ems shows 10-19. So the modified date 'is' later, but the mods still show up on the top of the load order. Sigh. Edit: I also got a program to change the modified and created dates on the files. I set falloutnv to the 19th or something, and the others to the 22nd sometime. Still not working for me. Load order is still staying out of whack. Are we sure its based on modified / created on dates for Windows Xp?