exactly. Whenever I do DB quests, I learn not to talk to him, because when I do kill him, I just feel guilty about it... :confused: :verymad: I feel no remorse!! jk i had oblivion for 360 before i bought it for PC so i knew what to expect, and this time through, i was always 100% chammed and i used a quick-kill spell of my own design on all DB qwests Afterwards, i modded them back to life, but the game cant tell so you still get the kill :thumbsup: