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Okey.. Managed to understand what is going on, but not really.. Somehow one of my mods is changing the original gamefiles, while it should not be possible.. Using MO and this happens when I have yet to start the game.. This is worse than reinstalling since it seems to be more than one mod doing this.. I think I'm done modding now. Thanks for trying to help out.

So Papyrus logs are just used to troubleshoot scripts not working then? (and not CTDs) Btw those were just 2 examples, I'v got about 100-200 errors in the log, depending on if I'm using TES5Merge Patch / Bashed Patch, and none seem to be from the same mod as far as I can tell. This is why I wanted to know, um, like how you managed to understand that "follower3dnpc" thing. I simply couldn't accept that there were no way to troubleshoot my CTD if my loadorder isn't a problem and the fact that there shouldn't be any incompatability issues between them. What I had installed recently was PaMa Patches and I finally felt like starting to use TES5Merged and BashedPatch which should make my game more stable, but somehow that broke my whole game.. I just can't understand it.. Trying to reinstall every single mod now, hoping that it magically solves my issue.. Hate doing that over and over with 300 mods...

Ahh, alright. That does help quite a bit. I was under that impression. But now I'm even more confused.. How am I supposed to troubleshoot it if there is no issue with my loadorder? Is the only option to reinstall it and just accept that my game somehow broke?

Thank you for choosing to interpret that as me saying that I don't need help.. -.- What I'm trying to get help with is to understand wierd stuff like "Cannot open store for class "follower3dnpc", missing file?" or "Error: Unable to bind script QF__010191D9 to 00_andragon_DialogueFollower (0F0191D9) because their base types do not match" with no additional information. I can't understand jack when reading stuff like this.

Well I'v gotten that far but I want to be able to know which one of the issues is making me CTD. Becasue I really can't see what should be causing an issue.. There is currently like a Follower with MCM menu and HelmetToggle and some other crap, that shouldn't make me CTD in my opinion :/ Maybe I could post my current issue and someone could explain what I'm supposed to be looking for, in this case, and try to understand that?.. What information is needed in that case, like just the log or like loadorder and that kinda stuff?

As the title sais, I'm looking for some kinda guide as to how I'm supposed to troubleshoot with Papyrus logs. I can ofc upload my modlist or whatever might be needed, but, I'd really like to get some knowledge on this subject. I'm running 90GBs of mods so I will likely run into more problems than the current ones and would love to be able to fix it myself as soon as any issue occurs. Edit: Well, I figured out what the issue was, a frikkin follower mod.. :p

No, you're right to assume that I don't know anything/to lazy to read, especially since I didn't really state that I have been modding my game quite a bit. Even those who make the mods will eventually forget something. Yeah, It seems like it didn't really matter.. I haven't done anything with my overwrite folder now, and yet it is working somehow.. I've just reinstalled the whole thing, did it the exact same way as I had before.. This issue really is giving me a headache. I guess my game was corrupted in some way or like the .hkx (skeleton) were missing or in the wrong placer. Although I dont have both XPMS and XPMSE this time so you might have been right about what caused the problem. I don't know why it works but it's nice to have it running once again! We somehow got it running! Giving me hints and ideas that leads to solving it is all I ask for. Doesn't really matter if it was because of your suggestions or w/e. I wanted a stable game and by combining our thoughts my wish was ganted :laugh: Thank you! :kiss:

Well, with MO it doesn't seem to matter since it basiclly tells me that XMPS doesen't do anything when XPMSE is installed, I will try it with just one at a time to see if that's it but I'v got to reinstall everything since I'm pretty sure I'v broken my game at this point. Yeah, that I do pay attention to in the descriptions, since I'm using like 200 mods it would be next to imposible to get the game running without doing so. I just use a buttload of these for certain mods that doesn't wanna work unless it is installed. Guessing that only a few files are needed but not all.. Really? From what I'v read they should be syncroniced into the affected mods and in some cases become a new mod.. Gah.. Ohh well, Ill just take my time and go trough a gudie for safetys sake anyway because I'm tierd of reinstalling, both my game, and all the mods, in the right order.. :pinch: Guess I can add a few new mods while I'm at it :laugh: Thank you for your time and help! Got a few other Ideas aswell to try out. I'll be back if none of this helps, although it seems unlikely due to the fact that there shouldn't be such gamebreaking incompatabilities between any of these mods as far as I know.

I think I know what I'v done wrong.. I haven't remembered to check the overwrite folder :ermm: Guhh time to reinstall all of it once again I guess..

Installed " Pretty Combat Animations " which did change the idle but the issue remains, I still dont have any animation when I'm running with my weapons drawn. In case of confusion it's the same when I'm using other weapons I just happend to dual wield when I took the screenshots.

Mod list with those that I could imagine had some sort of relevancy: Dual Sheath Redux Dual Sheath Redux for Perkus Maximus Perkus Maximus - Maximum Perk Overhaul Perkus Maximus Extended Perk Descriptions Sneak Tools Immersive Patrols (and all of its components) The TBBP animation of Dragonfly with butt bounce Flying Mod Beta Animated Dragon Wings Amazing Follower Tweaks PS Universal PC NPC Body Changer HDT Physics Extensions HDT HighHeels System FNIS Sexy Move Adult Show XXX - ASX 【Skeleton】XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended XP32 Maximum Skeleton -XPMS (dont know why I have both) Realistic Ragdolls and Force Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE- RaceMenu Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS Feel free to judge me but lets keep it out of the discussion :laugh:

Yeah.. Thats why i tried DSR, to try and get some sort of clue to which it was. My best guess is that it could be something like XPMS not willingly cooperationg with Perma.. Or something similar. I mean, I must have animations for it since the issue appears after instailling Perma, and if it were to be overwritten, simple logic tells me that it then should just be a different animation playing.. but a skeleton could be what's causing some sort of incompatability.. I'll probably have to look through my list and see if I have 2 skeleton mods, that might be why it acts up when Skyproc has been run. To simplify my theory: Perma thinks I want to use both skeletons and that somehow results in neither working (I don't know why the outcome would be this since a crash seems more appropriate but whatever.. :laugh:) I'll come back with an uptade about my theory. Edit: Nope, just 1 skeleton so there goes that theory.. Got any ideas on other animation mods I could try out?

Ohh, sorry if what I wrote was a bit cryptic but that is exactly what I meant that I have done. Yes I also run FNIS after installing any mod even if it's not FNIS related.

Hello, I'v been having a strange issue ever since I installed Perma (Perkus Maximus) and hope someone might know what the hell I'v managed to screw up.. To make it as simple as possible I'll just give you a few screenshots which should make the issue easy to spot. As you can see, the animation for moving with weapons drawn seem to be missing.. The only time it does work is when I'm jumping or standing still. I also seem to have screwed up my "Dual Sheath Redux" install somehow since the game tells me that I need to run skyproc as soon as I start the game. Yes, I ofcourse have tried it or rather I did as soon as I installed it.. Could it be that i installed the "Dual Sheath Redux for Perkus Maximus"? Thinking it might be outdated or something which somehow could screw it up. (yes I installed them in the right order since I'm not that new to modding that I dont know what a patch is for) I can live without having Dual Sheath Redux working since I acually installed it hoping it would miracously fix my animation issue.. :laugh: