I never liked LOOT, it always f***ed up my load order. With some basic knowledge and logical thinking, sorting manually is eays. Well ok, took me about ne year to get my load order and modlist stable at least. :smile: What grass mod do you use in those screenshots? Verdant? I use verdant, together with Flora Overhaul, but it does not look that good. After testing SE much more i have to say, it is still ugly as hell. Lighting gotta be fixed, that orange tint is disgusting, ENB has to update, SKSE needed. I will go back to my old skyrim for now and wait a few weeks to see whats coming. About performance..... after adding verdant Grass, Noble Skyrim and Skyrim Flora Overhaul, the FPS went down to 50-55 in some areas around riverwood, with a GTX970, i7 3.5 GhZ and 8 GB Ram. I'm using Skyrim Flora Overhaul, Verdant and unique ground grasses and ground covers.