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Ok, I reinstalled my Fallout 3 nad installed mods again, but I also decided to remove some mods. Game is running well now. No CTDs, no freezeing. My new load order: [X] Fallout3.esm[X] Anchorage.esm[X] BrokenSteel.esm[X] PointLookout.esm[X] ThePitt.esm[X] Zeta.esm[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm[X] CRAFT.esm[X] CALIBR.esm[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm[X] AWorldOfPainFO3.esm[X] RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm[X] BrokenSteel2.esp[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp[X] TweaksAutoSave.esp[X] Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp[X] FO3 NPCs Travel.esp[X] BoSPatrols.esp[X] Wasteland Soldier Armor.esp[X] WeaponModKits.esp[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp[ ] WeaponModKits - FWE Talon Loot Crash Fix.esp[X] RH_WMK_Bridge.esp[X] Clean-Deluxe GOTY.esp[X] BetterGamePerformance.esp[X] Rooses Performance Pack.esp[X] Performance Mods Merged Patch.esp[X] JIP Companions Command & Control.esp[X] JIP Fast-Travel Anywhere.esp[X] Bashed Patch, 0.esp[X] XENH.esp[X] Flora Overhaul.esp[X] Enhanced Weather - REBOOT.esp[X] Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp[X] 2Perks Per Level.esp[ ] BlackWolf Backpack.esp I removed MMM, EVE nad PB. Earlier I was suspicious to FWE, but FWE wasn't making my game crash, I must say that. Could it be MMM? I don't know and I'm not going to check this atm. I also did merged patch for performance mods (since I installed Flora Overhaul I need them to keep my FPS on decent level). Everything is working fine now. Thanks for all suggestions and tips. This topic can be closed now. Cheers.

Sorted all mods with BOSS. Looks better. But problem still apears. Especially around Megaton, Springfield School and Duper Market. Suprisingly, something strange is happening with shadows in game now. All shadows in interiors are flickering. However increasing FOV and turning on Bloom is hiding it. I think FWE is responsible for all my problems.

I already did that but FWE compatibility list is gone. Can't find it anywhere. Someone told me that MMM's increased spawns are causing problems so I'll try to change spawns options. Anyway thanks for suggestions, gunslinger6792 :smile:

Rooses Performance Mod is causing crashes for some, I don't think it's OK to install this mod along with Better Game Performance and Clean Deluxe. Also you shouldn't install this mod with any other that removes fire barrels (for example in Rivet City). Error Fix is already included in UUF3P. IMHO Pure Cell Buffers Mods are more problematic than helpful. I recommend installing optimized F3 textures avaiable to download in > HERE <

Thank you for your answer. LOOT sorted all my mods, the load order looks like this now: [X] Fallout3.esm[X] Anchorage.esm[X] ThePitt.esm[X] BrokenSteel.esm[X] PointLookout.esm[X] Zeta.esm[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm[X] CALIBR.esm[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm[X] Project Beauty.esm[X] EVE.esm[X] AWorldOfPainFO3.esm[X] CRAFT.esm[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp[X] Clean-Deluxe GOTY.esp[X] BetterGamePerformance.esp[X] BrokenSteel2.esp[X] Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp[X] 100% Force Lock Chance.esp[X] Action_Boy_hacking.esp[X] JIP Fast-Travel Anywhere.esp[X] 1PipboyPDA.esp[X] Blackened FWE + MMM + EVE + Project Beauty.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp[X] Fellout-Full.esp[X] Realistic Interior Lighting.esp[X] FO3 NPCs Travel.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp[X] WeaponModKits.esp[X] CALIBR Ammo Schematics - CRAFT.esp[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp[X] UniqueItems_1.1_ENG.esp[X] XENH.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Talon Loot Crash Fix.esp[X] BBBackpacks-v1-1.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp[X] Zombie Mod.esp[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp[X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp[X] CRBSOR [Achievements Removed].esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp[X] (TWPC) BBB-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp[X] (TWPC) WMK-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp I tried the method you told me and it seems that FWE and MMM are causing CTDs. Is there anything I can do with this?

Hey, guys. I have a problem with my Fallout 3 GOTY. Game is crashing ever 15-20 minutes, always when going to exteriors (through the doors or gates, for instance leaving Megaton to Wastelands). My load order: [X] Fallout3.esm[X] Anchorage.esm[X] BrokenSteel.esm[X] PointLookout.esm[X] ThePitt.esm[X] Zeta.esm[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm[X] CRAFT.esm[X] CALIBR.esm[X] Project Beauty.esm[X] EVE.esm[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm[X] AWorldOfPainFO3.esm[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp[X] BrokenSteel2.esp[X] CALIBR Ammo Schematics - CRAFT.esp[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp[X] UniqueItems_1.1_ENG.esp[X] XENH.esp[X] Clean-Deluxe GOTY.esp[X] BetterGamePerformance.esp[X] Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp[X] WeaponModKits.esp[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Talon Loot Crash Fix.esp[X] FO3 NPCs Travel.esp[X] 100% Force Lock Chance.esp[X] Action_Boy_hacking.esp[X] JIP Fast-Travel Anywhere.esp[X] 1PipboyPDA.esp[X] BBBackpacks-v1-1.esp[X] Blackened FWE + MMM + EVE + Project Beauty.esp[X] Bashed Patch, 0.esp[ ] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp[ ] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp[ ] CRBSOR [Achievements Removed].esp[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp[ ] (TWPC) BBB-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp[ ] (TWPC) WMK-UUF3P-FWE Patch.esp[ ] PAtch.esp All unselected mods below Bashed Patch are included into it. List is already masterupdated with FO3Edit. I'm using MMM merged version (but game was crashing with nonmerged as well). Ini file is prepared for multicore CPUs (I have 2 cores CPU with 4 logical procesors) and several other tweaks form tweakguide. 4GB patch installed (along with CFF Explorer tweaks). Game is running smoothly on high details. There is no problem with performance at all. All necessary compatibility patches seems to be installed properly. So I have no idea what's wrong. Hope to find solution in here, from nexus community. Cheers.

Woot. Ok, I will. But truly I'm suprised to hear that. BOSS was always one of my most important tools. Looks like my knowledge is outdated... I give up. I gonna reinstall my F3 Goty. I see huge incompatibility between WMK and RH and I can't make these mods work together. I downloaded suggested compatibility plugins from RH Ironsights but once it's working, and once it doesn't. There is something really messed up with Rooses Performance mod. Sometimes after save load I fall under textures. And i removed XENH. PB is enough to make good looking character. I gonna try LOOT. Thanks for bringing me out of the mistake. PS. Oh noez, Win XP is not supported anymore :/ Is there a way to run LOOT on win xp ?

Remove all these. They're included in the master file if you're using the Updated UF3P. Also place the UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp right under all the FWE optional plugins. I think you should leave it as it is. Your graphics card is probably even older then this game is btw. A couple hundred bucks could get you a new(er) computer with way better performance then that... thing. Ok, done. Yes, it's true, my GPU is pretty old. But I am still able to play games like Mass Effect trilogy or Gothic trilogy with high detail. So it's not that bad I guess :tongue: I don't really need computer to games like newest Far Cry or AC. I'm playing older games mostly. But I think I could get Geforce GTS 450 1GB GDDR5 or Geforce 9800GT 1GB. We'll see. Thank you for help guys. I will try all suggestions now and see if everything is fine now. PS. I have a crash log (I think). 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Ok I downloaded FOIP WMK-FWE. 3GB Enabler used. Now it looks like this: Fallout3.esm Anchorage.esm ThePitt.esm BrokenSteel.esm PointLookout.esm Zeta.esm Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm CRAFT.esm CALIBR.esm Project Beauty.esm FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm Mart's Mutant Mod.esm RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp RCmarketNoFire.esp BetterGamePerformance.esp Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp CASM.esp BrokenSteel2.esp BlackWolf Backpack.esp MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp RH_FWE_Bridge.esp FWE weapons pack.esp WeaponModKits.esp WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp WeaponModKits - FWE Talon Loot Crash Fix.esp WMK-RH IronSights.esp Lookout Outfits.esp 1PipboyPDA.esp Clean-Deluxe GOTY.esp Realistic Interior Lighting.esp FallenBrothersArmor.esp ManualReload.esp falloutperformance.esp JIP Companions Command & Control.esp No Blur Effect.esp Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro.esp RH_WMK_Bridge.esp UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp Blackened FWE + MMM + Project Beauty.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp What do you thing about this? Should I change something? http://i61.tinypic.com/nq1f5x.jpg Hmm guys. Or perhaps some of my mods needs TES4 Cleaning?

English is not my main language so it's quite difficult for me to read everything. But you're right I should do it. I downloaded and installed latest UUF3P and selected main files, all dlc and misc during installation. I have also rare crashes without reason while running. I was going to Springville School from Megaton and there was a crash in a half way. No log, no reason. My new load order: Fallout3.esm Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm Anchorage.esm ThePitt.esm BrokenSteel.esm PointLookout.esm Zeta.esm CRAFT.esm CALIBR.esm Project Beauty.esm FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm Mart's Mutant Mod.esm Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp BrokenSteel2.esp BetterGamePerformance.esp Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp CASM.esp BlackWolf Backpack.esp MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp FWE weapons pack.esp FallenBrothersArmor.esp WeaponModKits.esp WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp WeaponModKits - FWE Talon Loot Crash Fix.esp WMKAA12Shotgun.esp Lookout Outfits.esp ManualReload.esp 1PipboyPDA.esp Clean-Deluxe GOTY.esp Realistic Interior Lighting.esp falloutperformance.esp JIP Companions Command & Control.esp Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro.esp No Blur Effect.esp RCmarketNoFire.esp RH_WMK_Bridge.esp WMK-RH IronSights.esp RH_FWE_Bridge.esp UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp Blackened FWE + MMM + Project Beauty.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Total active plugins: 61 Total plugins: 61 MMM, RH and Realistic Interior lightning is from Paradox Ingnition. To paradox ingnition RH Ironsights I couldn't find "Better Uniques" mod so I installed without it. Not sure if thats a real problem. I already restored all files in FO3Edit as you said. I cleaned up falloutperformance.esp by fo3edit of UDR. Someone suggested me to do it. My PC: Intel Core 2 Duo 2x2400Mhz 4GB RAM Geforce 8600GTS 256mb GDDR3. Game is running smoothly, no stuttering, no lagging. No out of memory crashes. Oh and one more thing. I am already after reinstalling game once. Before I had exactly the same problems.

Thank you for your response guys. Some of plugins are not loaded because they're merged into bashed patch. The load order you see is just copied to clipboard in FOMM so perhaps that's why it didn't include unloaded plugins. I do use WMK-FWE patch along with RH-WMK, RH-FWE and UUF3P-FWE compatibility plugins. I was trying to get best possible compatibility. I am also using some fixes like FWE-WKM Talon Loot Crash and it helps. I have normall MMM version. Didn't knew about Paradox Ignition. I will try this out. Thanks :blush: . Of course I'm opened for any ideas to solve my problem. Especially because I'm playing on Hard difficulity so with FWE it's really annoying to restart game after every death or even quick load... @gromulos Very helpful guide. But I was trying everything, seriously and nothing helps. That's why i decided to look for help on forums :smile: Created Bashed Patch. Sorting by BOSS and checking FO3edit and FO3MasterUpdate. @M48A5 Ok, I installed MMM Merged, also RH Ironsights merged and Realistic Interior Lightning. Looks better. But problem still occur:(

Hey guys. So heres my problem. When I'm loading save game after dying I can't hit anybody. Doesnt matter what save I load or what gun I use. So when I am trying to kill someone and I die, game restart is needed or my bullets goes throught my enemies. I can't search any bodies as well. Fallout3.esm Anchorage.esm ThePitt.esm BrokenSteel.esm PointLookout.esm Zeta.esm Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm CRAFT.esm CALIBR.esm Project Beauty.esm FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm Mart's Mutant Mod.esm RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp RCmarketNoFire.esp BetterGamePerformance.esp CASM.esp RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp RH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.esp RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp RH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.esp RH_IronSights_Vanilla_NewWeapons.esp BrokenSteel2.esp BlackWolf Backpack.esp MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp FWE weapons pack.esp WeaponModKits.esp WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp WMK-RH IronSights.esp WMKAA12Shotgun.esp Lookout Outfits.esp Mart's Mutant Mod.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp 1PipboyPDA.esp Clean-Deluxe GOTY.esp Realistic Interior Lighting.esp Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp XENH.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp JIP Companions Command & Control.esp ManualReload.esp UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro.esp RH_WMK_Bridge.esp RH_FWE_Bridge.esp Blackened FWE + MMM + Project Beauty.esp FallenBrothersArmor.esp Total active plugins: 71 Total plugins: 82 Normally my bashed patch is loaded last**** I was just trying to fix my problem myself. Unsuccesfuly. I have Fallout GOTY edition with latest Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.

Thanks for help girls. You're so cool people.

My game is crashing in interiors and exteriors. Perhaps something is wrong with my load order or mod compatibility. I'm not sure. My Load Order: Oblivion.esm Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm Mart's Monster Mod.esm CM Partners.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp !Oblivion_PL.esp Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp IWR-Windows.esp IWR-Lights.esp IWR-Shutters.esp DropLitTorchOBSE.esp Streamline 3.1.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Locks.esp Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Durability & Damage.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp The Lost Spires.esp HUD Status Bars.esp Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp MidasSpells.esp Denock Arrows.esp Oblivion XP.esp CM Partners.esp CM Partners Special NPCs.esp CM Partners NPC.esp CM Partners More NPCs.esp CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp Q - Carrying Capacity x10 v1.0.esp UVIII.esp CapesandCloaks.esp Shield on Back 3.1.esp Underworld Armor.esp MGRPatch.esp Bashed Patch.esp Can anyone help? Any ideas? Thanks for any help.