Panbot3000

lol Nevermind. Just noticed you already downloaded this and it fixed things. Atleast it provides a reference for anyone else who has this problem now. :tongue:

I have this exact problem and never seem to have good experiences near Kvatch. I remember when I had Oblivion on 360 I got into a fight near Kvatch and ran away only to find that I was still classed as being in combat and the battle music just played constantly. Anyway I found installing Oblivion Crash Prevention System (weOCPS) stopped the crash though I havent tested it extensively so I dont know the long term effects or if its completely fixed the issue. I also reinstalled the Unofficial Oblivion patch incase some mods had overwritten any files installed by it. My mod list is as follows: Oblivion.esm EnhancedWeather.esm Cobl Main.esm TamrielTravellers.esm Armamentarium.esm cssBase.esm CM Partners.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Atmospheric Loading Screens - Original Text.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp EnhancedWeather.esp EnhancedWeather - Darker Nights, 80.esp All Natural - Real Lights.esp Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp AmbientTownSounds.esp Rainbows.esp AliveWaters.esp AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp nmDLTIC-1-6.esp Fish! - v1.1.esp NPCs Eat More.esp UNKNOWNYMOUS Social NPCs.esp Enhanced Economy.esp moDem's City Life.esp Crowded Roads.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp Ranokoas Organized Potions.esp kuerteeHorseCommands.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Cobl Glue.esp Cobl Si.esp Cobl Tweaks.esp ArmamentariumLL.esp ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp CurseOfHircine.esp Creature Diversity.esp Polar Bear v2.esp Leveled List Overhaul.esp TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp TamrielTravellers.esp TamrielTravellersFactionAll.esp TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp dangerous wilderness.esp Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp FuseSnailRacing.esp Lobo_the_Wolf_v101.esp Sylar_INNMergedCyrodillInnsRevised.esp LGD's Arena Enhanced.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp xuldarkforest.esp xulStendarrValley.esp xulTheHeath.esp XulEntiusGorge.esp xulFallenleafEverglade.esp xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp xulChorrolHinterland.esp xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp xulBravilBarrowfields.esp xulLushWoodlands.esp xulAncientYews.esp xulAncientRedwoods.esp xulCloudtopMountains.esp xulArriusCreek.esp xulPatch_AY_AC.esp xulRollingHills_EV.esp xulPantherRiver.esp xulRiverEthe.esp xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp xulImperialIsle.esp Fuses Snail Racing Unique Landscapes Imperial Isle patch.esp xulBlackwoodForest.esp xulCheydinhalFalls.esp xulAspenWood.esp xulSkingradOutskirts.esp Millstone_Farm_COBL.esp MillstoneCOBL_UL_Patch.esp Update1-9881.esp Arena_Capacity_Crowds-5845.esp Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp ANB_No_FastTravel.esp CompanionMaster.esp CompanionHorseSupportFIX forCMPartners.esp ImmersiveHealthIndication.esp P1DkeyChain.esp RedBag - Friendly Animals.esp SRJIrresponsibleHorses.esp Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp Alternate Start Revamped.esp Natural Hunger v2_1 by QF.esp RealSleep.esp LTDVampireOverhaul.esp MidasSpells.esp Wizard'sSpellBook.esp Faster Spells.esp No psychic guards v1.2.esp Dark Dungeons.esp Dark Dungeons - SI.esp Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp CM Partners.esp CM Partners NPC.esp CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp cssImoen.esp CompanionshipRing.esp Dogmeat Companion.esp Sonia.esp DARaewyn.esp Cobl Races.esp Cobl Races TNR.esp Cobl Races TNR SI.esp cidnothumpMMversion.esp Cobl Races - Balanced.esp TF_timemod1-20.esp Get Wet Dark.esp BubbleFx.esp no compass markers v1.0.esp no compass quest marker v1.0.esp Enhanced Grabbing.esp Also have a few texture replacers, the main one being QTP3 with some alterations to make the meshes less complex. All natural, COBL, city life and ultimate landscapes seem to be the only common mods. I had heard instances of city life causing crashes in the IC but I havent had any and can't see why it would cause a crash near Kvatch. As you say UL was my first thought too. In your case you may need some compatibility patches as you seem to have lots of overhaul mods. Patches Cant be certain though as I've only had the game on PC for 3 weeks and have yet to play the game for more than an hour before quitting and finding more mods :sweat: . Plus my load order, mods and computer are different so what works for me might not work for you. Anyway, hope that was of any help. :smile:

Hi. I've noticed that all the standard vanilla npcs talk to each other but the new npcs and companions added by mods just stand and stare at each other. Also companions and new npc's dont seem to want to greet me which is ok as i found a mod to make that less weird, but they still stare at me without saying anything which just seems odd. The main mods ive added are CM Companions and modems city life, which work fine, except for this. Theres also Tamriel Travellers and Crowded Roads but I havent noticed whether this affects them yet. Anyway to sum up. My NPC's added by mods are far too silent and i dont like everyone staring at me and each other without saying something :tongue: Is this normal or does it sound like somethings wrong? Mods/Load List (sorry its a bit long): Sorted by BOSS Oblivion.esm EnhancedWeather.esm Cobl Main.esm TamrielTravellers.esm Armamentarium.esm cssBase.esm CM Partners.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Atmospheric Loading Screens - Original Text.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp EnhancedWeather.esp EnhancedWeather - Darker Nights, 80.esp All Natural - Real Lights.esp Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp AmbientTownSounds.esp Rainbows.esp AliveWaters.esp AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp nmDLTIC-1-6.esp Fish! - v1.1.esp NPCs Eat More.esp Portable Bedroll.esp Enhanced Economy.esp moDem's City Life.esp Crowded Roads.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp kuerteeHorseCommands.esp Ranokoas Organized Potions.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Cobl Glue.esp Cobl Si.esp Cobl Tweaks.esp ArmamentariumLL.esp ArmamentariumLLmagic.esp ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp TamrielTravellers.esp TamrielTravellersFactionAll.esp TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp FuseSnailRacing.esp Insanity's Pet Shop.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp The Lost Spires.esp xuldarkforest.esp xulStendarrValley.esp xulTheHeath.esp XulEntiusGorge.esp xulFallenLeafEverglade.esp xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp xulChorrolHinterland.esp xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp xulbravilbarrowfields.esp xulLushWoodlands.esp xulAncientYews.esp xulAncientRedwoods.esp xulCloudtopMountains.esp xulArriusCreek.esp xulPatch_AY_AC.esp xulRollingHills_EV.esp xulPantherRiver.esp xulRiverEthe.esp xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp xulImperialIsle.esp Fuses Snail Racing Unique Landscapes Imperial Isle patch.esp xulBlackwoodForest.esp xulCheydinhalFalls.esp xulAspenWood.esp xulSkingradOutskirts.esp Update1-9881.esp Arena_Capacity_Crowds-5845.esp Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp ANB_No_FastTravel.esp CompanionHorseSupport.esp CompanionHorseSupportFIX forCMPartners.esp ImmersiveHealthIndication.esp P1DkeyChain.esp Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp tag_NaturalWildlife.esp Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp Easy Sleep v11.esp Easy Eating v1.esp MidasSpells.esp Faster Spells.esp No psychic guards v1.2.esp Dark Dungeons.esp Dark Dungeons - SI.esp Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp CM Partners.esp CM Partners NPC.esp CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp cssMazzy.esp Dogmeat Companion.esp Sonia.esp DARaewyn.esp Cobl Races.esp Cobl Races TNR.esp Cobl Races TNR SI.esp Cobl Races - Balanced.esp TF_timemod1-10.esp Get Wet Dark.esp

Fairly self explanatory. I really dont like the Arena Raiments currently as I find I only use them in the arena even if i have no better armour. I've looked for some mods but cant find any that suit as I want more of a replacement than an addon for my own character. Basically so the NPCs use it as well. Searching Gladiator in google images gives a good idea of what i mean. If not is there a way to download some armour mods and then convert these into arena raiments instead. Thanks in advance for any suggestions :smile: p.s. Sorry if the way i've written this causes any confusion. I'm a bit tired.

Hi. I've got oblivion for the PC recently and added loads of new mods immediately. I have it for the 360 as well but dont remember seeing this. Basically I can see wolfs and rats (probably would be any other NPC that had invisibility on them) that have the invisible spell on them, through forts, rocks, the ground, you name it. I would post a screenshot but well its a little hard to find them and then get a screenshot before they notice you and its self explanatory anyway. But it is noticeable when playing. Ive disabled all my mods in the data files and the problem persists. Is this normal because its one of those little things that kills the immersiveness that ive tried to create. If you need any extra info I will provide it. Thanks :smile: