Re the question about why "everyone" hates console players. A few issues; A lot of people who are not tech savvy, can easily use consoles to play games, then when they get stuck they come online and ask newbie-like questions. Nothing wrong with that at all of course, but, it gives the entire "community" the veneer of being unknowledgeable about computers. It's pretty much the same the same stigma AOLers suffered. Add to that, the fact that a lot of companies make games for consoles, and don't make the same games for the PC, giving the feeling among some PC gamers that console users are hurting the PC gaming community. Look at EA Sports for example, they've stopped making games like the NHL line for the PC citing piracy concerns. That sort of thing causes a backlash unfortunately. I guess those are the two main things which contribute to the negativity. Personally I say, use whatever gaming device you can to play whatever games you want :)