MajorKiller

so do I have to re-install the omod of better cities in order to get compatibility or can I download the compatibility patch somewhere

I came across this http://www.theengineeringguild.co.uk/oblivion-mods-unsupported does anyone know if this quest pack along with Origins of the Mages Guild compatible with better cities? I'll post my load order as well

so I can start up the game fine and can load a save fine from the main menu. however, when I'm in game I can't load a save or else the game crashes on me. so I figured I would resolve this by exiting to the main menu after I die or want to load a save and I can do it, but only one time. after I exit to he main menu and load a save the second time my game crashes. any idea what's going on here because this is very weird.

yeah and if you murder someone but no one sees you, then you should not have a bounty

oh haha I guess I misunderstood the topic

Yes, that's exactly what I mean. No guards. In the Morrowind manual it even says, "violence is an accepted part of Nord culture," so it's clear that Bethesda is aware of this knowledge. apparently there will be "duels" for people to settle their differences so I'm sure they will have guards and you will just be able to challenge someone

the type of engine that it is using would be really cool to know to get an idea about the graphics

UAC is pretty unnecessary, while it does lead to a more secure system it is really annoying to not just be able to put games in your program files folder. I've had UAC off since I started using vista and have had no problems at all

I wouldn't bother with it and just turn UAC off, it's a useless feature but if you really want to install outside of steam directory then here http://www.themoreuknow.net/blog/blog/archive/2007/09/29/moving-your-steam-install/ I'd say it's more trouble than its worth though. also do not copy and past the folder, you will have to re-install it but you can still download and play user created maps in the default directory. and finally no, OBSE does not come with oblivion but you can get it here http://obse.silverlock.org/ happy modding :)

I'm no expert, but your computer might be needing more RAM than it is able to get while you are in the waterfront. There is a lot of water and open space to process. Have you tried installing Streamline? If I remember right, it will adjust your graphics to keep you inside an FPS range. Also, since your game is heavily modded, you may want to look through this. wow dude that completely fixed the problem, I'm getting a ton more FPS too and It doesn't crash anymore thx a lot

purchase the steam game of the year deluxe so u get all the dlc, and yes mods are compatible with steam. just make sure that when you install OBSE (oblivion script extender) you follow the instructions for the steam version

well something I forgot to mention was that it was working fine (I could spend tons of time in the waterfront without issue) until I installed the weather all natural mod. the mod caused lots of problems and I would see black textures in the sky, probably because I was using OBGE with it. at least that is my guess, but anyways it started messing up right after I installed so I uninstalled it, removed the bashed patch settings and reverted to an older one that was working. after uninstalling when I went to the waterfront I would either crash while trying to open the door to the waterfront, or crash while exiting to the waterfront tunnels. I also saw black LOD textures before I crashed, and again all this wasn't happening until I installed the weather all natural so I assume that is the problem somehow.

something weird has been happening, I notice that I can go lots of places and play oblivion for a long time without crashing but when i go to the imperial city waterfront I crash for some reason. I get fairly low FPS before it happens so I'm not sure if it is an FPS related crash. anyone know what could be the problem? here's my load order. I haven't built a lot of my mods into a bashed patch as well, except for FCOM and some other mods of course but better cities and a lot of my other mods have not been built into the patch Oblivion.esm Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm Cobl Main.esm Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm Mart's Monster Mod.esm FCOM_Convergence.esm Better Cities Resources.esm HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Better Cities .esp Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp FCOM_Francescos.esp FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp LoadingScreens.esp Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Cobl Glue.esp Cobl Si.esp Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp FCOM_BobsArmory.esp Oblivion WarCry EV.esp FCOM_WarCry.esp Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp FCOM_Cobl.esp FCOM_Convergence.esp FCOM_RealSwords.esp Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp OOO-WaterFish.esp MMM-Cobl.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp RealisticForceMedium.esp RealisticMagicForceLow.esp MidasSpells.esp Better Cities Full.esp Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp Better Imperial City.esp Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp Better Cities - COBL.esp Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp ElaborateEyes.esp

woops I meant to say sometimes I get a CTD when i exit oblivion, but now thats not even happening so CTD's seem to be resolved with my current patch but I will keep trying to make it better. now the only thing is that I have some stuttering, but I think that has always happened so I guess I will have to deal with that thanks for your help

well the only mods I added to the bashed patch was FCOM, cobl, and some other mods but I've installed many other mods after that and have never put them into the patch and the game ran fine. I just played oblivion for a while to see if I got crashes and I didn't get any at all, except sometimes I got a CTD... very weird especially because I was just getting them so maybe it's ok now but I guess I will try and figure out ways to make a new bashed patch with all my mods