Just trying to cover all bases as I asked a buddy of mine if he had a solution and he said I needed LOOT, didn't seem right considering everything was working perfectly fine so I thought I'd try a post here instead. Thanks, I was worried it was going to be a royal pain holding out slight hope that it wouldn't be and had those hopes dashed on the jagged rocks of realty where they died a horrible painful death, scarred a local child that stumbled upon them when combing the beach for shells and put them in therapy for years and years where the vision of the mangled and broken remains still haunt their nightmares. At least I have a step by step for a confirmed working method though so silver linings.