Ive chosen to establish a topic devoted to finding a solution to this, as its a problem some others have, and searching for posts related to this is tedious since clever people like to name their topics with something as generic as dawnguard bugs. So the problem here is that it is possible to enter first person mode for a second or two before the game forces you back to third person. Notes: Persists after clean installation. New games are unaffected. Save affected has significant progress. (Leader of most factions, significant side quests done.) Old version of character's save from weeks back doesn't have this problem. (Too little progress to use however) Kicks you back after a specific tick(2 seconds). If you enter in the beginning or end of that interval, you might remain in 1st person for .5 seconds or 1.5 seconds. (Suggests script) Now I've read of a few things in the past how certain mods can leave scripts in your game, and other Bethesda quests (such as mind of madness) can have looping scripts even once you finish the quest. Im thinking this is dawnguard conflicting with it. It might be some quest I completed between these two save points that has a script running that shouldn't be. One other possibility is that my character used to be vampire, but I used console commands to cure this. Could be an incompatibility there. Either way, these are just the observations of someone who has done too much troubleshooting, but im stumped at this point. Forums doesnt want me uploading my papyrus log, and not sure how to set a spoiler box for it. Meh. :psyduck: