windie

Right, I totally forgot to mention I wasn't including the beast/reptilian races as I see them in a whole different category. I remember way back when Morrowind came out, I couldn't stand the looks of any humanoid race so I made an Argonian. Speaking of which, that reminds me of the helmet topic. Back in Morrowind Argonians and Khajit couldn't wear helmets that fully cover the face, nor could they wear shoes/brogans, which makes more sense than replacing the head sprite with the helmet sprite (the way it's done in Skyrim). Anyway, back on topic. You've obviously never played Lineage 2 :P Orcs are still better looking than the default Nords, Imperials, and elves.

It might be just me really sucking at making characters, but it seems so damn difficult or impossible to make other races look really nice even with mods. My character for example, is a Redguard female, the majority of the sliders are from a preset, with a few adjustments. In my opinion, she looks great. I'm using the envision faces mod, and the apachiiskyhair mod. Yet somehow all other races, especially elves, seem to come out ugly even if I spend some time trying to make them look nice. Am I missing some mods, perhaps? Edit: Here's an image of my character: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/imageshare/image.php?id=72087 P.S. Even before mods for Skyrim were released (I pre-ordered and pre-loaded the game, and started playing it as soon as it was available) Reguards seemed to look better.