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It appears just dumping everything into a container works also. (so far)

StormWolf your link is the correct one, my mistake for not double checking it. I'm writing these posts on my Mac and did not use Vortex to link back to the correct mod page. I have been taking some time away from Fallout 4 avoiding re-coverting all the esp-esl I did because bethesda changed the esl file to some degree in the november update. So I'm playing Fallout 76 and try out a new build to see if it would work the last week or so. Probably will get back to the grind this week or next.

StormWolf01 I had the same problem and I agree for the most of what you said but when I started using ReSave, I was able to remove some of the corruption. The gamesave I am using I not considering a legitimate playthrough I am just playing to test out mods. But once I get everything working and stable, then I will play without cheating other than geting through bethesda's screw ups. I had to restart from the beginning at least a dozen times before I finally put that procedure together. So yes tinkering with the mods will definitely cause corruption. But ReSave does help, try it out let me know what you think. ReSave link: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/? I consider myself a true amator gamer in all of this. But I have been using computers since the TRS-80 and keypunch. Oh' another thing I found out with this testing, you need to start with min number of mods because of issues with quest starting or not progressing properly because of some conflict. So this is why I am posting this, in hopes that I can create a list of helpful hints that will help people.

An infinite load screen could indicate a corrupted file. If you are having issues with corrupted saves and/or CTD because corrupted saves. You can check to see if the save is corrupted and possibly fixing it with "ReSave". ReSave is on the Nexus, a must have app. ReSave: Link: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/76776/?tab=files Another indication of corruption, your file size is smaller than your previous hard saves. Not auto saves or quick saves they are always bigger than hard saves Check the flies with ReSave and delete all corrupted files. Note: make sure you close and open ReSave before each file checked. It appears that if a file is loaded everything else it checks says they are corrupted even when they are not. Delete or move to another folder all the saves except the last few uncorrupted saves. Check your HD space to, make sure it’s not getting low on memory it will effect your saves if it is low. If you can afford it, use another drive to keep the primary drive as small as possible. This could be related the number of saves in the folder. (If needed) Clean save with ReSave, Save as; Cleaned### (### is the save number) 1. Open the last good save or the one you just cleaned. 2. Once in Game reload the same save again. 3. Once again back in game, Save. 4. Go to 3rd Person. 5. Open Console; Select your character and type kill. 6. Once back in game save and continue playing. Why this works I have no idea. I found all of this online and I combined several of them into this little procedure. I have been using this procedure for several weeks and it has been working great for me. I have been testing mods a lot the last several months and have corrupted the game saves at times, to a point, that I would have to start a new game every two or three weeks. On top of testing mods to see if I liked them or not I wanted to see how many I could install before the game hard crashed. Right now I’m hovering around 600, and my save just short of 60mb and at level 22. The procedures described above have kept me from having to start the game over; so far, it’s been about seven weeks, so far. Other Discoveries/Tips: When leaving the new Virtual Workshop my camera view got stuck above my char, couldn’t move. To fix I found by typing tfc in console, which I could still use, then aim my weapon, I would be back to normal view. I could not duplicate the bug at all after that time. It seemed that leaving the pod put me in some kind of Partial Free Cam and when I typed in tfc it place my view looking up from the floor at my character and I could still move the character but once I aimed my gun I went back to normal first person. Just weird or Bethesda being Bethesda. FPS: Low fps, first try restarting or shutdown the computer and then restart the game. If you are using F4SE start steam first (if you are using it) before you start the game. If you do not understand something let me know and I will try rewriting it so it can be understood. Also any additional insights, tips, settings, etc. let me know. I would like to add them to my list. Update: Additional Tips/Observations: - You need to start a playthrough with min number of mods because there are issues with some quest starting or not progressing properly because of some mod conflicts. Once out of the vault then activate on all the mods. I'm using Vortex, it's good, I set up a separate profile for starting and then just changed the profile the first chance out of the vault then continue playing. - [stormWolf01] One thing that can corrupt your saves is trying out mods, and then uninstalling them. The scripts from those mods are still baked into your savegames. See StomWolf01 comments for further suggestions.

My count at present is esl 253 and esl 328. But I have a Aiienware laptop that is only couple years old with 32gb ram. But I have been hitting corrupted saves day or two. But I have been able to keep adding and play. Here's something that has helped. Ill repost it here. Infinite load screen could indicate a corrupted file. If you are having issues with corrupted saves and/or CTD because corrupted saves. You can check for a corrupted file and possibly fixing it by use ReSave. ReSave is on the Nexus, a must have app. Another indication if the file size if it is smaller than your other hard saves. Not auto saves or quick saves they are always bigger than hard saves Check the flies with ReSave and delete all corrupted files. Note: make sure you close and open ReSave before each file checked. It appears that if a file is loaded everything else it checks says they are corrupted even when not. Delete or move to another folder all saves except the last few uncorrupted saves. (If needed) Clean save with ReSave, Save as; Cleaned### (### is the save number) 1. Open the last good save or the one just cleaned. 2. Once in Game load the same save again. 3. Once again back in game, Save. 4. Go to 3rd Person. 5. Open Console; Select your character and type kill. 6. Once back in game save and continue playing. Why this works I have no idea. I found all of this online and I combined several of them into this little procedure. I have been using this procedure for several weeks and it has been working great for me. I have been testing mods a lot the last several months and have corrupted the game saves at times, to a point, that I would have to start a new game every two or three weeks. On top of testing mods to see if I liked them or not I wanted to see how many I could install before the game hard crashed. Right now I’m hovering around 600, and my save just short of 60mb and at level 22. The procedures described above have kept me from having to start the game over; so far, it’s been about five weeks, so far. Other Discoveries/Tips: When leaving the new Virtual Workshop my camera view got stuck above my char, couldn’t move. To fix I found by typing tfc in console, which I could still use, then aim my weapon, I would be back to normal. I could not duplicate the bug at all after that time. It seamed that leaving the pod put me in some kind of Partial Free Cam and when I typed in tfc it place my view looking up from the floor at my character and I could still move the character but once I aimed my gun I went back to normal first person. Just weird or Bethesda being Bethesda. Low fps, first try restarting or shutdown the computer and then restart the game. If you are using F4SE start steam first (if you are using it) before you start the game. Infinite load screen could indicate a corrupted file. If you are having issues with corrupted saves and/or CTD because corrupted saves. You can check for a corrupted file and possibly fixing it by use ReSave. ReSave is on the Nexus, a must have app. Another indication if the file size if it is smaller than your other hard saves. Not auto saves or quick saves they are always bigger than hard saves Check the flies with ReSave and delete all corrupted files. Note: make sure you close and open ReSave before each file checked. It appears that if a file is loaded everything else it checks says they are corrupted even when not. Delete or move to another folder all saves except the last few uncorrupted saves. (If needed) Clean save with ReSave, Save as; Cleaned### (### is the save number) 1. Open the last good save or the one just cleaned. 2. Once in Game load the same save again. 3. Once again back in game, Save. 4. Go to 3rd Person. 5. Open Console; Select your character and type kill. 6. Once back in game save and continue playing. Why this works I have no idea. I found all of this online and I combined several of them into this little procedure. I have been using this procedure for several weeks and it has been working great for me. I have been testing mods a lot the last several months and have corrupted the game saves at times, to a point, that I would have to start a new game every two or three weeks. On top of testing mods to see if I liked them or not I wanted to see how many I could install before the game hard crashed. Right now I’m hovering around 600, and my save just short of 60mb and at level 22. The procedures described above have kept me from having to start the game over; so far, it’s been about five weeks, so far. Other Discoveries/Tips: When leaving the new Virtual Workshop my camera view got stuck above my char, couldn’t move. To fix I found by typing tfc in console, which I could still use, then aim my weapon, I would be back to normal. I could not duplicate the bug at all after that time. It seamed that leaving the pod put me in some kind of Partial Free Cam and when I typed in tfc it place my view looking up from the floor at my character and I could still move the character but once I aimed my gun I went back to normal first person. Just weird or Bethesda being Bethesda. Low fps, first try restarting or shutdown the computer and then restart the game. If you are using F4SE start steam first (if you are using it) before you start the game.

This may help. Infinite load screen could indicate a corrupted file. If you are having issues with corrupted saves and/or CTD because corrupted saves. You can check for a corrupted file and possibly fixing it by use ReSave. ReSave is on the Nexus, a must have app. Another indication if the file size if it is smaller than your other hard saves. Not auto saves or quick saves they are always bigger than hard saves Check the flies with ReSave and delete all corrupted files. Note: make sure you close and open ReSave before each file checked. It appears that if a file is loaded everything else it checks says they are corrupted even when not. Delete or move to another folder all saves except the last few uncorrupted saves. (If needed) Clean save with ReSave, Save as; Cleaned### (### is the save number) 1. Open the last good save or the one just cleaned. 2. Once in Game load the same save again. 3. Once again back in game, Save. 4. Go to 3rd Person. 5. Open Console; Select your character and type kill. 6. Once back in game save and continue playing. Why this works I have no idea. I found all of this online and I combined several of them into this little procedure. I have been using this procedure for several weeks and it has been working great for me. I have been testing mods a lot the last several months and have corrupted the game saves at times, to a point, that I would have to start a new game every two or three weeks. On top of testing mods to see if I liked them or not I wanted to see how many I could install before the game hard crashed. Right now I’m hovering around 600, and my save just short of 60mb and at level 22. The procedures described above have kept me from having to start the game over; so far, it’s been about five weeks, so far. Other Discoveries/Tips: When leaving the new Virtual Workshop my camera view got stuck above my char, couldn’t move. To fix I found by typing tfc in console, which I could still use, then aim my weapon, I would be back to normal. I could not duplicate the bug at all after that time. It seamed that leaving the pod put me in some kind of Partial Free Cam and when I typed in tfc it place my view looking up from the floor at my character and I could still move the character but once I aimed my gun I went back to normal first person. Just weird or Bethesda being Bethesda. Low fps, first try restarting or shutdown the computer and then restart the game. If you are using F4SE start steam first (if you are using it) before you start the game.

This may help. Infinite load screen could indicate a corrupted file. If you are having issues with corrupted saves and/or CTD because corrupted saves. You can check for a corrupted file and possibly fixing it by use ReSave. ReSave is on the Nexus, a must have app. Another indication if the file size if it is smaller than your other hard saves. Not auto saves or quick saves they are always bigger than hard saves Check the flies with ReSave and delete all corrupted files. Note: make sure you close and open ReSave before each file checked. It appears that if a file is loaded everything else it checks says they are corrupted even when not. Delete or move to another folder all saves except the last few uncorrupted saves. (If needed) Clean save with ReSave, Save as; Cleaned### (### is the save number) 1. Open the last good save or the one just cleaned. 2. Once in Game load the same save again. 3. Once again back in game, Save. 4. Go to 3rd Person. 5. Open Console; Select your character and type kill. 6. Once back in game save and continue playing. Why this works I have no idea. I found all of this online and I combined several of them into this little procedure. I have been using this procedure for several weeks and it has been working great for me. I have been testing mods a lot the last several months and have corrupted the game saves at times, to a point, that I would have to start a new game every two or three weeks. On top of testing mods to see if I liked them or not I wanted to see how many I could install before the game hard crashed. Right now I’m hovering around 600, and my save just short of 60mb and at level 22. The procedures described above have kept me from having to start the game over; so far, it’s been about five weeks, so far. Other Discoveries/Tips: When leaving the new Virtual Workshop my camera view got stuck above my char, couldn’t move. To fix I found by typing tfc in console, which I could still use, then aim my weapon, I would be back to normal. I could not duplicate the bug at all after that time. It seamed that leaving the pod put me in some kind of Partial Free Cam and when I typed in tfc it place my view looking up from the floor at my character and I could still move the character but once I aimed my gun I went back to normal first person. Just weird or Bethesda being Bethesda. Low fps, first try restarting or shutdown the computer and then restart the game. If you are using F4SE start steam first (if you are using it) before you start the game.

This may help. Infinite load screen could indicate a corrupted file. If you are having issues with corrupted saves and/or CTD because corrupted saves. You can check for a corrupted file and possibly fixing it by use ReSave. ReSave is on the Nexus, a must have app. Another indication if the file size if it is smaller than your other hard saves. Not auto saves or quick saves they are always bigger than hard saves Check the flies with ReSave and delete all corrupted files. Note: make sure you close and open ReSave before each file checked. It appears that if a file is loaded everything else it checks says they are corrupted even when not. Delete or move to another folder all saves except the last few uncorrupted saves. (If needed) Clean save with ReSave, Save as; Cleaned### (### is the save number) 1. Open the last good save or the one just cleaned. 2. Once in Game load the same save again. 3. Once again back in game, Save. 4. Go to 3rd Person. 5. Open Console; Select your character and type kill. 6. Once back in game save and continue playing. Why this works I have no idea. I found all of this online and I combined several of them into this little procedure. I have been using this procedure for several weeks and it has been working great for me. I have been testing mods a lot the last several months and have corrupted the game saves at times, to a point, that I would have to start a new game every two or three weeks. On top of testing mods to see if I liked them or not I wanted to see how many I could install before the game hard crashed. Right now I’m hovering around 600, and my save just short of 60mb and at level 22. The procedures described above have kept me from having to start the game over; so far, it’s been about five weeks, so far. Other Discoveries/Tips: When leaving the new Virtual Workshop my camera view got stuck above my char, couldn’t move. To fix I found by typing tfc in console, which I could still use, then aim my weapon, I would be back to normal. I could not duplicate the bug at all after that time. It seamed that leaving the pod put me in some kind of Partial Free Cam and when I typed in tfc it place my view looking up from the floor at my character and I could still move the character but once I aimed my gun I went back to normal first person. Just weird or Bethesda being Bethesda. Low fps, first try restarting or shutdown the computer and then restart the game. If you are using F4SE start steam first (if you are using it) before you start the game.

This may help. Infinite load screen could indicate a corrupted file. If you are having issues with corrupted saves and/or CTD because corrupted saves. You can check for a corrupted file and possibly fixing it by use ReSave. ReSave is on the Nexus, a must have app. Another indication if the file size if it is smaller than your other hard saves. Not auto saves or quick saves they are always bigger than hard saves Check the flies with ReSave and delete all corrupted files. Note: make sure you close and open ReSave before each file checked. It appears that if a file is loaded everything else it checks says they are corrupted even when not. Delete or move to another folder all saves except the last few uncorrupted saves. (If needed) Clean save with ReSave, Save as; Cleaned### (### is the save number) 1. Open the last good save or the one just cleaned. 2. Once in Game load the same save again. 3. Once again back in game, Save. 4. Go to 3rd Person. 5. Open Console; Select your character and type kill. 6. Once back in game save and continue playing. Why this works I have no idea. I found all of this online and I combined several of them into this little procedure. I have been using this procedure for several weeks and it has been working great for me. I have been testing mods a lot the last several months and have corrupted the game saves at times, to a point, that I would have to start a new game every two or three weeks. On top of testing mods to see if I liked them or not I wanted to see how many I could install before the game hard crashed. Right now I’m hovering around 600, and my save just short of 60mb and at level 22. The procedures described above have kept me from having to start the game over; so far, it’s been about five weeks, so far. Other Discoveries/Tips: When leaving the new Virtual Workshop my camera view got stuck above my char, couldn’t move. To fix I found by typing tfc in console, which I could still use, then aim my weapon, I would be back to normal. I could not duplicate the bug at all after that time. It seamed that leaving the pod put me in some kind of Partial Free Cam and when I typed in tfc it place my view looking up from the floor at my character and I could still move the character but once I aimed my gun I went back to normal first person. Just weird or Bethesda being Bethesda. Low fps, first try restarting or shutdown the computer and then restart the game. If you are using F4SE start steam first (if you are using it) before you start the game.

This may help. Infinite load screen could indicate a corrupted file. If you are having issues with corrupted saves and/or CTD because corrupted saves. You can check for a corrupted file and possibly fixing it by use ReSave. ReSave is on the Nexus, a must have app. Another indication if the file size if it is smaller than your other hard saves. Not auto saves or quick saves they are always bigger than hard saves Check the flies with ReSave and delete all corrupted files. Note: make sure you close and open ReSave before each file checked. It appears that if a file is loaded everything else it checks says they are corrupted even when not. Delete or move to another folder all saves except the last few uncorrupted saves. (If needed) Clean save with ReSave, Save as; Cleaned### (### is the save number) 1. Open the last good save or the one just cleaned. 2. Once in Game load the same save again. 3. Once again back in game, Save. 4. Go to 3rd Person. 5. Open Console; Select your character and type kill. 6. Once back in game save and continue playing. Why this works I have no idea. I found all of this online and I combined several of them into this little procedure. I have been using this procedure for several weeks and it has been working great for me. I have been testing mods a lot the last several months and have corrupted the game saves at times, to a point, that I would have to start a new game every two or three weeks. On top of testing mods to see if I liked them or not I wanted to see how many I could install before the game hard crashed. Right now I’m hovering around 600, and my save just short of 60mb and at level 22. The procedures described above have kept me from having to start the game over; so far, it’s been about five weeks, so far. Other Discoveries/Tips: When leaving the new Virtual Workshop my camera view got stuck above my char, couldn’t move. To fix I found by typing tfc in console, which I could still use, then aim my weapon, I would be back to normal. I could not duplicate the bug at all after that time. It seamed that leaving the pod put me in some kind of Partial Free Cam and when I typed in tfc it place my view looking up from the floor at my character and I could still move the character but once I aimed my gun I went back to normal first person. Just weird or Bethesda being Bethesda. Low fps, first try restarting or shutdown the computer and then restart the game. If you are using F4SE start steam first (if you are using it) before you start the game.

This may help. Infinite load screen could indicate a corrupted file. If you are having issues with corrupted saves and/or CTD because corrupted saves. You can check for a corrupted file and possibly fixing it by use ReSave. ReSave is on the Nexus, a must have app. Another indication if the file size if it is smaller than your other hard saves. Not auto saves or quick saves they are always bigger than hard saves Check the flies with ReSave and delete all corrupted files. Note: make sure you close and open ReSave before each file checked. It appears that if a file is loaded everything else it checks says they are corrupted even when not. Delete or move to another folder all saves except the last few uncorrupted saves. (If needed) Clean save with ReSave, Save as; Cleaned### (### is the save number) 1. Open the last good save or the one just cleaned. 2. Once in Game load the same save again. 3. Once again back in game, Save. 4. Go to 3rd Person. 5. Open Console; Select your character and type kill. 6. Once back in game save and continue playing. Why this works I have no idea. I found all of this online and I combined several of them into this little procedure. I have been using this procedure for several weeks and it has been working great for me. I have been testing mods a lot the last several months and have corrupted the game saves at times, to a point, that I would have to start a new game every two or three weeks. On top of testing mods to see if I liked them or not I wanted to see how many I could install before the game hard crashed. Right now I’m hovering around 600, and my save just short of 60mb and at level 22. The procedures described above have kept me from having to start the game over; so far, it’s been about five weeks, so far. Other Discoveries/Tips: When leaving the new Virtual Workshop my camera view got stuck above my char, couldn’t move. To fix I found by typing tfc in console, which I could still use, then aim my weapon, I would be back to normal. I could not duplicate the bug at all after that time. It seamed that leaving the pod put me in some kind of Partial Free Cam and when I typed in tfc it place my view looking up from the floor at my character and I could still move the character but once I aimed my gun I went back to normal first person. Just weird or Bethesda being Bethesda. Low fps, first try restarting or shutdown the computer and then restart the game. If you are using F4SE start steam first (if you are using it) before you start the game.

This may help. Infinite load screen could indicate a corrupted file. If you are having issues with corrupted saves and/or CTD because corrupted saves. You can check for a corrupted file and possibly fixing it by use ReSave. ReSave is on the Nexus, a must have app. Another indication if the file size, if it is smaller than your other hard saves. Not auto saves or quick saves they are always bigger than hard saves Check the flies with ReSave and delete all corrupted files. Note: make sure you close and open ReSave before each file checked. It appears that if a file is loaded everything else it checks says they are corrupted even when not. Delete or move to another folder all saves except the last few uncorrupted saves. (If needed) Clean save with ReSave, Save as; Cleaned### (### is the save number) 1. Open the last good save or the one just cleaned. 2. Once in Game load the same save again. 3. Once again back in game, Save. 4. Go to 3rd Person. 5. Open Console; Select your character and type kill. 6. Once back in game save and continue playing. Why this works I have no idea. I found all of this online and I combined several of them into this little procedure. I have been using this procedure for several weeks and it has been working great for me. I have been testing mods a lot the last several months and have corrupted the game saves at times, to a point, that I would have to start a new game every two or three weeks. On top of testing mods to see if I liked them or not I wanted to see how many I could install before the game hard crashed. Right now I’m hovering around 600, and my save just short of 60mb and at level 22. The procedures described above have kept me from having to start the game over; so far, it’s been about five weeks, so far. Other Discoveries/Tips: When leaving the new Virtual Workshop my camera view got stuck above my char, couldn’t move. To fix I found by typing tfc in console, which I could still use, then aim my weapon, I would be back to normal. I could not duplicate the bug at all after that time. It seamed that leaving the pod put me in some kind of Partial Free Cam and when I typed in tfc it place my view looking up from the floor at my character and I could still move the character but once I aimed my gun I went back to normal first person. Just weird or Bethesda being Bethesda. Low fps, first try restarting or shutdown the computer and then restart the game. If you are using F4SE start steam first (if you are using it) before you start the game.

This may help. Infinite load screen could indicate a corrupted file. If you are having issues with corrupted saves and/or CTD because corrupted saves. You can check for a corrupted file and possibly fixing it by use ReSave. ReSave is on the Nexus, a must have app. Another indication if the file size if it is smaller than your other hard saves. Not auto saves or quick saves they are always bigger than hard saves Check the flies with ReSave and delete all corrupted files. Note: make sure you close and open ReSave before each file checked. It appears that if a file is loaded everything else it checks says they are corrupted even when not. Delete or move to another folder all saves except the last few uncorrupted saves. (If needed) Clean save with ReSave, Save as; Cleaned### (### is the save number) 1. Open the last good save or the one just cleaned. 2. Once in Game load the same save again. 3. Once again back in game, Save. 4. Go to 3rd Person. 5. Open Console; Select your character and type kill. 6. Once back in game save and continue playing. Why this works I have no idea. I found all of this online and I combined several of them into this little procedure. I have been using this procedure for several weeks and it has been working great for me. I have been testing mods a lot the last several months and have corrupted the game saves at times, to a point, that I would have to start a new game every two or three weeks. On top of testing mods to see if I liked them or not I wanted to see how many I could install before the game hard crashed. Right now I’m hovering around 600, and my save just short of 60mb and at level 22. The procedures described above have kept me from having to start the game over; so far, it’s been about five weeks, so far. Other Discoveries/Tips: When leaving the new Virtual Workshop my camera view got stuck above my char, couldn’t move. To fix I found by typing tfc in console, which I could still use, then aim my weapon, I would be back to normal. I could not duplicate the bug at all after that time. It seamed that leaving the pod put me in some kind of Partial Free Cam and when I typed in tfc it place my view looking up from the floor at my character and I could still move the character but once I aimed my gun I went back to normal first person. Just weird or Bethesda being Bethesda. Low fps, first try restarting or shutdown the computer and then restart the game. If you are using F4SE start steam first (if you are using it) before you start the game.

I should have guessed. My Beth grow warts on their colective ass's. That means I will have to redo all 300+ esls.

The title speaks for itself. I have for last few months been playing with converting esp to esl. I had converted a esp for removing jung from animals and it had been working just before the update and suddenly I'm geting armor pieces in Radroaches. I think others may not be working as well which I'm checking now but it will take a time I have 300 plus esl's. So I'm wondering has anyone else noticed it? I could be wrong but I don't think so.

I did not state it but I reactived all my mods aftrer I left the vault. I remember reading something about the vault causing problems a year or so ago but I could not find it. This is the first time I am pushing the limit as how far I can take it. I find some that are not as useful as described or not working properly. As said earlier I'm trying to fix as many bugs and plot holes I can. As I go through the test I will probably find more conflicts and problems so far I haven't gone beyond Concord except to test a mod quickly and then go back to a previous save. But I will eventually have to start a new game because to much tinkering will cause problems as well. AS for Preston someone should make a mod so we can put him in cryo pod only bring him out when you need something. As for stable, it got more stable yesterday because I finally found the problem that kept freezing my game the Read notes on containers and corpuses would freeze the game randomly when using a quick loot window. And the fps issues, who knows, I can start at 7 and a little later is says 200 too 300+ at times. I wonder should I post a log or something on this little experiment?

I had a similar issue that When Freedom Calls would not start. My solution was that I needed to start a new game with min necessary mods. Once started, I didn't re activate them until after codsworth's little quest but it but it should be fine just after you leave the vault. I running over 500 mods right now and I did not want figure out which mod was doing it. My solution works so far. There was an posting long time ago about loading only a min amount of mods before you start a game but I could not find it.

Update (if your interested) Found the the problem, sort of. I still don't know which mod or mods that is caused the problem. After a couple of days testing, I started a fresh game with min mods, When Freedom Calls started in the pip-boy and progressed to Sanctuary normally. One issue I thought was a bug was just was an issue with Knockout Framework I think. Preston was not in the hall way with everyone else when you need to talk to Preston when all the raiders are dead. I could not find him anywhere but I realized my Pip-Boy had not activated tracking the quest when I turned it on the flag showed up on the floor where he normally stands. He was laying on top of the generators unconscious and I could not reach him. Waiting a couple of hours he showed up or should say crawled up. Oh! by the way going to min mods just before you the start of the quest will do nothing you have to start a fresh game. I membered there was discussion once about having mods on when you start a playthrough, but I could not find the discussion online. Thanks for the suggestions and advice they where helpful.

What is a ESPfe?

Hello VIitS could you tell what it means to flag plugins as esl or esm.

Like I said before this is an experment. 1. I wanted to find out what could be converted to esl and still work. I found a few that converts with no errors but does not work. For instrance the Jal.esp the ladder for the workshop. It could be created in the workshop but you could not climb it. 2. I wanted to tinker around with merges to better understand how they work and the best way to used them. Although I read that some merge weapons and armors, I stayed with just the mods with just esp files. 3. Create a world where it was more or less a medival world with little ammo and guns. 4. Create a lot of set dressings to usae as back drop for the possibly a recorded playthrough story telling. Although I am stress testing but my real goal is to load everything I think will be needed and interesting for the story and it's telling. That's why better Location damage and better combat AI are some of the mods I want in it. Also more detail and expanded DC people and dialog. Will I get there? Who knows. But one thing I learned from my reading is that to much tinkering the mods when play the game causes problems. So I want get all the possible mods and if I don't have hard crash, which has not happened yet. Then review start removing unneeded mods which are between a 10 to 50 and working on fixing as many conflicts as possible. Is 600 excessive maybe. But consider this the whirlybirds could be shot down by a sling shot almost. The power armor is almost as bad and you can find one on every block. There is plot wholes like the brotherhood and when they arrive. DC is really underwhelming. Then have all the bugs and glitches that need fixes. When I retired I bought a Alienware laptop 64-bit Intel i7-7700hq core and I maxed out ram to 32 GB. I have been do this experiment the last three months more or less. There only about 20 more mods I think maybe useful. Now back to original question that G4M3W1NN3R asked the number of records under HEDR Header is tricky because CC also flagged as esm & esl, some esp are flagged esl. The CC record count is 1716. The esl record count is 29251. According the creation kit web reference it is 4000 esl files. And from the general discussion around the web when you exceed that you hard crash. Will it interfere with scrips? Good chance. But is that the issue with why the quest When Freedom Calls is not starting. The descriptions I read range from heavily moded to no mods at all. They all agree on one thing the counsel will not work in starting it or in progressing it. Like I said earlier I am not exploring much except around sanctuary to test mods. When I go out further I usually go in god mode. The reason I discovered this was I was checking the mode, no free armor from Museum. I have not checked by turning off all the mods yet, because I'm still testing other mods. Oh! The 65 esl I mentioned was just had not been confirmed as working. Yesterday brought it down to 55. To let you know I exceeded the esp limit by almost 10 but not on purpose. It turns out that sometimes it lets you open the game and play but it does not load all the plugins at the end. It will eventually CTD with interesting results when you back to your save, half the your construction disappears and you have no clothes. It took me little time to figure what happened. Loot showed that the last few esp did not load and ReSaver showed me that there was only 4 esm & esp and 300 esl in my save. I had also forgotten about 0 counting as 1 in programing so the count will show 254 not 255. And if you think I should have more problems the last three months, I did. I would state CTD when I saved. When that happened I would go to just an earlier save or to the vault save. This last time I started all over because some one on line said they solved the problem by starting a new game. Actually StormWolf01 I'm looking forward to see how long it does last, if I ever get all the mods loaded and checked and conflicts resolved. Once that happens no more experimenting, just playing. Sorry for all the rambling.

Beware that I have been just testing for a playthrough. I wanted to find out how many bugs and plot holes and fix. What I can and cannot convert to esl and merge and work. Right now I have hardly left the sanctuary area. The count is a little less than 600 plugins, 244 esp & esm and 310 esl (with 65 not confirmed to be actually working). The setup is create a world that is close to medieval as possible more melee. bows little ammo and few guns. 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The reason I say that it maybe 254 and not 255 is that Loot was showing that when I reached 255 the last plugin on its list showed being deactivated but that Vortex showed it to be active. I discovered it while troubleshooting a problem. The last couple of months I have been experimenting on what can be converted esl and what can not. What can be merged and what can not. Basivaly to see how Much I can stuff in it and still work. Well a long and short of it I found out that the game let me go beyond the 255 limet without even a warning. It went to 260'sh. I first thought that the game had got corrupted after so many mod changes. I've had to restart plays at least 5 times over the last two months. Anyways a couple days it CTD which it does time to time but when I when I went I went back in I had lost all my clothes and weapons with half the construction in Sanctuary was missing. Sense it was late I decided to reload the game. The nest day I checked the saves using Resaver by Mark Fairchild, it is a GREAT program save me a lot of time. Any way it showed that instead of around 255 esp & esm's it showed 4 that's right 4. The esl count was 295 which was right but they were saved which is probably why half my stuff still showed up when I went back in the game. I think I figured out that the game was loading the mods but it would not save anything or half anything that was done in game. You could save and with no problem until you checked the save in ReSave. I duplicated the problem easily after realized what had happened. A couple plugins did not get deleted when I removed them earlier, that's the problems with Vortex not deleting plugins all the time. But it also helped with how it tracks plugins by installation time. I played again with 254 esp & esm and 295 esl with no problem. The Long and short be careful when geting around the max plugins the game may not warn you and you could spend hours in it thinking you saved when you did not.

When Freedom Calls will not start in pip-boy but the dialog moves along as it should but Priston then is stuck on the balcony. This is the second time it has happened. Last time Momma Murphy did not even show up. Does anyone now how get it to start in the pip-boy. Setstage does not seem to work. Completequest works but they are still in the museum. If anyone has heard of a mode that gives this quest a problem let me know. This is not real playthrough I'm just testing out mods at the present to set up my next playthrough.