k thanks for the advice, ill move the climates esp to the bottom and see if it works. Good to know that it is the mod order rather then technical issues, corrupted files, or mission files. Thanks for the help and suggestions -Just tried to load skyrim now with the new places and home mods, and skyrim now CTD as soon as i load the save from the title screen Edit: I check which mod exactly was causing the CTD and it was 'Vortai the Home in the sky'. Dont know why its causing the CTD but it was the main one i wanted to keep. I guess ill look for another one and remove Vortai.