NoireWidow

I've had this twice on my playthrough. First time I fixed it by switching my face to a different one, (via presets). The second time I fixed it by saving and then loading that save. Be mindful that sometimes quicksaving and quickload can mess up the face again. I believe it is due to a 'lack of memory' bug. Which I have yet to understand, because people like me have more ram and Vram that we could ever use, and yet it happens. I hope someone can provide a more detailed explanation, but figured I'd share my own results. Good luck to you.

Doubt this will use TexMod. It's the same Engine as Inquisition, so we will probably see the whole fake patch system applied to this game as well. Haven't played Inquisition, but I imagine "fake patch system" is one of those things where you need to update it every time the developer updates the game? Correct. Basically in order to mod the game, you have to add the new files as if it were a patch from BioWare. With that however, came some issues. You couldn't go certain places with mods on. Some cutscenes caused CTD. Etc. People were saying this time around it should be faster/easier for the modding community, but I don't think that's the case. Either that or there's less interest in modding MEA. Originally yes, but later on the DAIMod Maker Team learned how to separate the Mod patch. Now you can update the game, through Origin, without touching your mods, I suspect MEA will start that way, due to lessons learnt. I doubt there's any less interest, indeed, more thing to fix, is likely to insopire more to mod, not less, but first the tool makers need to get that working, and that likely won't be any quicker I hope that's the case. Would make things interesting to say the least.

The inquisition modding scene prospered after a while, and some fantastic mods did come out. However it will be within that same vein I suspect. I hope I am wrong, and we see texture overhauls like we did for ME 1 and 2. Though BioWare did a great job with environments, armors, and objects. It's the NPC and the PC that need help, badly.

Doubt this will use TexMod. It's the same Engine as Inquisition, so we will probably see the whole fake patch system applied to this game as well. Haven't played Inquisition, but I imagine "fake patch system" is one of those things where you need to update it every time the developer updates the game? Correct. Basically in order to mod the game, you have to add the new files as if it were a patch from BioWare. With that however, came some issues. You couldn't go certain places with mods on. Some cutscenes caused CTD. Etc. People were saying this time around it should be faster/easier for the modding community, but I don't think that's the case. Either that or there's less interest in modding MEA.

Doubt this will use TexMod. It's the same Engine as Inquisition, so we will probably see the whole fake patch system applied to this game as well.

Just to reference this. Very soon after my last post, I did just this. Fixed the issue for me, and have had no problems since. I don't know what caused it to this day, but reinstalling the game, and only installing mods that I was 100% sure would work on SSE fixed my issue.

Started a new game, with the same mods, crashed on the same spot. Unchecked every single esp, one by one, still crashed on the same location. Orphan rock exterior.

They are all from the SSE Nexus, and claim to be compatible with Skyrim SE. The only one that isn't, Apachii Hair, is widely claimed to be working fully with SSE. I will try a very early save, and spawn there, see if it works. Edit: Went back to an earlier save, tried COC orphanrockexterior02, CTD. I will try a new game later on, see if that's an issue as well.

Since yesterday afternoon I've been getting a CTD as I try to go into Orphan Rock to obtain Nettlebane. It seems to be right around the area where the Hagraven and camped witches are. The road right in front, the Stormcloak camp, Helgen, Bandit camp to the North West, no problems. Just that small area where the Hagraven is. I have tried to disable some ESPs to see if the problem persists, but to no avail. Any Assistance would be greatly appreciated! :smile: Current Mod List: (All mods are at their current latest version and claim to be supported for, or gotten from SSE Nexus) LOOT Version 0.10.1 (build d8f8dc4) for SSE was used for the load order. GameMode=SkyrimSE Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp=1 ApachiiHair.esm=1 Cutting Room Floor.esp=1 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1 BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1 TLE Recommended.esp=1 CLARALUX - SSE.esp=1 Verdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin SSE Version.esp=1 WICO - Immersive People.esp=1 WICO - USSEP Compatible Patch.esp=1 Original Opening Scene.esp=1 Point The Way.esp=1 Immersive Patrols II.esp=1 Eli_Breezehome.esp=1 SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp=1 WeightLessTrueAll.esp=1 SofiaFollower.esp=1 ForgottenCity.esp=1 CRF - ShieldSpellFXS Restore.esp=1 Blacksmith Forge Water Fix SE USSEP.esp=1 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1 gifts of akatosh.esp=1 Map Markers Complete DLC.esp=1 DJGODMODERING.esp=1 Water Special Edition.esp=1 HarvestOverhaul_Redone.esp=1 Tanning And Smelting Experience.esp=1 Simple AUA.esp=1 BetterArchmagesRobes.esp=1 DragonBoneEbonsteel.esp=1 KS_Hairdo's_Lite.esp=1 TrueBrows.esp=1 True Eyes SE desaturated.esp=1 BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp=1 YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp=1 Realistic-Voice.esp=1 WICO - Immersive Character.esp=1 WICO - Wild Hunt Gears.esp=1 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp=1 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp=1 RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp=1 Latest Papyrus log, at the point of CTD: [11/14/2016 - 12:28:05AM] Papyrus log opened (PC) [11/14/2016 - 12:28:05AM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 2000.000000ms) [11/14/2016 - 12:28:05AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 153600 (max total) [11/14/2016 - 12:28:07AM] Cannot open store for class "DLC1TestPhilAtronach", missing file? [11/14/2016 - 12:28:08AM] Cannot open store for class "betterstealthai_main", missing file? [11/14/2016 - 12:28:08AM] Cannot open store for class "SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias", missing file? [11/14/2016 - 12:28:08AM] Cannot open store for class "SKI_ConfigBase", missing file? [11/14/2016 - 12:28:08AM] Error: Unable to link "SKI_ConfigBase" - the parent of "TweakMCMScript". [11/14/2016 - 12:28:08AM] Error: Failed to find variable ::Pages_var used in TweakMCMScript.OnConfigInit() [11/14/2016 - 12:28:08AM] Error: Failed to find variable ::Pages_var used in TweakMCMScript.OnConfigInit() [11/14/2016 - 12:28:08AM] Error: Failed to find variable ::Pages_var used in TweakMCMScript.OnPageReset() [11/14/2016 - 12:28:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script TweakMCMScript to TweakMCM (0B06661B) because their base types do not match [11/14/2016 - 12:28:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script traptriggerbase to TweakTraps (0B00C515) because their base types do not match [11/14/2016 - 12:28:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script TrapBear to TweakTraps (0B00C515) because their base types do not match [11/14/2016 - 12:28:08AM] Cannot open store for class "SF_TweakP1Pose_02017788", missing file? [11/14/2016 - 12:28:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script SF_TweakP1Pose_02017788 to (0B017788) because their base types do not match [11/14/2016 - 12:28:08AM] Cannot open store for class "SF_TweakP1Hangout_02017201", missing file? [11/14/2016 - 12:28:08AM] Error: Unable to bind script SF_TweakP1Hangout_02017201 to (0B017201) because their base types do not match [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Error: Unable to bind script SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias to alias Player on quest TweakMCM (0B06661B) because their base types do not match [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property CombatClassIndex on script SofiaReloadScripts attached to alias PlayerRef on quest JJSofiaGetHasSKSE (1700E5FE) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property SofiaCombatStyles on script SofiaReloadScripts attached to alias PlayerRef on quest JJSofiaGetHasSKSE (1700E5FE) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property SofiaHasSKSE on script SofiaReloadScripts attached to alias PlayerRef on quest JJSofiaGetHasSKSE (1700E5FE) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property CombatStyleIndex on script SofiaReloadScripts attached to alias PlayerRef on quest JJSofiaGetHasSKSE (1700E5FE) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property SofiaCombatClass on script SofiaReloadScripts attached to alias PlayerRef on quest JJSofiaGetHasSKSE (1700E5FE) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Error: Property SofiaOutfitScript on script SofiaClothingFix attached to alias SofiaRef on quest JJSofiaClothingFix (1704BAE3) cannot be bound because alias SofiaClothesStore on quest JJSofiaWardrobe (17061F70) is not the right type [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property FCQuest01 on script FCStartQuest attached to alias Note on quest 000FCQuest01 (18012BB9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property Alias_USKPTGTQ04Location on script QF_TGTQ04_000799E2 attached to TGTQ04 (000799E2) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property USKPUtteringHillsReservation on script QF_TGTQ04_000799E2 attached to TGTQ04 (000799E2) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Error: Property LackMessage on script AATreasureArmorScript attached to (1403E248) cannot be bound because <nullptr form> (1403C770) is not the right type [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property MUSJudgment on script FCSunRotates attached to (180AD741) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property CenturionMusic on script FCSunRotates attached to (180AD741) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property UlrinScene on script FCSunRotates attached to (180AD741) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property Alias_ImperialCaptainPie on script QF_MQ101DragonAttack_000D0593 attached to MQ101DragonAttack (000D0593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property Alias_ImperialCaptain on script QF_MQ101DragonAttack_000D0593 attached to MQ101DragonAttack (000D0593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Error: Property TreeSapSpigot on script usleepretroactive307script attached to USLEEPRetroactive307 (0514EB3D) cannot be bound because <nullptr form> (000AED8B) is not the right type [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Error: Property TweakCarryWeight on script tweakfollowerscript attached to TweakFollower (0B0012CE) cannot be initialized because the value is the incorrect type [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property CaeliaShoes on script FCBathOutfitChangeScript attached to (1805D1B3) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property Caelia on script FCBathOutfitChangeScript attached to (1805D1B3) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property CaeliaDress on script FCBathOutfitChangeScript attached to (1805D1B3) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property BrolQuest on script FCPalaceEntryTriggerScript attached to (18093739) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Warning: Property TweakOriginalEssentialFaction on script TweakFixBoethiah attached to (00083041) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] VM is freezing... [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] VM is frozen [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Reverting game... [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Error: Unable to bind script traptriggerbase to TweakTraps (0B00C515) because their base types do not match [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Error: Unable to bind script TrapBear to TweakTraps (0B00C515) because their base types do not match [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Error: Unable to bind script SF_TweakP1Hangout_02017201 to (0B017201) because their base types do not match [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Error: Unable to bind script SF_TweakP1Pose_02017788 to (0B017788) because their base types do not match [11/14/2016 - 12:28:21AM] Error: Unable to bind script TweakMCMScript to TweakMCM (0B06661B) because their base types do not match [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Loading game... [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Error: Unable to bind script SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias to alias Player on quest TweakMCM (0B06661B) because their base types do not match [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property Alias_USKPTGTQ04Location on script QF_TGTQ04_000799E2 attached to TGTQ04 (000799E2) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property USKPUtteringHillsReservation on script QF_TGTQ04_000799E2 attached to TGTQ04 (000799E2) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Error: Property LackMessage on script AATreasureArmorScript attached to (1403E248) cannot be bound because <nullptr form> (1403C770) is not the right type [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property CombatClassIndex on script SofiaReloadScripts attached to alias PlayerRef on quest JJSofiaGetHasSKSE (1700E5FE) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property SofiaCombatStyles on script SofiaReloadScripts attached to alias PlayerRef on quest JJSofiaGetHasSKSE (1700E5FE) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property SofiaHasSKSE on script SofiaReloadScripts attached to alias PlayerRef on quest JJSofiaGetHasSKSE (1700E5FE) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property CombatStyleIndex on script SofiaReloadScripts attached to alias PlayerRef on quest JJSofiaGetHasSKSE (1700E5FE) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property SofiaCombatClass on script SofiaReloadScripts attached to alias PlayerRef on quest JJSofiaGetHasSKSE (1700E5FE) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property CaeliaShoes on script FCBathOutfitChangeScript attached to (1805D1B3) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property Caelia on script FCBathOutfitChangeScript attached to (1805D1B3) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property CaeliaDress on script FCBathOutfitChangeScript attached to (1805D1B3) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property FCQuest01 on script FCStartQuest attached to alias Note on quest 000FCQuest01 (18012BB9) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property MUSJudgment on script FCSunRotates attached to (180AD741) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property CenturionMusic on script FCSunRotates attached to (180AD741) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property UlrinScene on script FCSunRotates attached to (180AD741) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property Alias_ImperialCaptainPie on script QF_MQ101DragonAttack_000D0593 attached to MQ101DragonAttack (000D0593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property Alias_ImperialCaptain on script QF_MQ101DragonAttack_000D0593 attached to MQ101DragonAttack (000D0593) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Error: Property TreeSapSpigot on script usleepretroactive307script attached to USLEEPRetroactive307 (0514EB3D) cannot be bound because <nullptr form> (000AED8B) is not the right type [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property TweakOriginalEssentialFaction on script TweakFixBoethiah attached to (00083041) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Error: Property TweakCarryWeight on script tweakfollowerscript attached to TweakFollower (0B0012CE) cannot be initialized because the value is the incorrect type [11/14/2016 - 12:28:31AM] Warning: Property BrolQuest on script FCPalaceEntryTriggerScript attached to (18093739) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [11/14/2016 - 12:28:32AM] Cannot open store for class "QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF", missing file? [11/14/2016 - 12:28:32AM] Warning: Unable to get type QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded. [11/14/2016 - 12:28:32AM] Warning: Could not find type QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF in the type table in save [11/14/2016 - 12:28:32AM] VM is thawing... [11/14/2016 - 12:28:32AM] Error: File "Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [USLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.ProcessRetroScripts() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.psc" Line 26 [alias Player on quest USLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.psc" Line 6 [11/14/2016 - 12:28:32AM] Error: File "Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [USLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.ProcessRetroScripts() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.psc" Line 30 [alias Player on quest USLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.psc" Line 6 [11/14/2016 - 12:28:32AM] Error: File "Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [USLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.ProcessRetroScripts() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.psc" Line 34 [alias Player on quest USLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.psc" Line 6 [11/14/2016 - 12:28:32AM] Error: File "Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [USLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.ProcessRetroScripts() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.psc" Line 38 [alias Player on quest USLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.psc" Line 6 [11/14/2016 - 12:28:32AM] Error: File "Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded. stack: <unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ? [USLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.ProcessRetroScripts() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingScript.psc" Line 42 [alias Player on quest USLEEPVersionTracking (0500F458)].USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "USLEEP_VersionTrackingAliasScript.psc" Line 6 [11/14/2016 - 12:29:03AM] VM is freezing... [11/14/2016 - 12:29:03AM] VM is frozen [11/14/2016 - 12:29:03AM] Saving game... [11/14/2016 - 12:29:03AM] VM is thawing...

Still nothing, I guess we just have to get used to it at this point. Bummer though. :(

Hasn't been fixed yet, it seems.

I thought I was the only one, same issue. On the forums it works fine, but on all the other game nexus sites it's the old one. Cache/cookies deletion did not work.

"PS. Disregard Resolution, I use a different program to handle that." It's a bug, I use Nvidia GeForce Experience to optimize some settings, and the resolution on my LED HDTV is not recognized by the game launcher for some reason, so NGE forces it, or I do via the SkyrimPrefs.ini

He means AF, whether from the game launcher http://i.imgur.com/5TyuVVP.png, an ENB, or Nvidia Control Panel. However it's a silly suggestion as I've had it on x16 the entire time, and it doesn't fix our particular problem. PS. Disregard Resolution, I use a different program to handle that.

I'm having the exact same issue. I even posted about it in the SFO thread. I was really hoping someone knew the solution. =[