[Fallout 4 Creation Kit Beta and an Important Notice to Survival Testers]

In response to post #37209485.

bben46 wrote:

Here is what I did to get my game to work.

 

My FO4 with about 50 or so mods was working fine with the older version.

 

First I use the NMM profiles, so I have a current working profile saved ( for all of the people that screamed about being forced to use profiles, That is one of the reasons for having profiles in NMM, so you will have a current backup copy at all times)

 

I was NOT using any beta versions of FO4 and not using the CK yet.

 

After allowing the new Bethesda update, I first started the game through the steam launcher. I think this allows the game to replace your existing ini with a new copy (yes, if it does replace, it does remove any custom settings you had, but you did back those up didn’t you?) It crashed. But I think the ini were replaced which was part of the reason for starting with the steam launcher.

 

I went into NMM and imported my existing profile. It only activated about a quarter of my mods.

 

I used the NMM to activate the rest. Then tried to run - The first time it informed me my F4SE was out of date and told me to update it then exited

 

I went to the F4SE site and installed the beta version they have for the new version.

 

I tried to start using the NMM F4SE launcher. it crashed. I went back to NMM and it had disabled the same set of mods as before. After enabling them, I went to the plugins.txt and found it had lost it's read only - so I reset that.

 

This time it didn't disable most mods, but still crashed.

 

I disabled DEF-UI and another UI mod - It worked. EVERY mod except those related to the UI were there.

 

I looked on the DEF-UI mod on nexus mods and saw there was already an update. I updated it and also found an update for the other UI mod ( don't remember right off what it was) and tested - it worked.

 

Since then I have added another mod using NMM and it still worked.

 

I think the way the NMM is supposed to handle plugins,txt is to disable read only when you tell it to, then re-enable read only when it exits NMM. - set your NMM to close when you start the game.

 

I have not made any changes to the default ini yet.

 

For the kiddies that scream they shouldn't have to do all of this that it should just work. Welcome to modding. That is the way it has always been. A few years ago there was no mod manager, no LOOT and no simple instructions on how to get mods to work. Modding was a geek exclusive activity and if you were not willing to put in the time and effort to learn to be a geek you just didn't use mods because you couldn't. Today you have it easy with the specialized knowledge of those geeks who wrote the tutorials, created the Managers and created the third party tools like LOOT. Unfortunately, using mods is still not plug and play. But we are getting closer. :thumbsup:

 

Since my computer died this morning with a bad Motherboard ( not related to games, Beth, Steam or Nexus at all) I will not be able to work on any more help for a week or so. This is being posted on a non gaming capable and slow older Linux Laptop. :rolleyes:

Bumped. Take a look at all solutions, no matter how insignificant. Could be a combo of things, or something simple yet elusive. and PLEASE post about it if you do solve it, even if you dont think it will help; 10 thousand+ others might.

[Fallout 4 Creation Kit Beta and an Important Notice to Survival Testers]

When is the next NMM update.. Keeps asking me to remove lines from my ini. Same lines that we need now.

 

[Fallout 4 Creation Kit Beta and an Important Notice to Survival Testers]

In response to post #37145435. #37145555, #37145640, #37145740, #37145810, #37146130, #37146205, #37146585, #37146990, #37147025, #37147070, #37147180, #37148615, #37148775 are all replies on the same post.

MechaReptar wrote: CTD on loading saves after updating. Disabled all mods, CTD as soon as menu loads. reset Ini, CTD. Verified files, CTD. Removed F4SE, CTD. Unistalling now, will see if it still does after I reinstall.

misshalcyon wrote: I am having this same issue. It even CTD's if I click New Game and I can't understand why. Have you managed to figure out what's causing yours?

MechaReptar wrote: Not yet. Still reinstalling, I have the same problem with new games too. Are you using ENBoost, Reshader, or SweetFX?

misshalcyon wrote: I was using an ENB with SweetFX but I uninstalled it a couple of days ago, didn't have any issues after doing so either. I'm going to attempt a fix that someone posted just now, and see if that works. If not, then I'm completely confused.

MechaReptar wrote: Please let me know if it works, I dont use DEF_UI, but at this point im willing to do some black magic.

misshalcyon wrote: Sadly no, the method didn't work for me. I've tried pretty much everything, short of uninstalling and reinstalling the game from scratch. I would like to avoid that, but it's looking like I might have to.

MechaReptar wrote: I'll let you know how it goes for me. Maybe save you the hassle. Hoping I find something elsewhere that with help also.

soulgamers wrote: Hi
Try what MajorDick and Outlander3734 said
in the post just below this run. all mods are now work for me. and no more CTD.
:yes: :thumbsup:
I also are using SweetFX and all are working.


i'll just add, thank god for those who know what they are doing. I'll not login to Steam any more. . I usually play offline.

zogthemighty wrote: Same problem here. Can't start new game, old save or anything. Deleted everything and reinstalled through steam, still no joy.

MechaReptar wrote: @soulgamers Tried Major's first; didn't want to reset everything in the beginning. Then went on to disabling mods and regenerating new ini's. Got frustrated and verified files and removing F04SE, then reinstalling. I am nowhere near an expert on these things, and this one has me stumped. I dont use Def_UI, but was willing to try til Misshalcyon told me it wasnt working for her either.

MechaReptar wrote: @Zogthemighty Did you delete the entire F04 folder, reinstall, and it still doesnt work? Ini's too? sorry, just trying to get a lot of info

misshalcyon wrote: So I've tested both MajorDick and Outlander3734's fixes, didn't work for me. I've tried logging into the Bethesda.net Mod menu, verified files, and basically run through the check-list of usual fixes, and still crashing on loading a save or clicking New Game. I'm honestly wondering if a full uninstall/reinstall is my only option, and if so, I am not looking forward to that.

soulgamers wrote: Hi misshalcyon

It didn't work for me .. . untill I updated NMM, just after trying those out.

It then worked, to my amazement. and now I'm still playing the game from where I left off.
from my last save.

I didn't wan't to delet anything and didn't. and i'm so glad that I didn't.
but everything is now working for me.
and I have so many Bat files in the fallout 4 main folder.
I was thinking sould I delet those, but I didn't have too.
All I did was as they said to do.
hey! I have 131 mods all turned on. and now all of them works.
MY GAME IS SAVED FROM DISASTER. thanks to following what they said.

Rioplats wrote: I found out that currently any non updated UI mods such as Pleasant UI cause CTDs on loading saves. Uninstalling them seemed to do the trick. I don't think simply disabling them works; the files regarding the UI have to be removed from the Fallout 4 folder.
If not that, then other mods which edit the base game files may be the problem. I'm not sure if that extends to string edits such as Full Dialogue. Esps which only add content shouldn't be at fault.

@Misshalcyon
After reinstalling, I added every mod back, ran NMM, deleted the Archive section from the Fallout4Custom ini, add the STRING\, ... (Like Major said), and I seem to have solved it. Not anything i didn't do before, except reinstalling. CTD on menu stopped after deleting the Archive section. I didn't reinstall Creation Kit, but i doubt that was it either. Gonna try my saves on survival (it bumped me to Very Hard) and test. I'll let you know if i run into anything else.

Im also using my old Fallout4.ini and FalloutPrefs.ini with the added String line.

[Fallout 4 Creation Kit Beta and an Important Notice to Survival Testers]

In response to post #37145435. #37145555, #37145640, #37145740, #37145810, #37146130, #37146205, #37146585, #37146990, #37147025 are all replies on the same post.

MechaReptar wrote: CTD on loading saves after updating. Disabled all mods, CTD as soon as menu loads. reset Ini, CTD. Verified files, CTD. Removed F4SE, CTD. Unistalling now, will see if it still does after I reinstall.

misshalcyon wrote: I am having this same issue. It even CTD's if I click New Game and I can't understand why. Have you managed to figure out what's causing yours?

MechaReptar wrote: Not yet. Still reinstalling, I have the same problem with new games too. Are you using ENBoost, Reshader, or SweetFX?

misshalcyon wrote: I was using an ENB with SweetFX but I uninstalled it a couple of days ago, didn't have any issues after doing so either. I'm going to attempt a fix that someone posted just now, and see if that works. If not, then I'm completely confused.

MechaReptar wrote: Please let me know if it works, I dont use DEF_UI, but at this point im willing to do some black magic.

misshalcyon wrote: Sadly no, the method didn't work for me. I've tried pretty much everything, short of uninstalling and reinstalling the game from scratch. I would like to avoid that, but it's looking like I might have to.

MechaReptar wrote: I'll let you know how it goes for me. Maybe save you the hassle. Hoping I find something elsewhere that with help also.

soulgamers wrote: Hi
Try what MajorDick and Outlander3734 said
in the post just below this run. all mods are now work for me. and no more CTD.
:yes: :thumbsup:
I also are using SweetFX and all are working.


i'll just add, thank god for those who know what they are doing. I'll not login to Steam any more. . I usually play offline.

zogthemighty wrote: Same problem here. Can't start new game, old save or anything. Deleted everything and reinstalled through steam, still no joy.

MechaReptar wrote: @soulgamers Tried Major's first; didn't want to reset everything in the beginning. Then went on to disabling mods and regenerating new ini's. Got frustrated and verified files and removing F04SE, then reinstalling. I am nowhere near an expert on these things, and this one has me stumped. I dont use Def_UI, but was willing to try til Misshalcyon told me it wasnt working for her either.

@Zogthemighty Did you delete the entire F04 folder, reinstall, and it still doesnt work? Ini's too? sorry, just trying to get alot of info

[Fallout 4 Creation Kit Beta and an Important Notice to Survival Testers]

In response to post #37145435. #37145555, #37145640, #37145740, #37145810, #37146130, #37146205, #37146585, #37146990 are all replies on the same post.

MechaReptar wrote: CTD on loading saves after updating. Disabled all mods, CTD as soon as menu loads. reset Ini, CTD. Verified files, CTD. Removed F4SE, CTD. Unistalling now, will see if it still does after I reinstall.

misshalcyon wrote: I am having this same issue. It even CTD's if I click New Game and I can't understand why. Have you managed to figure out what's causing yours?

MechaReptar wrote: Not yet. Still reinstalling, I have the same problem with new games too. Are you using ENBoost, Reshader, or SweetFX?

misshalcyon wrote: I was using an ENB with SweetFX but I uninstalled it a couple of days ago, didn't have any issues after doing so either. I'm going to attempt a fix that someone posted just now, and see if that works. If not, then I'm completely confused.

MechaReptar wrote: Please let me know if it works, I dont use DEF_UI, but at this point im willing to do some black magic.

misshalcyon wrote: Sadly no, the method didn't work for me. I've tried pretty much everything, short of uninstalling and reinstalling the game from scratch. I would like to avoid that, but it's looking like I might have to.

MechaReptar wrote: I'll let you know how it goes for me. Maybe save you the hassle. Hoping I find something elsewhere that with help also.

soulgamers wrote: Hi
Try what MajorDick and Outlander3734 said
in the post just below this run. all mods are now work for me. and no more CTD.
:yes: :thumbsup:
I also are using SweetFX and all are working.


i'll just add, thank god for those who know what they are doing. I'll not login to Steam any more. . I usually play offline.

zogthemighty wrote: Same problem here. Can't start new game, old save or anything. Deleted everything and reinstalled through steam, still no joy.

@soulgamers Tried Major's first; didn't want to reset everything in the beginning. Then went on to disabling mods and regenerating new ini's. Got frustrated and verified files and removing F04SE, then reinstalling. I am nowhere near an expert on these things, and this one has me stumped. I dont use Def_UI, but was willing to try til Misshalcyon told me it wasnt working for her either.

[Fallout 4 Creation Kit Beta and an Important Notice to Survival Testers]

In response to post #37145435. #37145555, #37145640, #37145740, #37145810, #37146130 are all replies on the same post.

MechaReptar wrote: CTD on loading saves after updating. Disabled all mods, CTD as soon as menu loads. reset Ini, CTD. Verified files, CTD. Removed F4SE, CTD. Unistalling now, will see if it still does after I reinstall.

misshalcyon wrote: I am having this same issue. It even CTD's if I click New Game and I can't understand why. Have you managed to figure out what's causing yours?

MechaReptar wrote: Not yet. Still reinstalling, I have the same problem with new games too. Are you using ENBoost, Reshader, or SweetFX?

misshalcyon wrote: I was using an ENB with SweetFX but I uninstalled it a couple of days ago, didn't have any issues after doing so either. I'm going to attempt a fix that someone posted just now, and see if that works. If not, then I'm completely confused.

MechaReptar wrote: Please let me know if it works, I dont use DEF_UI, but at this point im willing to do some black magic.

misshalcyon wrote: Sadly no, the method didn't work for me. I've tried pretty much everything, short of uninstalling and reinstalling the game from scratch. I would like to avoid that, but it's looking like I might have to.

I'll let you know how it goes for me. Maybe save you the hassle. Hoping I find something elsewhere that with help also.

[Fallout 4 Creation Kit Beta and an Important Notice to Survival Testers]

In response to post #37145435. #37145555, #37145640, #37145740 are all replies on the same post.

MechaReptar wrote: CTD on loading saves after updating. Disabled all mods, CTD as soon as menu loads. reset Ini, CTD. Verified files, CTD. Removed F4SE, CTD. Unistalling now, will see if it still does after I reinstall.

misshalcyon wrote: I am having this same issue. It even CTD's if I click New Game and I can't understand why. Have you managed to figure out what's causing yours?

MechaReptar wrote: Not yet. Still reinstalling, I have the same problem with new games too. Are you using ENBoost, Reshader, or SweetFX?

misshalcyon wrote: I was using an ENB with SweetFX but I uninstalled it a couple of days ago, didn't have any issues after doing so either. I'm going to attempt a fix that someone posted just now, and see if that works. If not, then I'm completely confused.

Please let me know if it works, I dont use DEF_UI, but at this point im willing to do some black magic.

[Fallout 4 Creation Kit Beta and an Important Notice to Survival Testers]

In response to post #37145435. #37145555 is also a reply to the same post.

MechaReptar wrote: CTD on loading saves after updating. Disabled all mods, CTD as soon as menu loads. reset Ini, CTD. Verified files, CTD. Removed F4SE, CTD. Unistalling now, will see if it still does after I reinstall.

misshalcyon wrote: I am having this same issue. It even CTD's if I click New Game and I can't understand why. Have you managed to figure out what's causing yours?

Not yet. Still reinstalling, I have the same problem with new games too. Are you using ENBoost, Reshader, or SweetFX?

[Fallout 4 Creation Kit Beta and an Important Notice to Survival Testers]

CTD on loading saves after updating. Disabled all mods, CTD as soon as menu loads. reset Ini, CTD. Verified files, CTD. Removed F4SE, CTD. Unistalling now, will see if it still does after I reinstall.