i was so happy when i saw the new patch today i let it download and lo and behold NO MORE CTD'S (for me anyway) but then the first time i got into a sword fight first attack the killmove that gets the enemy from behind the one that grabs the left shoulder and then you ram your sword through their torso started i hit them they survived i hit it again same thing and so on and so forth this is with every enemy and whereever i hit them. i think i hate you bethesda......... so if you can help me or help anyone else who posts their problems here please do.