OBmodist

Sorry Fonger, but I followed bben46's advice just to be safe. Everything worked out find and I didn't get any conflicting issues. Though I tried FCOM again and gave up on it. While I'm replying, might as well ask, is there a particular order I should install the Unofficial Patches?

I have three separate CDs: Oblivion, Knights of the Nine, and Shivering Isles. I also have The Fighter's Stronghold mod. So essentially, I have all of the official mods. (Knights of the Nine comes with the other minor expansions.) I'm confused about patching though. The Knights of the Nine CD comes with a patch titled "v1.1 Final". Instead, I installed the Oblivion patch from the website (v1.2.0416). And then I install all the mods, and then I install the Shivering Isles. And then I install the Shivering Isles patch from the website. (Also v1.2.0416). Or at least, I try to. But the Shivering Isles patch gives me an error. "Old file not found. However, a file of the same name was found. No update done since file contents do not match." Was I not supposed to install the regular Oblivion 1.2 etc patch? Was I just supposed to install the Shivering Isles one? I read in a few places that Shivering Isles comes with a 1.2 Oblivion patch but it's not the same so I should use the newer one from the site if I want to be able to use certain mods right. When it comes to the original game, what is the install order for the game, the mods, shivering isles, and the patches? And which patches do I install in my case? And do I need to edit the registry now or something to start over?

Does BOSS work with all mods? I always thought it was just for FCOM. (Which I gave up on after following the instructions one step at a time and pinging about fifty red files in Wyre Bash afterwards.) Also, is OOO fun enough by itself to not need FCOM?

I've installed Oblivion, all official Oblivion add-ons including Shivering Isles, and all three Unofficial Oblivion Patches (regular, mods patch, shivering isles patch). When I use Oblivion Mod Manager and check for conflicts, it tells me there's a bunch of conflicts. Is this normal? Is it supposed to say there's conflicts? If not, then why am I getting conflicts? And what load order should I set in OBMM? Also, is OOO compatible with the Unofficial Patches?

Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm ----> Delinquent MASTER: Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34] 04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3] 05 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7] 06 TIE In - ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 1.2b] ----> Delinquent MASTER: ExnemRuneskulls.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: TIE In.esp 07 TIE In - FCOM Convergence.esp [Version 1.2b] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: Oblivion WarCry EV.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: FCOM_Convergence.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: TIE In.esp 08 TIE In - RealSwords.esp [Version 1.2b] ----> Delinquent MASTER: FCOM_RealSwords.esp 09 TIE In.esp [Version 1.2b] 0A Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] 0B UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 0C Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 0D Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0] 0E DLCHorseArmor.esp 0F DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 10 DLCOrrery.esp 11 DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3] 12 DLCFrostcrag.esp 13 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 14 DLCThievesDen.esp 15 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 16 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4] 17 DLCVileLair.esp 18 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5] 19 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 1A DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 1B DLCSpellTomes.esp 1C DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 1D Knights.esp 1E Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9] 1F ExnemRuneskulls.esp 20 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp 21 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 22 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 23 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4] 24 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp 25 Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp 26 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp 27 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp 28 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp 29 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp 2A Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp 2B Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp 2C Fran Armor Add-on.esp 2D Cutthroat Merchants.esp 2E Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Harvest [Flora].esp 2F Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Harvest [Flora].esp 30 Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] ----> Delinquent MASTER: Harvest [Flora].esp 31 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] 32 Living Economy - Items.esp 33 Living Economy.esp 34 Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp 35 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34] 36 OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33] 37 OOO-DLT_Remover.esp [Version 1.33] 38 OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp [Version 1.33] 39 OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33] 3A Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 3B Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 3C Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] ++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Blood.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 3D Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 3E Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] 3F Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp [Version 3.5.5b4] 40 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 41 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 42 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 43 Francesco's Dark Seducer Weapons Patch.esp 44 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9] 45 FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9] 46 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9] 47 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9] 48 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9] 49 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9] 4A FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9] 4B FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9] 4C FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9] 4D FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9] 4E FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9] 4F FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9] 50 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34] 51 Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 52 Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 53 Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 54 Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 55 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 56 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 57 Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] 58 Bashed Patch, 0.esp There they are.

Ack! Balls! Alright, this time I'm not starting a new game until I'm absolutely sure everything is perfect. I think I'm gonna have to reinstall the game though, and I'll put all my mods in the mod manager folder this time. Will FCOM mods work out alright in the mod manager folder?

According to the site, Red: Some files in the package are missing from the data directory. But that's umpossible! I haven't removed a single file from the installations. I've only deleted incompatible ESPs that BOSS told me to delete. But I haven't deleted any data files that could corrupt the packages. Could Wyre Bash be wrong somehow?

OK, so I'm using Wyre Bash to work FCOM. Well according to BOSS, everything is all good, but Wyre Bash is doing weird things to the mod titles. Most are in black letters with a green square to the left. That seems fine. Some titles are written in blue letters with a green square to the left. Some titles are written in green letters with a green square to the left. Some are written in black letters with a red highlight and a green square to the left. Some are written in green letters with a red highlight and a green square to the left. Some are written in black letters with a red square to the left. Some are written in green letters with a red square to the left. Some are written in green letters with a red highlight and a red square to the left. What do all these different color codings mean? I should have all the mods installed properly. I'm using BOSS and BOSS says I'm not missing anything and the mods under WyreBash list all the required mods, and all those are checked. What's with this color coding?

Ok, I've got this problem: -When an enemy dies, they turn green. I don't know if it's supposed to be like this after the mod or not, but I don't like it. Also, how do you get those transparent life, magic, and fatigue bars? I see them on every screenshot a seasoned modder posts.

Hey, according to the instructions, I download "python" and then download a later "python" and then I download "wyre bash" and install them in that order. Now that I've done that, how do I turn Wyre Bash on? There's no icon for it in the start menu. Just an uninstall one. Also, what on earth is python?

Wow. For a 4-post new member, you sure do know absolutely everything. Thanks for the help! Also, what's "OMOD"? Is it like Mod Manager?

Ok, I've decided to install FCOM. I was originally going to just use OOO, but I decided I might as well do as big an overhaul as I can. Do you think I made the right decision or do you think OOO is better by itself? Either way, I need help. I've got like fifty questions and "just google it!" doesn't work so well when asking specific questions. -Is FCOM compatible with all the Unofficial Oblivion Patches? -Does FCOM add anything to the Shivering Isles or Knights of the Nine content? -What on earth is "Wyre Bash" and why does the Downloads section of this page say I need it? -Which versions of each of the four big mods do I need to download? And what version of FCOM should I use? -Do I need Oblivion Mod Manager for any of this? -Besides FCOM and the four mods it unites, are there any other mods I need for this that I don't know about? -Where can I find an index of things that these mods add to the game? Thank you.