Bruhmis

have you made any progress with this? also, why is it necessary to check for lightsources around the player? is it not possible to globally turn on all light sources?

GPU: GTX 970 Windforce CPU: I7 4771 RAM: 16 GB 1866 mhz Motherboard: Asrock z97 Anniversary Monitors: Asus VE278 1920x1080 LCD + a generic LG LCD via A/V receiver Hard Drives: Seagate ST1000DM003 1TB + Western Digital WD15EARS 1.5 TB + The kingston SSD

I never thought I'd hear of a vga cable impeding a computer's ability to operate. what the hell. it sounds like the cable might be made by bethesda.

well none of the windows tests changed anything. I'm also on a new motherboard and the good ole' bethesda stutter is still there. I guess this is a permanent curse.

very smooth.

that's interesting. 30% was the number I was coming to as well. I was in the middle of setting up the windows test, and something went seriously wrong. My storage drive seems to have been wiped. I had to order another hard drive just to recover the lost data - so I have to wait for that to get here before I can attempt the test again. I hate windows

yeah well I wasn't installing it to play it - I just wanted to see if the problem was isolated to fallout 4. turns out it isn't. skyrim special edition does have the stutter, although it's drastically less severe than in fallout. I'm going to guess the reason it's less severe is that the material files are much lower quality in skyrim. I'm pretty confident at this point that the problem is linked to the loading of materials - but I just don't understand how windows could be interfering with that process.

I just realized that "Skyrim: Special Edition" just came out - so I figure I might as well install it and see if the stutter is there. I did test regular skyrim earlier in the thread, and the problem wasn't there, but the special edition should be much more similar to FO4 from a technical standpoint.

I guess my PSU could be responsible for the lower bench results. it's a 500w psu - which on paper should be just barely enough to support what I have. but it was one of the more solid PSUs around when I bought it, and the most expensive one in its class. I'm sure I don't need to tell you that PSU specs are kind of ambiguous, and most of the time a premium quality 500w will have more power output than a cheap 900w. But, with regards to the thread topic - this only helps to remove any possible blame from the SSD (which would make sense, because I haven't felt that the SSD has anything wrong with it - plus the other drive behaves the same way with fallout). I suspected windows to be the cause from the beginning, but the reason I made the thread was to see if there was a way to fix this problem that wasn't as severe as reinstalling windows. so, for now I think we can concede that my hardware probably isn't to blame for fallout's stutter. I'll be reinstalling windows as soon as I get my hands on the new motherboard - but I'd still like to track down where windows is (probably) failing. I mean, is it corrupt drivers? is it just an inevitable thing on months old windows installations?

thanks for the link to the hard drives. My cpu is the I7 4771. it doesn't have 8 cores - but with hyper threading it does expand its 4 cores to eight threads. I don't use hyperthreading though. I tested both methods for limiting the game to two cores. other than severely reducing my framerate, it had no effect on the problem.

the only thing I'm confused about is SSD performance. I've read over the last couple of days that the motherboard can severely impact SSD performance (some of the benchmarks I've looked at illustrate this very clearly). even the Kingston support guy said that - but the explanation is always very vague. I have no idea what to look for in a motherboard to make sure it's not going to bottleneck my SSD like my current one is. the one I'm looking at is apparently capped out at 1000 MB/s which is well above my SSD's capacity - so hopefully that'll be good enough. I also can't seem to find these dirt cheap laptop hard drives you mentioned.

Well, I wasn't planning on installing windows on the SSD. I was just going to make a new partition on my storage drive and install it on that. 1 TB for $20 sounds pretty enticing anyway, though. but yesterday a friend expressed interest in buying my motherboard off of me - so this might be an opportunity to upgrade to a better motherboard and rule out that as a problem (as well as a fresh installation of windows once the motherboard is installed). how can I tell if a motherboard will "support" my SSD? and how can I tell if the storage controller will be a bottleneck? I never see anything like that in the specifications.

it is. I just don't want to start installing windows before I get my work done for next week - I've had some serious problems relating to secondary OS installations before and I don't want to risk it until I have everything finished and backed up. especially since the windows 10 installer seems to have a mind of its own. one of the many basic things they managed to make a mess of with windows 10.

oh ok I thought you were saying something completely different. so yeah that's definitely not something I can look into as a fix. probably it'll end up being only a new windows installation that that can fix it - I'll probably do that at some point today or tomorrow after I finish up with work.

yeah I actually have tried that before. as far as I've seen this fixes a stutter that occurs in the main menu - but it didn't affect the in game stutter for me.

so you mean, I run the game, alt tab, and run a second instance of it? also is this normal behavior or should I treat it as a possible cause for the stutter

after some further research into my motherboard, and SSD performance in general - it seems to me that the most likely explanation for this is that the motherboard is simply not able to support the speeds my SSD is capable of. I'm glad I was made aware of this, but it's not a possible cause for the problems in fallout. with that in mind, I'll probably try the windows test soon. I think I'll install windows 10 first and see what happens - then move on to windows 7 if the problem persists.

I spent some time monitoring the temperature of my SSD a couple days ago. even during heavy load, it sits right around 30 c which is well below its heat threshold. I still think this all going to turn out to be unrelated to the fallout problem though - simply because the problem occurs on both drives, and it's something I've seen before in bethesda games. that, and I'd probably be quicker to blame my motherboard for the problem rather than the SSD's temps.

is that referring specifically to my line of SSDs?

I'll give that test a shot. but I'm leaning more towards something being wrong somewhere - either with windows, the SSD itself, or the motherboard (my money is on windows, for obvious reasons). what this still doesn't explain is how the game behaves the same way on the mechanical drive - and wasn't doing it before. I wouldn't be surprized if it turned out that the game itself, windows, my SSD etc. all had problems of their own. I also still have the windows 7 test that you suggested, but I'm holding off doing that until I know if I'm getting my SSD replaced/repaired.

yeah, unfortunately I didn't have any money left for a decent motherboard when I bought it - and I needed something that'd work with the cpu I'd just bought. now I have even less money for a motherboard. though, if I find one of those laying in a field, I'll be sure to grab it.

yeah, that's the one.

Well, I keep almost everything on my storage drive. the only thing that's on the SSD is windows, fallout and mods. the motherboard is the h81m-e. it's not a high end motherboard - so that's why it doesn't have too much going on. it's not actually "old" though, just a lower end option.

turned on hotplug. the benchmark results are still terrible. I'll test the game out in a minute, but I'm not too optimistic.

what, you mean don't put random files and folders just on c:\ ? I never do that, that would drive me insane. so were you able to see the settings you wanted to see in those pictures? or have you not been able to load them yet