NewoNZ

Success!! I finally installed, activated, lootorized, patched, re-lootorized, double patched, manually lootorized and launched the game! No immediate issues or errors that weren't already solved during the loot process. All i need to do is set all the mods up ingame and test it for a while to see how things work before I finally start a permanent character! Hoorah!

It's such a long drawn out process, I guess probably because I'm being so ambitious for my first attempt at modding skyrim. I have arranged my mod list in order for installation now and have checked everything for compatibility by sourcing any extra required mods or patches. All with the exception of Trade Routes and Realistic Carry Weight. I'm almost tempted just to leave them both out. Then all I need to do is go through the process of installing them all, figure out ASIS and bashed patches. [Edit] Of course I couldn't help myself and had to look at another massive recommended mods list giving me another 20 potential mods to consider... *sigh* Added some more mods (for the last time... for now...) Achieve ThatLoot LaterTake Notes - Journal of the DragonbornHigh Level EnemiesReal ShelterHeljarchen FarmWindstad MineDrop Lit TorchesLanterns on Horse SaddlesThieves Guild RequirementsThe Paarthurnax DilemmaTiming is EverythingThe Choice is YoursSilent SkyrimSkyRealism - Capacity

Updated the first post to reflect all changes made so far, if anybody is interested.

I'm still going through my extensive mod list and figuring out what mods go before other mods in terms of installation to create the least amount of problems, and what mods need things done after they have been installed such as .ini tweaks or Bash patches etc. I have a question though. Do you need to create a bash patch for the mod that requires it after installing that mod, or can you just install ALL mods and then create a final bash patch? For the most part, all I have left to sort are my NPC related mods, combat and magic mods. I really wanted to use Perkus Maximus but looking at all the compatability issues and how its installed, I found it a little too daunting so I've put that one aside for now. There are 2 mods that I really want to use but am struggling to figure out how they will work together. Realistic Carry Weight and Item Value Economy Overhaul and Trade Routes at Skyrim I want the carry weight overhaul combined with the item value from Trade Routes. I'm thinking that if I load Traderoutes after it will over-write carry weight? But I'm not 100% sure on this.

Adding a few more mods to the list to support the map mod. Player Home Map Markers Fully Colored Map Markers High Quality 3D Map (High Res) A Quality World Map (with Clear Map and Dragonborn DLC addons) High Quality LOD's Also some fire mods. Ultimate HD Fire Effects Deadly Spell Impacts Smoking Torches and Candles Since I suffered a hard drive failure and basically have had to reinstall and start from scratch, I'm also compiling a step by step list of instructions to make any future installs as painless as possible. So I was thinking that if anybody finds the list of mods I've compiled attractive I would be more than willing to share them. I'm currently working on checking all the mods so that I get the install order correct. ------------------------------ Revised the combat mods to be replaced with: Grimy Combat Patcher ASIS Revenge Of The Enemies Attack Commitment No Turning Also added: Hearthfire Extended HD Noble FurnitureServants Sort LootHunting in SkyrimWearable LanternsCloaks of SkyrimWinter is Coming - Cloaks360 Walk Run Plus (for clipping issues with cloaks)Immersive Weapons (to go with Immersive Armors)Deadly Dragons at SkyrimOrdinator (to replace Perkus Maximus for Compatability)Dawn of Skyrim Collection (To replace JK's Skyrim for compatability with Immersive Citizens)Inconsequential NPC's

Thats fine, its all relevent in one way or another for the most part. I've also decided to add Convenient Horses to my list and am considering changing Ultimate Followers to Amazing Follower Tweaks. The biggest draw for me to change is the permanent relaxed state that followers are in which will massively increase the immersion. The extra features help a lot too and I'm sure I'm not going to need in excess of 5 followers at one time. It's just a shame the menu for interaction couldn't be as immersive as Ultimate Followers. Added the the list as well is: Cobb Encumbrance, to compliment the realistic carry weight Dynamic Things, to compliment Frostfall as well as making the world more interactive. Face to Face Conversation Improved Closefaced Helmets, to compliment Face to Face Conversation. Farmers Sell Produce Mine Foremen Sell Ore No Combat Boundaries, to increase exploration difficulty Multiple Floors Sandboxing, to compliment which ever follower mod I choose and improve AI immersion Helgen Reborn - Just some more quest content. Also, I have cleaned up my master files as well, thanks for that info! =========================================== I have just discovered Perkus Maximus! I've done a quick scan through my mods for compatability and from what I can tell all the magic mods are fine, havn't checked the combat mods because I havn't finalised my selection yet anyway and the Archery Gameplay Overhaul mod is compatible however it does break one of the perklines in perma because of the way bow draw speed is handled. Theres a good chance I might add this to my list.

I really appreciate the information you guys have provided me with so far. I'll try to answer a few things and clear things up as well. As for my computer specs, they are: Windows 7 64 (Though I'm thinking of doing an upgrade if I can bring myself to accept change) I5-4460 (Seriously considering upgrading to an i7 as soon as I can afford one, though options are probably limited due to motherboard) 8GB Ram (Though I have purchased another 8, just havn't installed it yet) Saphire R9 390 8GB 250GB SSD 2TB HDD MoreHUD just shows detailed information when you look at items, plants, etc instead of having to go into the menu to check and have the item in your inventory. I'm hoping that it wont conflict with Immersive HUD. I watched a video of them both in action so hopefully I can get it to work. I'll do some more research into the combat mods and revise my decisions. It is a definite must have in some form or another as I'm trying to give myself a new experience rather than remind myself of what I've already done. Going to add Campfire - Complete Camping System to go with Frostfall I might consider other map related mods at some stage but in the mean time I'm happy with the current selection and not concerned with the zoom aspect. Better roads isn't a map mod, its actually considered more of a graphics mod really as it makes the roads ingame look better by adding things like curbs and stuff. However I will add the Atlas map markers to the mod list. I'll take a closer look at Skybirds and the other bird mods. They aren't really necessary but just something that I thought would add to the eye candy so if I take them out I won't be too upset. Bag of holding would conflict with the Realistic Carry Weight mod in the sense that it contradicts through purpose. I've also decided that I'll probably add Mage Backpack, Bandolier - Bags and Pouches and Sabre Gear Backpack mods to offset what is likely to be a painfully low carrying weight while adding to the realism. The only thing is I wish there were some dissadvantages to wearing packs.

I have just recently purchased the pc version of Skyrim after owning it from the beginning of time on the ps3 and decided that I'll take full advantage of being able to mod the absolute crap out of it. I've done a fair amount of research and come up with a list that best represents how I would like the game to feel with a bit of tweeking and such. I've got all of the graphical stuff sorted, Game seems to run fine so far but before I go ahead and start adding in all of the mods that change gameplay and add content I thought I'd see if some experienced mod users can spot any instant conflicts that I may have missed. Also any advice on load order is appreciated as well. Please don't think that I'm just dumping a list on the forums and expecting everybody to tell me exactly which ones will and wont work and tell me how to install and load them all. I have all intentions of continuing to work through this myself, I just thought that some of you may be able to instantly see problems from your own experiences and might be able to save me a few minor headaches. The list is as follows: Current mods and load order DragonbornHearthFiresDawnguardUnofficial Legendary PatchClimates Of TamrielHighResTexturePack01HighResTexturePack02HighResTexturePack03SMIM (Static Mesh Improvement)VerdantClimates Of Tamriel Dawnguard PatchClimates Of Tamriel Dragonborn PatchEnhanced Lights and FXAMB Glass Variants Lore (I think this might be part of aMidianborn?)Differently Ebony (Also part of aMidianborn?)aMidianborn Skyforge WeaponsaMidianborn Content AddonProject Parallax Remastered (listed as EpisodeParallax.esp)I also use RealVision ENB full, although i will probably have to drop it to performance to gain some frames back after I finalize my mod list. So as mentioned above, this list seems to work without any issues so far, though I havn't played it extensively for long periods of time. Here are the mods I am hoping to all work together: [updated 23/2/16] Complete Fast Travel OverhaulFrostfallCampfire - Complete Camping SystemImmersiveHUDImportant Information OverhaulMoreHUDGrimy UtilitiesSkyUI5A Quality World MapAtlas Map MarkersPlayer Home Map MarkersFully Colored Map MarkersHigh Quality 3D Map (High Res)High Quality LOD'sSkyrim Heart RateLiving Takes TimeDeath Alternative - Your Money or Your LifeCobb EncumbranceConvenient HorsesMage BackpackBandolier - Bags and PouchesSabre Gear BackpacksRealistic Needs and DiseasesTrade RoutesBetter RoadsAnimated ClutterAnimations (Character animations that work with Animated Clutter)Dynamic Things - More interactive ObjectsSmartcastWintermystForgotten MagicApocalypse - Magic of SkyrimGrimy Combat PatcherASISRevenge Of The EnemiesAttack Commitment No TurningArchery Gameplay OverhaulImmersive Amazing Follower TweaksOrganised Bandits of SkyrimImmersive PatrolsImmersive Citizens - AI OverhaulPopulated Towns, Cities, VillagesPopulated Roads, PathsImmersive Armours and WeaponsRealistic Animals and PredatorsFluffy Animals (Will remove if not compatable)Tame the Beast 2Hunting Mod (hunterborn)Immersive Spells and LightSounds of SkyrimFace to Face ConversationFarmers Sell ProduceMine Foremen Sell OreNo Combat BoundariesMultiple Floors SandboxingUltimate HD Fire EffectsDeadly Spell ImpactsSmoking Torches and CandlesHD Noble Furniture (for Hearthfire Extended)Servents Sort LootHunting in SkyrimWearable LanternsCloaks of SkyrimWinter is Coming - Cloaks360 Walk Run Plus (for clipping issues with cloaks)Immersive Weapons (to go with Immersive Armors)Deadly Dragons at SkyrimOrdinator (to replace Perkus Maximus for compatability)Inconsequential NPC'sSpouses Can Live AnywhereBellyaches HD Dragon ReplacerDragon Animation ReplacerSkyTweakAchieve ThatLoot LaterTake Notes - Journal of the DragonbornHigh Level EnemiesReal ShelterDrop Lit TorchesLanterns on Horse SaddlesThieves Guild RequirementsThe Paarthurnax DilemmaTiming is EverythingThe Choice is YoursSilent SkyrimSkyRealism - CapacityThen just a couple of cities and house mods: Dawn of Skyrim Collection (to replace JK's Skyrim for compatability with Immersive Citizens)FalskaarWyrmstoothFunctional HomesHelgen RebornHearthfire ExtendedHeljarchen FarmWindstad MineRemoved Items: Immersive Travel - Fast Travel Disabler (Apparently this feature is contained within Frostfall)Equipping Overhaul (Removed because I can't be bothered trying to make it work)Open Cities (Compatability Issues with OBIS and Immersive Patrols)*MAYBE* Perkus Maximus (Replaced with Ordinator for compatability)Skybirds (Removed all bird mods until I have time to research fully)Birds of SkyrimBirds and FlocksImproved Closefaced HelmetsJK's SkyrimRealistic Carry Weight (Replaced with Cobb Encumbrance and SkyRealism - Capacity) ================================================================ Phew! So this list may change over time as I confirm compatability, potential performance issues and weigh up needs vs wants. All thoughts and suggestions are more than welcome.