Stemin

Yeah, I didn't know I had to use obse_loader, and yes I installed all those patches at once. I'm a little confused about what you said about the data launcher. Is this something you were supposed to use for mods? I haven't gotten far enough to install any mods. As a matter of fact, I uninstalled the unofficial official mod patch and the game starts up now. While it's good the game is running, this means I can't use mods, right? Not good. EDIT: After going through the link again and reading the changelog for the Unofficial Official Mod Patch, it appears these don't actually get the game ready for modding, but instead is another unofficial attempt at fixing Oblivion errors Bethesda made, right? Which is still bad I guess that I can't install it, but has nothing to do with using mods, right? Still, what's my next step here. But if I read you right, I should try re-installing the mod patch and running OBSE_loader instead of Oblivion and seeing if that works? I'm still going to get the same error message on install though. And I should apply the 4gb patch to OBSE_loader then? And not oblivion.exe?

Ok. I know it's been a few weeks, but my frustration with the controller made me put this off. My computer buddy had to come over and change the frequency of my blutooth mouse and keyboard to finally get my xbox controller to sync. So this weekend I used the instructions Striker879 posted from the wiki page (thanks man!) and using Xpadder I was able to get my xbox controller working with some minor tweaking. Ran the game, everything worked ok. Installed Shivering Isles and Knights of Nine... ran it again... everything was good. Then I installed everything you suggested in the thread above prior to modding.... The unofficial patch, the unofficial patch upgrade, the unofficial official mod patch, obmm, boss, the script extender... basically everything prior to adding an actual mod. The only things I did differently were that I installed the 4GB patch, and I did not install the supplemental patch because the link in that thread doesn't work. The game crashes immediately on startup after I click play. The only hitch I ran into during installation and possibly the cause is when I install the Unofficial Official mod patch, it runs the TES4LODGen 3.0.15 Experimental script at the end of the installation and that crashes. When it gets to Background Loader DLCVileLair.esp it gives a fatal EOSError System error Code 2, saying it cannot find the specified file. I used the default settings for each program installed. But even if I go back and install and uncheck the TES4LODGen box, it still gives a crash on startup. I have run BOSS. So I haven't even installed a mod and the patches are crashing my game. Any suggestions?

I have the "official" Microsoft XBox 360 PC controller. I was hoping someone could tell me how to set it up for Oblivion. When I started the game I went into the joystick settings, but all it will allow me to use is the 4 main buttons and the d-pad. Not the triggers or the joysticks. Thanks.

Hmm.. I installed the game on my laptop and desktop and it never asked for disk 2.

I do have the game of the year edition with the Knights of Nine and Shivering Isles, but I probably have to install those separately, yes? I'm assuming that's what the second disk is for?

Ok.. that's good stuff to know. I also read somewhere that if you're going to mod you shouldn't install oblivion in the program files directory? I read that AFTER I installed the game already... is that a big deal? Should I reinstall? I'm running a Q6600 quad core intel: http://ark.intel.com/products/29765 I have 16gb of Ram... IIRC its DDR3 Graphics card is a geforce 210.. I can't remember the specifics but I just bought it last year. I think it has an additional 1gb of DDR2.. I threw the box away and win 7 control panel isn't very helpful. I got a few terrabyte drives so HD space isn't an issue. When I installed on the laptop Oblivion said it couldn't identify my graphics card, so that might be why it crashes on my laptop. Seems likely. I'm pretty familiar with the two wiki's from my 500 hours I have logged in skyrim, so I'm good there. I just need to find a good startup guide that walks you through it so I don't have to sit there and read 15 pages of wiki before I can actually play the game. I like to use wikia or wiki to look up quest bugs that weren't fixed and research different parts of lore. Thank you again. BTW, man am I gonna need to get used to the GUI on this board. That little dividing line before "reply, quote" etc. keeps throwing me off because it looks like it's part of the post below it. I keep clicking the wrong post to reply! Lol.

Wow. Someone who reads the whole post, addresses every point, and multiquotes to make it easy to read? You and me are gonna get along great. ;) (and that's not a knock on anyone below you) I'll have to see what's available, but if someone's messing with the UI as you called it already, maybe it's possible. Maybe the PC is a bit better than my experience on XBox. I didn't mess with the PC version much when I realized my gamepad wasn't going to work, but everything I saw so far was similar. My main beef with Oblivion was the fact that everything took place in that little window, and I guess the way stuff is broken down for navigation. The window issue was more of a problem for me with the map. I don't require a 3d Map like skyrim, it just would nice to have it full screen so I can see more of what's going on. Some color wouldn't hurt either. I think I saw a mod for that. And maybe the navigation is something I'll get used to, but it just seemed like I was taking 2 steps to get to something for every 1 that I would do in skyrim. Once I start playing it more maybe I'll start posting specifics. I think that one is pinned? Or at least it's close to the top. I did see that before. I read everything I could before my first post and I'll definitely go through those step by step before I get too big into posting questions, but I wanted to get some general stuff out of the way. Is it ok to post spoilers if you identify them or do you strictly have to post those in the spoiler forum? I guess.... I gave a general description above of how far along I am in the game, and in regards to the leveling, I kinda felt like I should be past level 1 by now. I thought I remember reading somewhere that you had to sleep in Oblivion to level up, but I did that and nothing. I need to look and see how close I am. I'm sure that's got to be in one of my menus. Is there like a starter guide somewhere for gameplay? Thank you.

Hi all. I'm relatively new to the board. Been lurking for a minute. I feel silly making a new topic over stuff that has been covered, but I was reading the pinned stuff and they seem pretty strict about not posting in someone else's thread and not resurrecting old threads.... Anyways... I've been playing Skyrim since late Nov on PS3, and I bought Oblivion in December for XBox 360. I had some trouble getting into it after playing Skyrim. It's not the graphics so much as it is the interface and the gameplay. I can stand all the clunky menus in Oblivion when everything seems so much more streamlined in skyrim. The map is just way better in skyrim as well. I would love to find a mod that makes Oblivions maps and menus more like Skyrim and I might do a request. Anyways... I will get into modding eventually, but right now I just want to get into this game a bit. I just bought the PC version and I've got a question or two as well as some problems. I've read in several places that Oblivion is just prone to crashing. Is that the end of the story? I mean is this something that occurs because of all the modding people do or is the game that unstable? I had heard that the modding community was doing a great job of fixing Bethesda's issues and I am hoping for stability first and foremost. I've already had the game crash on my laptop but I assumed it was because the laptop is only like a 1.8ghz processor. Then it crashed on my quad core desktop machine, but I got it running. My computer buddy said it was because my dual monitor setup was confusing it. I would also like whatever advice anyone can give on setting up a joystick, specifically I have the official XBox 360 pc controller. Tried it last night and I can't seem to get the joysticks to work at all when I'm in the joystick button settings menu. The d-pad works and the 4 regular buttons. The bumpers and triggers don't work either. Last but not least some gameplay advice would be appreciated. I haven't played a ton on the xbox, but the little I did play I was able to make it out of the first dungeon, locate the first person you're trying to find near the first oblivion gate, but I was finding the game very difficult. Also I can't seem to figure out how the leveling system works. Everything in skyrim is skill based. Thanks in advance.

I think I'm almost through the Dark Brotherhood quests... I killed the Emperor (not the decoy) so I must only have a few more left. I chose to kill Cicero. I actually flipped a coin on it. But now I've gotten to the point where I've learned that the Family is almost wiped out and they've taken up residence in the Dawnstar Sanctuary. My question is, if I had let Cicero live, I believe he becomes a follower that you can recruit from the Dawnstar Sanctuary, so would he live there and interact with Nazim and Babbette if I had not killed him? I'm kinda curious how that would have turned out.