supermonstah666

Issue has been resolved. I removed some script heavy mods that i wasn't using or i felt like i wouldn't miss and i've been able to play in one sitting which normally would have taken me at least 5-10 freezes to get through.

So i finally have my game stable enough where i have 0 CTDs but the only problem that's left to fix are freezes. You know the type, screen freezes but the music keeps playing. these crashes usually happen when loading into an area and happen at random times. Papyrus logging shows something different every time and then again papyrus logs are not counted as crashlogs. .NET Framework doesn't generate any logs since the freeze is not a CTD. The only thing i can offer in this case is my loadorder so i'd love it if you guys could give it a peak and tell me what i could potentially do to fix these freezes. 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hhhhm not the answer i was hoping for but understandable. start with a fresh install and try it again. the patches you speak about have been merged as to avoid going over the 255 plugin limit. but i do admit that the installation order has been chaotic so i will definetely go and try that again. kinda sad that FNIS might be a problem but hey if its an issue it's an issue I'll do some digging and hopefully it fixes issues. i've also just minutes ago started to get CTDs and the .net Framework logs are not telling me much either.

So i've been having this problem ever since i started with this mod list. I can play fine and have never had an actual CTD yet but the one problem i do have are random Freezes during combat. Usually as i strike with my weapon. Now this happened against multiple enemy types and has even happened as i got into combat. I'm not that well versed in reading the papyrus log and so i cannot really identify what the problem is. the last bit of the papyrus log talks about ORD which is ordinator but it is unclear to me what the actual problem is. Is it a specific perk i have gotten that causes this? And how would i go about fixing this? Papyrus log of the most recent freeze: https://pastebin.com/3BWNwhGG My mod list: https://pastebin.com/1JHHV2MD I hope someone here can help me out, the game is stable as can be and this is the ONLY remaining problem.