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Not sure whether this is the right place for this thread, however I have noted that when using the mod "Categories" listing, the listed number of "files" in each Category do not match the actual number therein. :confused: I have not checked all categories, but all those that I used all were incorrect. It was particularly annoying when "Bug Fixes" claimed to have 3 files, but there were none there :sad: !

Why Is Newly Re-installed Morrowind Crashing on Start-up?: I recently reinstalled Morrowind and set about remodding it by following guidelines in BTB's Morrowing Mod List. I ran Morrowind Code Patch and MGE 3.8.0. I used Mlox several times and corrected the conflicts it turned up using NMM and various mod sources. I started Morrowind. After protesting with several pop-up error messages, it promptly crashed. The Warnings file follows: “One of the files that "Vivec_Voice_addon TRIBUNAL.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message but not necessarily fix any errors. One of the files that "BetterClothesForTB.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message but not necessarily fix any errors. One of the files that "Passive_Healthy_Wildlife.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message but not necessarily fix any errors. One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. I was not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1. I was unable to find referenced object "|MGEpipe" in script MGE_Zoom.” I could not find a “Foot” either. But I did find and install Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.esp. BetterClothesForTB and BetterClothesBloodmoonPlus and More Better Clothes Vol 1 - Vanilla also are installed. I was not able to find anything like "|MGEpipe" nor how to do anything to MGE_Zoom. Mlox showed all mods had the required Masters. I do not understand why a change in an .ESP's master file since the “last save” makes any difference when there are NO SAVES. Nevertheless, I disabled the 3 offending .esp's and tried again. The game crashed again on start-up leaving a shorter warnings.txt: “Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1. Unable to find referenced object "|MGEpipe" in script MGE_Zoom.” Mlox shows nothing related to Better Clothes nor MGE_Zoom ? So ... does anyone know how to overcome this problem? EDIT 15MAR2016: Following is the Mlox output: [NOTE] > 'DN-GDRv1 (BTB Edit).esp' | ! Darknut has released a new version of "Darknut's Greater Dwemer Ruins", 1.1 | ! Download it from Morrowind Nexus - http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/43544/ [NOTE] > 'Syc_HerbalismforPurists (Pearl Bug Edit).esp' | ! "Herbalism for Purists" has an error in its Kollop script. BTB's version of the plugin fixes the error "by removing the mod's effects on kollups altogether". | ! Alternatively, Spirithawke has released a fixed version of "Herbalism for Purists" which corrects the script error but maintains the mod's effect on kollops, scroll down to the Additional Files section: | ! http://mw.modhistory.com/download--9321 [NOTE] > [ANY > 'Illuminated Windows v1.2.esp', > 'Illuminated Windows - Bloodmoon v1.2.esp] | ! Dark Angel suggests changing your morrowind.ini so quadratic lighting is used. | ! See "MW_Illuminated_windows_v1_2.zip\Data Files\DrkAngel readme.doc" [NOTE] > 'Morrowind Code Patch Showcase.esp' | ! The Morrowind Code Patch Showcase does not need to be loaded for MCP to function. Disable the mod after you have compared how patched Morrowind differs from normal Morrowind. | ! (Ref: "MCP Readme.txt") [NOTE] > "Timeslip's trinkets.esp" | These mods require Morrowind Graphics Extender (MGE) v3.0.3 or later, with MWSE enabled. [NOTE] > 'Better Music System (BTB Edit) (Vanilla).esp' | These mods require Morrowind Script Extender (MWSE) v0.9.4a, or MGE v3.5.6 or later. [NOTE] > 'Clean UMPP-fixes-BTB-v2.esp' | !! "The Umbra script of "Clean UMPP-fixes-BTB-v2.esp" (UMPP 1.6.5 fixes) seems to bugged. As soon as i have killed Umbra i get an never ending stream of Journal Updates and my inventory gets glitched up." | !! (Ref: http://www.fliggerty.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=5902 ) current saved to: current_loadorder.out mlox sorted saved to: mlox_new_loadorder.out

I have a similar, but recent TES3 problem on a Win 10 system. Morrowind is installed on D:\Games\SteamLibrary\SteamApps\common\Morrowind\... Following is my tale of woe: Why Is Newly Re-installed Morrowind Crashing on Start-up?: I recently reinstalled Morrowind and set about remodding it by following guidelines in BTB's Morrowing Mod List. I ran Morrowind Code Patch and MGE 3.8.0. After running Mlox several times and correcting the conflicts it turned up using NMM and various mod sources, I started Morrowind. After protesting with several pop-up error messages, it promptly crashed. The Warnings file follows: “One of the files that "Vivec_Voice_addon TRIBUNAL.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message but not necessarily fix any errors. One of the files that "BetterClothesForTB.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message but not necessarily fix any errors. One of the files that "Passive_Healthy_Wildlife.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save. This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message but not necessarily fix any errors. One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1. Unable to find referenced object "|MGEpipe" in script MGE_Zoom.” I could not find a “Foot” either. But I did find and install Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.esp. BetterClothesForTB and BetterClothesBloodmoonPlus and More Better Clothes Vol 1 - Vanilla also are installed. Was not able to find anything like "|MGEpipe" nor how to do anything to MGE_Zoom. I do not understand why a change in an .ESP's master file since the “last save” makes any difference when there are NO SAVES for a new game. Nevertheless, I disabled the 3 offending .esp's and tried again. The game crashed again on start-up leaving a shorter warnings.txt: “Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1. Unable to find referenced object "|MGEpipe" in script MGE_Zoom.” Mlox shows nothing related to Better Clothes nor MGE_Zoom ? So ... does anyone know how to overcome this problem? Following is the Mlox listing of mod order: _001_ Morrowind.esm _002_ Tribunal.esm _003_ Bloodmoon.esm _004_ Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm _005_ Bloodmoon Landscape Overhaul 1.0.esm _006_ Morrowind Advanced.esm _007_ GDR_MasterFile.esm _008_ Better Heads.esm _009_ Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm _010_ Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm _011_ Clean UMPP-fixes-BTB-v2.esp _012_ Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.esp _013_ Less Lore.esp _014_ Almalexia_Voicev1.esp _015_ Dagoth Gares_Voice_addon v1.1.esp _016_ Talrivian's State-Based HP Mod v.2.2.esp _017_ Service Requirements (BTB Edit).esp _018_ BTB - Settings (Alternate).esp _019_ BetterClothesBloodmoonPlus.esp _020_ Better Clothes Complete (BTB Edit).esp _021_ More Better Clothes.ESP _022_ Ice_ElegantGowns.esp _023_ Ice_GownOfAzura.esp _024_ IceBradyHurdyRobeReplacerPLUS (BTB Edit).esp _025_ DM_DB Armor Replacer-Exp (BTB Edit).esp _026_ Almalexia Armor (BTB Edit).esp _027_ Ice's Glass Cuirass.esp _028_ Ice_Wolf_Cuirass_Mod.esp _029_ Ice_FemaleSteelCuirass.esp _030_ Ice's BM Ice & NordicMail.esp _031_ Ice_RubyKnightsArmor.esp _032_ OfficialMods_v5.esp _033_ Locked doors fix.esp _034_ WeatheredSigns.esp _035_ Skill Progress.esp _036_ Take Notes.esp _037_ BetterBooks_AlchFormfix.esp _038_ Daggerfall Collection Ver 1.0 (BTB Edit).esp _039_ Daggerfall Collection Ver 1.1 (BTB Edit).esp _040_ DN-GDRv1.1.esp _041_ DN-GDRv1 (BTB Edit).esp _042_ The Neverhalls.esp _043_ Better Bodies.esp _044_ Morrowind Code Patch Showcase.esp _045_ MGE examples.esp _046_ Timeslip's trinkets.esp _047_ container tweak.esp _048_ Better Music System (BTB Edit) (Vanilla).esp _049_ Quieter_UI_Sounds.esp _050_ A_flock_of_seagulls.esp _051_ ASE Complete (BTB Edit).esp _052_ Illuminated Windows v1.2.esp _053_ Illuminated Windows - Bloodmoon v1.2.esp _054_ Area Effect Projectiles (PAR Edit).esp _055_ New Argonian Bodies - Mature.esp _056_ New Khajiit Bodies - Mature.esp _057_ Quick Char (Timescale Edit).esp _058_ BTB - Character (Alternate).esp _059_ Argonian wb toggle.ESP _060_ Khajiit Night Eye Toggle.ESP _061_ SG-BB-for-beasts.esp _062_ DXM_masterindex_journalfix.esp _063_ Ice_RheddsWE4Hair.esp _064_ MW_Adv_Required (BTB Edit).esp _065_ Syc_HerbalismforPurists_BM.esp _066_ Syc_HerbalismforPurists_TB.esp _067_ Syc_HerbalismforPurists (Pearl Bug Edit).esp _068_ EcoAdjCrime (Tresspass Edit).esp _069_ EcoAdjMerchantSkills (Disposition Edit).esp _070_ KS_Ren's_Oblivion_Hair_for_Morrowind_1.0.esp _071_ Dagoth Ur Fix.esp _072_ EmmasKhuul.esp _073_ MorrowindStrut.ESP _074_ Hortator Nerevarine Fix.ESP _075_ House of Earthly Delights, Harem Style.esp _076_ Seyda Shack V1.1.esp

In response to post #8005321. #8005891 is also a reply to the same post. @Aelthas, had you not made your closing comment, I would not have suspected you were not a "native" {wherever that may be} English speaker. Your grammar and composition are superior to most I have observed in these forums. Btw, I held the same feelings as your friend at one time, but have gradually increased my use of the Nexus and other sites due to the excellence of most of their Mods and related commentary. And, the Dark0ne is among the best.

Steam frequently has cancelled active mods. I don't know exactly when this happens. I find out when reviewing the mods list following a ctd or before restarting after a routine shutdown. Usually, a large number have been UNselected [i.e. disabled]. The NMM list often varies from Steam's. Several mods ALWAYS are turned off, including most significantly DRAGONBORN & HighResTexturePack01.esp. WTH ??? I paid good [i think anyway] money for that DLC and Steam automatically is turning it off so I cannot use it !!! Btw, the Dragonborn.esm dlc will not even show up on NMM. Have NO IDEA how to get it there; supposed to be automatic as are Skyrim/ Dawnguard/ HearthFires. Dragonborn.esm & HighResTexturePack01.esp ARE on the Steam mod list, but always unselected [& HRTP01 is near the BOTTOM of the list on NMM]. BOSS puts them back at the top. Other mods on Steam's hit list are: all 4 versions of Saige's ItemSorting, FatCat's Skriptures, Console Books, some of TurboSnowy's Angel/ Monster mods, 3 backpack & Dr_bandolier mods, UnlimitedBookshelves, jbs_banking_redux, Skyrim Project Optimization.esm, immersive thunder, bound weapons redux, Breezehome fully upgraded, AlchemyOrganization, 3 smelter mods [Riverwood/Riften/Solitude], the better[town/inn] set [Morthal/ Dawnstar/ Winterhold/ MarkarthExt], 4 BetterQuestObjectives set, BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM, BooksBooksBooks, 5 Spouse Merchant Counters [Hjerim/ Riften/ Markarth/ Solitude/ Brzhm], 2 Konahrik_Accoutrements mods, ALL SkyRealism mods, ALL UFO mods, WellCaveCustom, Underwater_Treasure. I don't see an obvious commonality, except that they all are Skyrim mods. I've successfully run Skyrim with these mods, including Dragonborn, so I know they do work together. Ideas ??