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I have to resurrect this topic again because I am stuck with the same issue. Tried anything to get it working but it seems this quest is utterly broken since the update to the next gen version. even the addfact command in the console doesn't do anything despite me trying to add the commands addfact(sq312_fdb_ves_end) and addfact(sq312_fact_vey_alive) Is there anyone who knows a solution that doesn't include to completely restart the game in an earlier version?

I was able to solve the issue. It had me suspicious when I didn't start the game with SKSE itself but with the original exe-file. Turned out it was indeed a SKSE related issue. When removing all files from the Data\SKSE\Plugins folder I was able to start the game with all my mods again. With further tests I was able to identify the file SkyUtilities.dll as culprit. Deleting it restored my game to full functionality again :)

So originally I was able to play my game with more then 200 mods installed. Lately I have a very weird issue where when I load more then 113 mods in my game the game will not start anymore but freeze during the start-up. It has been a few years since last I played Skyrim and in the meantime I haven't touched neither the game nor any of my mods. On my computer the only thing changed was the graphics card (to a newer model) so I asume there is no physical cause for the issue. The reason to try and start Skyrim again was me realizing that some of the mods I am using were updated, so I installed the latest version of SkyTEST, ORS_SolitudeGate and Milk. A few others were just to come when I thought maybe I should test if the game is still running. And all of a sudden - crash. So I began my trouble-shooting... deactivated mods, changes the load order, reinstalled older versions of the mods... nothing worked. And now I reached the limit where - for no logic reason at all - I cannot start the game if more then 113 mods are activated no matter which mods I activate. New installing of a mod actually reduced the limit of mods being loaded to only 112, rewriting the load order using wyre bash reduced it even more to now only 110 mods. This is a huge step back (I have about 218 mods normally) so I would really apprechiate your help since I never stumbled upon such an issue ever before and I also have no explanation whatsoever for it. Here follows the list of my mods in the loading order I was using so far: hdtHighHeel.esm ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm BBLuxurySuite.esm RiverHelm.esm SkyMoMod.esm RaceCompatibility.esm UndergroundBathhouse.esm ors_morthalpain.esm ORS_SolitudeGate.esm daymoyl.esm moonpath.esm SexLab.esm SexLabAroused.esm SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp 00SexyHouseVendors.esp 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp AchieveThat.esp adalmatar.esp Amanda.esp AMatterOfTime.esp AOM.esm AOM.esp AOS.esp Aradia Kato Outfit.esp armored skeleton.esp armored-horses.esp AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp ASX_Spells.esp AtronachForgeFix.esp Ayumi Set.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp bathhouse.esp battleflute.esp BBLSapachii.esp BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp BBLSspouse.esp BBLSVisitors.esp BBLuxurySuiteClassier.esp BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp BecomeKingOfRiverHelm.esp Birdsofskyrim.esp Cloaks - No Imperial.esp Convenient Horses.esp CookingAlchemy.esp Craftable Unique Set.esp CraftablePantysCBBEv3M.esp d2Helmets.esp DarkAtronach.esp DarkDiciple DBreplacer.esp Darklilith.esp DarkSisterhoodByNausicaa.esp deadlytrolls.esp Demothris.esp Destructible_bottles.esp Devious Deviants.esp DragonCombatOverhaul.esp DragonSoulsToPerks.esp Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp Dynasty Armor.esp Ebony Samurai Plate Armor.esp EroticStatues - Understone Keep (Markarth).esp Evil Lair of Hydra.esm ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp FireAndIceOverhaul.esp FishingInSkyrim.esp FlameAtronachArmor.esp FNISSexyMove.esp Footprints.esp Frost_Elves.esp FullBootForKKSA.esp Gatti12Jewelry.esp geralt_ravenarmor_v02b.esp Ghosu - Horker Bow.esp Golda.esp GreenWaterFix_Compatible.esp HarvestOverhaul.esp HentaiMaxiArmor.esp Hot Volcanic Water.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp hunter.esp Immersive Weapons.esp ImportantInformationOverhaul.esp improvedfish.esp inconsequential npcs.esp Insanity's Pale Blade.esp JackshCelineArmor.esp jaws.esp JaxonzMapMarkers.esp KURESE Gloria conversion.esp Lady Elegance.esp LB Lady Arcana.esp lc_immersiveloot.esp LeiFangAndChristieByNausicaa.esp Liberation Beacon.esp LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp Lock Overhaul.esp LoversComfort.esp ly witch.esp Lyla.esp MageBackpack_byTumbajamba.esp magicka sabers.esp manny_Status.esp Masters of Death - Sicarius Armor (Standalone).esp mayatola UFF.esp Michelle.esp Milk.esp Misha.esp mixedunittactics.esp Monster Wars.esp moonpath_questdata.esp Morning Fogs.esp naiadracebyden.esp NaviRace.esp NDlifeguard.esp Neithteam Warpaint.esp Neo's Devilmaid2.esp Neo's Scouter Set.esp NewmillerCasualBikiniUNP2.esp NewmillerShoesUNP.esp NewVampChainsCuirass.esp NoNakedComments.esp Order My Items.esp ORS_ChaptersLinker.esp PhysicsImpactDamageFix.esp Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp PumpingIron.esp R18Pn - Argent Iron Armor.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp Rainbows.esp RBB Long Boats.esp RBB Row Boats.esp Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp RealisticRoomRental.esp Realistische Trankgewichte.esp reaper's the dark tower.esp Remodeled Armor.esp Salome.esp SaltSacks.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp ScarletDawnArmor.esp Schwertleite Set.esp SED7-CBBE3_SILVEREDITION_femaleLabiaPiercings.esp SED7-CBBE3_UNIEDITIONfemaleNipplePiercing_SwordNShield.esp seducesets.esp SexLab Cumshot.esp SexLab Romance.esp SexLab STDs.esp SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp SexLabDefeat.esp SexLab_DibellaCult.esp Sextreme-All_FF.esp Sharks.esp ShootingStars.esp SilverArmor.esp skyforgedWeapons.esp RND_SkyMoMod-Patch.esp SkyMoMod_lists.esp Skyrim - Director's Cut.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp SkyUI.esp smeltdown_ingots_osr.esp Sneak Tools.esp Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp Solitude A City Of Trade.esm SPIKE.esm StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp Syerscote.esp teraarmors-cbbebynausicaa.esp Tes Arena - Skyrim Frontier Fortress.esp The Coenaculi.esp The Dance of Death.esp The Golden Touch.esp TheDomain.esp thefrontier.esp throwingweapons.esp Tropical Skyrim -- Birds.esp TSLCF1.esp TS_RedSlickBikini.esp ub_bbls_merge_classier.esp ub_invite_any_npc.esp ub_tapestry.esp Unique Unique.esp Unique Uniques.esp UNP Jewelry Variants V-2.esp UNP Jewelry.esp UnreadBooksGlow.esp Vaszumriek.esp vImmersiveBeds.esp voidLetsGetNaked.esp WATER - Get Wet.esp WATER.esp WaterPlants.esp Water_RND-Patch.esp WetandCold.esp Windfull Skyrim.esp Witch Elf Race.esp Yield.esp ZazResources.esp zSkyrim-NPC-Conversion.esp zSkyMoWa_RND_RWS-Patch.esp _clumod.esp SkyMoMod Extras Collectables.esp RND_RWS-Patch.esp RRRE-Moonpath-Patch.esp RWS_TropicalBirds-Patch.esp tundra defense.esp I hope you can help me make my game start and run again as it used to be years ago :sad:

I have the same f***ing problem. Was trying to install Skyrim online but couldn't get it to work because of this bug. I spend several hours in finding the source of the bug but was unable to get anywhere near it. The problem is, even when installing mods and the game works fine - after some tries I get the bug and when I deinstall the mod I installed last, the bug still remains. I often have to go back many steps until it is solved again. So I'm clueless which mod is really causing the issue. I deleted all of the following mods by suspicion and the starting of my game now works sort of stable (at the moment): Tropical Birds Skyrim School of Witchcraft and Wizardry ZazResources and all Sexlab Mods so far. I can further confirm that the following mods are causing the issue on my system with a very high chance (above 90 % ): Convenient Horses Helgen Reborn Race Menu Realistic Needs and Diseases and Sneak Tools

Well, not exactly the sollution I was looking for but at least it works. So thank you anyway :)

The problem still exists. With other clothing mods too. Can't add any new armor as default outfit for NPCs. The NPCs will only be naked. Here is what I did so far: 1.) Added a completely new Outfit with the CK. I) I created a new outfit II) I added the armor parts I wanted the NPC to wear to that outfit III) I added the outfit to that NPC -> NPC is displayed correctly in the CK. Ingame he/she ist still naked. 2.) Edited an already existing outfit with the CK I) added some of the new armor parts to an already existing outfit II) added that outfit to another NPC -> NPC is displayed correctly in the CK. Ingame he/she would only wear the stuff which has been in the outfit from before. 3.) Replaced armor parts I) replaced some of the meshes from working armor with new ones -> Again the f*cking NPC is displayed correctly. Ingame he/she would only wear the replaced meshes without any problem. All other armor parts are still whown as naked. This has happened to me now with The Sorceress Armor, the Ashara Imperial Outfit and the Midnight Breed Armor. Can't figure out why the hell it wouldn't work.

What about Tundra defense? That mod lets you build your outpost/town anywhere you want it.

Hello there, I have a request to make. The CK offers the function to give NPCs sleeping outfits. But none NPC uses them which is very sad. Well, I suck at writing scripts and all my tries so far resulted in game errors and crashes so I wanted to ask: Is there someone out there who would write a script that makes all NPCs change their clothes when sleeping? It would give the game more immersion and also a wider variety of armor/clothes to use. Some of you already did various sleeping-mods but nothing which included such a feature. I heard by the way that this was a regular function in Oblivion. Some mod come near such a function. For example the Bathing Beauties Luxury Suite uses a script to strip NPCs naked when they go to bed in the Luxury Suite or in the bath-tub. So there should be a way to do something similar with all other beds, too. Could anyone please help me?

I'll do so but until now there was no solution left. Looks like I'll have to work for a replacement myself. Might as well post here again as soon as one or more mods have cleaned navmeshes.

Nobody knows a solution to the problem?!? :(

I don't use both for good reasons. Warzones was one of the most instable mods ever and made my game crash already at the first test. So I deactivated it before even making a savegame with it and that was already one and a half year ago. And Immersive Creatures were never on my PC. Didn't need that one since I habe SkyTest and RealWildlife. But you guys helped me a lot already. I'll try to solve the problem with the nasmeshes. And well - when I can find the time anytime I'll also try the reinstall with Wrye Bash.

Yes, I don't have any of the DLCs. That's why I only use Mods which clearly don't need the DLCs. Some of them are not up to date - that's because I don't want to buy the DLCs. So I have to stick to the versions which only use Skyrim.esm and Update.esm. By the way: Would I use a mod which needas a DLC, the game would crash instantly after the start. I don't have that problem ^^ That may be one problem. I wasn't able to solve that so far. Some mod authors said that is normal, others weren't able to do something about it and some said they will make an update. It's a pain in the ass with these navmeshs. Compability patch for or an audio overhaul!? I doesn't do anything else but change some of the sound effects ingame. Why need a compability patch for that? None of my other mods touches the audio files so far o.O I this chase, BOSS is completely wrong. I'm using the latest CBBE-body and had all armors working so far. From the ones made for UNP, I use only the ones which are either compatible with CBBE or don't have to many glitches. They are all tested one by one so that couldn't be a problem. My bad - I must have missed that :confused:

Here you have my BOSS log: and also the unrecognized mods:

Hey there I've a very annoying problem. I recently downloaded the Sorceress Armor for CBBE and it works fine so far. Then I thought I could add it to a few NPCs with the Creation Kit. So I created a new file with this armor as master file, created an outfit with the armor parts in it and added it to the desired NPCs. But instead of wearing this armor they now are all naked. I even checked their inventory via console: They don't even have the armor in it. So the next thing I did was adding the part of the armor one by one in their inventory. Still the same result. The last thing I tried was adding the armor directly in its esp-file to the NPCs by creating the outfit there and then adding it to the NPCs. But nope - all I get is striptease. WTF!? What ist wrong with this s***? Why don't they wear that armor? Not even have it in their inventory? Did I do something wrong or is the CK just completely useless!?

Sorry, I forgot about that. The question might be a bit noobish but: Where do I find the BOSS log? I'm still not used to that software :-/ And yes, I used Wrye Bash but where do I find something about scripts!? I didn't know it could do that. It only shows me my mods, my savegames (which all have orange color) and changes in the Skyrim.ini but not more o.O

Well this crappy forum wouldn't let me post my papyrus log. So I can't copy it in here. I tried it for already three days but every time this s*** of a forum is freezing. Sorry guys, but I don't know how to fix that -.- In the meantime I was able to fix the issue with the game crashing when trying to loot animals. One of the compability-patches for Real Wildlife was messing with the leveled lists, causing a CTD whenever the game had to load one of the lists. Repairing the mod with the CK solved that one. Now there are still a few random crashes left. I'd like to post any of my logs here but the forum won't let me :-/ There is just one Script which produces for about 119093 errors (no joke, I counted them with Word to be sure). The Script is called "MannequinActivatorSCRIPT". The standard error of this script is the following: Error: Unable to call Is3DLoaded - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type stack: [None].MannequinActivatorSCRIPT.Is3DLoaded() - "<native>" Line ? [None].MannequinActivatorSCRIPT.OnCellAttach() - "MannequinActivatorSCRIPT.psc" Line 76

It's not even close to 3.1. The maximum I got was 2.030 and lower. By the Way: SkyTEST und Real Wildlife are compatible. I bashed them myself and reprogrammed them until there were no issues left. And I already did like you suggested but the results are illogical. Sometimes a mod is valid sometimes it isn't. As I said, when I remove about 120 mods (irrelevant which i remove) the save works again. EDIT: Okay, I could nail the problem with my game crashing when saved down to the mod frostfall. But I still get crashs when I try to loot some animals or bandits. Maybe something with the leveled lists is wrong...