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    excess esp. file crashing game on startup

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    Posted

    goddamnit i have hit another dead end

    i have uninstalled FCOM and replaced it with OOO, but i cannot make my game run OOO

    All the other mods work (game runs without OOO), but upon activating OOO it crashes on startup

    Am i missing some patch here?

    Active Mod Files:

    00  Oblivion.esm
01  Jog_X_Mod.esm
02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.36]
03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]
04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.38]
05  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 6.0.7]
06  CM Partners.esm
07  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.2]
08  Knights - Revelation.esm
09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.4]
0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.2]
++  USIPS Additional Changes.esp
0C  Better Cities .esp  [Version 6.0.5]
0D  LOADING SCREENS.esp
0E  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.36]
0F  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.36]
10  Skyrimized Water HD eng.esp  [Version 1.8.]
++  Skyrimized Waters HD - SI Addon.esp
11  Idle Dialogue.esp  [Version 1.3]
++  Symphony of Violence.esp
12  ElzMoreVoice.esp
13  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]
14  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.36]
15  DialogTweaks.esp  [Version 1.0]
16  personality_idles4.esp
17  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
18  FF_Real_Thirst.esp
19  C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp
1A  Streamline 3.1.esp
1B  DLCHorseArmor.esp
1C  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
1D  DLCOrrery.esp
1E  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
1F  DLCVileLair.esp
20  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
21  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
22  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
23  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
++  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
24  Fighters Guild Scalemail Full.esp
++  nu_dwarven_f_cuirass.esp
25  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp
26  Daedric Lord Armor.esp
++  Daedric Lord-Classic Bound Armor.esp
27  DLCThievesDen.esp
28  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
29  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]
2A  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
2B  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp
2C  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.38]
2D  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]
2E  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]
2F  C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp
30  Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp  [Version 1.03]
31  Trade and Commerce.esp
32  Trade and Commerce Update.esp  [Version 1.01]
33  Ash's Odd Jobs II.esp
34  BHC_Expanded.esp  [Version 1.2]
35  HackdirtTheDeepOnes.esp
36  Clamshell_Cottage_v1.5_COBL.esp
37  EM_RedRoseManor.esp  [Version 2.0]
38  Fighters Guild Quests.esp
39  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp  [Version 2.18]
3A  KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp
3B  Mages Guild Quests.esp
3C  MTCExpandedVillages.esp
3D  Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp
3E  MTCVillages-LakeRumarePatch.esp
3F  SecretOfTheGlyphs.esp  [Version 1.3]
40  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.6]
41  thievery.esp
42  thievery - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]
43  UnfathomedTower.esp
44  Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp
45  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.5.6]
46  LGD's Arena Enhanced.esp
47  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
48  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
49  DLCFrostcrag.esp
4A  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
4B  DLCFrostcragReborn.esp  [Version 1.4.7]
4C  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
4D  Knights.esp
4E  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
4F  Knights - Revelation.esp
50  SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp  [Version 1.30]
++  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp
51  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Unofficial Patch.esp
++  Better Unique Items.esp
52  RTT.esp
53  RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
54  KORE- Blood Drinker Umbra.esp
55  The Lost Spires.esp
56  MTCVillages-LostSpiresPatch.esp
57  MannimarcoRevisited.esp
58  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]
59  Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp
5A  DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp  [Version 1.2.6]
5B  ReclaimSancreTor.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
5C  Kragenir'sDeathQuest-RSTpatch.esp  [Version 1.1]
5D  Roads of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.0]
5E  ROC+Fighters Guild Quests.esp
5F  ROC+Shadowcrest Vineyard Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
60  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.5]
61  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.43]
62  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp  [Version 1.0]
63  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion_HOTD_Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
64  Faregyl.esp  [Version 2.0.11]
65  MTCVillages-FaregylPatch.esp
66  PTMudwater.esp
67  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
68  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - OOO FCOM patch by Xtudo.esp
69  ImpeREALForts+LostSpires Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
6A  ImpeREAL Empire Unique Cities - Sutch.esp
6B  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]
6C  RR - LTPDPatch.esp
++  Real Lava v1.2.esp
++  Arena Agronak always aggressive.esp
6D  Better Dungeons.esp
6E  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]
6F  GuildAdvancement.esp
++  LustyArgonianMaidContinued.esp
70  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]
++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]
71  StarX Vampire Deaths.esp
72  tbskGuardsFeatures.esp
73  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]
74  StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp  [Version 2.12]
++  Starx-OVB Patch.esp
75  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]
76  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]
77  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_VanillaSpells.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]
78  RshAlchemy.esp
79  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]
7A  CompanionFergus.esp  [Version 2.0]
7B  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 4.04]
7C  Arren.esp
7D  Companion Neeshka.esp
7E  Valtierro_B1.esp
7F  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
++  1em_Vilja_OCOV2_By_jet4571.esp
80  Sounds of Cyrodil patches.esp
81  ElzMoreVoice - Original Voice Replacer.esp
82  Unlikley immersion compilation.esp
83  NPC comlilationn.esp
84  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 6.0.7]
85  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 6.0.7]
86  All Natural Real Lights - Better Cities IC Patch.esp
87  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
88  Better Cities - Dark Brotherhood Chronicles.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
89  Better Cities Skingrad - Roads of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
8A  Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
8B  Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 6.0.7]
8C  Better Cities Chorrol - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
8D  Better Cities IC Arena - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
8E  Better Cities Skingrad - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
8F  Better Cities Full - OOO.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
90  Better Imperial City - OOO.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
91  Better Cities IC Arboretum - Kragenir's Death Quest.esp  [Version 6.0.7]
92  Better Cities - Thievery.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
93  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
94  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
95  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 6.0.7]
++  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
96  Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
97  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion BC Bravil.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
98  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion BC Bruma.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
99  Better Cities Chorrol - Oblivifall Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
9A  Better Cities Skingrad - Oblivifall Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
9B  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.36]
9C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

    excess esp. file crashing game on startup

    in Discussion

    Posted

    nah i rebuilt it

    that's the problem, i cannot remember the plugins i activated before the crashes (i have not used oblivion lately)

    as far as i remember they were generic patch names for either BC and UL. I reinstalled BC and UL (newer versions) but it didn't help

    might be patches included outside in other mods, not BC/UL

    excess esp. file crashing game on startup

    in Discussion

    Posted

    ty for your reply

    Wrye is giving me nothing, as nothing color - related changed betwen my last playable build (it was literaly me ticking 2 or 3 genericaly named patches or something)

    I have cared not to activate all natural - indoor weather filter (he is red and missing a master- open cities something- that i do not use)

    Other than that i have cut at least 25% of other mods out of load order in hope of better clarity (there isn't so many mods as many UL and BC patches) perhaps leaving a stray patch for a mod

    -for example there is Oblivifall lousing my religion merged patch, and seperate city patch - but doesn't change the crash

    any fresh eyes are welcome

    excess esp. file crashing game on startup

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    Posted

    If anyone could take a peek at my esp list, i seem to have activated an unwanted patch or other addition esp. for one of the mods,

    as i could have loaded the game before, and now it crashes on startup. I cannot remember the exact file, and would appreciate fresh

    eyes on this.

    Active Mod Files:

    00  oblivion.esm
01  Jog_X_Mod.esm
02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.36]
03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]
04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]
05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]
06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.35Beta]
07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.8b1]
08  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
0A  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 6.0.7]
0B  CURP_Controller.esm
0C  CM Partners.esm
0D  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.2]
0E  Knights - Revelation.esm
0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.4]
**  UOPS Additional Changes.esp
10  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
11  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.2]
++  USIPS Additional Changes.esp
12  Better Cities .esp  [Version 6.0.5]
13  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]
14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]
15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
16  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
17  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]
++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
18  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
**  LOADING SCREENS.esp
19  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.36]
1A  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.36]
++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]
1B  Skyrimized Water HD eng.esp  [Version 1.8.]
++  Skyrimized Waters HD - SI Addon.esp
1C  Idle Dialogue.esp  [Version 1.3]
++  Symphony of Violence.esp
1D  ElzMoreVoice.esp
1E  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]
1F  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.36]
20  DialogTweaks.esp  [Version 1.0]
21  personality_idles4.esp
22  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
23  FF_Real_Thirst.esp
24  C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp
25  Streamline 3.1.esp
26  DLCHorseArmor.esp
27  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
28  DLCOrrery.esp
29  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
2A  DLCVileLair.esp
2B  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
2C  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
2D  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
2E  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
++  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
2F  Andragorn_Weapons_Armors.esp
30  Fighters Guild Scalemail Full.esp
++  nu_dwarven_f_cuirass.esp
31  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp
32  Daedric Lord Armor.esp
++  Daedric Lord-Classic Bound Armor.esp
33  DLCThievesDen.esp
34  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
35  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]
36  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
37  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp
38  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
39  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
3A  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]
3B  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
3C  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.35Beta]
3D  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]
3E  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]
3F  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb8b1]
40  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8]
++  FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]
41  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
42  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Adventurers.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
43  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b7]
44  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
45  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
46  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creatures Expansion.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - RadiantAITweaks.esp
++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
47  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
48  C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp
49  Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp  [Version 1.03]
4A  TalosBridgeGateHouse.esp
4B  Trade and Commerce.esp
4C  Trade and Commerce Update.esp  [Version 1.01]
4D  Better Abandoned House.esp  [Version 2.0]
4E  Better Benirus Manor.esp  [Version 4.72-Cobl-SI]
4F  Better Benirus Manor - AN Patch.esp  [Version 4.72-Natural]
50  Better Benirus Manor - RL Patch.esp  [Version 4.72]
51  BHC_Expanded.esp  [Version 1.2]
52  HackdirtTheDeepOnes.esp
53  EM_RedRoseManor.esp  [Version 2.0]
54  Fighters Guild Quests.esp
55  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp  [Version 2.18]
56  KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp
57  Mages Guild Quests.esp
58  MTCExpandedVillages.esp
59  Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp
5A  MTCVillages-LakeRumarePatch.esp
5B  SecretOfTheGlyphs.esp  [Version 1.3]
5C  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.6]
5D  thievery.esp
5E  Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp
5F  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.5.6]
60  LGD's Arena Enhanced.esp
61  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
62  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
63  DLCFrostcrag.esp
64  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
65  DLCFrostcragReborn.esp  [Version 1.4.7]
66  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
67  Knights.esp
68  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
69  Knights - Revelation.esp
6A  SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp  [Version 1.30]
6B  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Unofficial Patch.esp
++  Better Unique Items.esp
6C  RTT.esp
6D  RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
6E  KORE- Blood Drinker Umbra.esp
6F  The Lost Spires.esp
70  MTCVillages-LostSpiresPatch.esp
71  MannimarcoRevisited.esp
72  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]
73  Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp
++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
74  DarkBrotherhoodChronicles.esp  [Version 1.2.6]
75  ReclaimSancreTor.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
76  Kragenir'sDeathQuest-RSTpatch.esp  [Version 1.1]
77  Roads of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.0]
78  ROC+Fighters Guild Quests.esp
79  ROC+Shadowcrest Vineyard Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
7A  MTCEV-RoC Patch.esp
7B  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.5]
7C  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.43]
7D  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp  [Version 1.0]
7E  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion_HOTD_Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
7F  Faregyl.esp  [Version 2.0.11]
80  MTCVillages-FaregylPatch.esp
81  PTMudwater.esp
82  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
83  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
84  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
85  xulTheHeath.esp
86  xulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
87  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
88  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
89  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
8A  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]
8B  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
8C  KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
8D  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.5]
8E  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
8F  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
90  DarkBrotherhoodChronicles-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
91  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
92  ROC+Ancient Redwoods.esp  [Version 1.0]
93  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
94  KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
95  RST+Cloudtop Mountains.esp  [Version 1.1]
96  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
97  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
98  HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp
99  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
9A  KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
9B  xulPantherRiver.esp
9C  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
9D  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
9E  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]
9F  RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp  [Version 1.3.4]
A0  TalosGatehouse + ULImperialIsle.esp
A1  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
A2  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
A3  Cheydinhal Land Texture Fix UL.esp  [Version 2.0]
A4  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
A5  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
A6  ROC+UL Skingrad Outskirts Patch.esp
A7  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
A8  FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp
A9  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
AA  MTCExpandedVillages-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp  [Version 1.0a]
AB  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
AC  OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
AD  RST+Cliffs of Anvil.esp  [Version 1.2]
AE  Kragenir'sDeathQuest-RST-CliffsofAnvil Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
AF  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
B0  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
B1  OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
B2  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.2]
B3  KragenirsDeathQuest-EasternPeaks patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
B4  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
B5  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - OOO FCOM patch by Xtudo.esp
B6  ImpeREAL Forts + Lost Spires + Silverfish River Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
B7  ImpeREAL Empire Unique Cities - Sutch.esp
B8  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]
B9  RST+Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 1.1]
BA  RR - LTPDPatch.esp
BB  ROC+RR Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
++  Real Lava v1.2.esp
++  Arena Agronak always aggressive.esp
BC  Better Dungeons.esp
BD  GuildAdvancement.esp
++  LustyArgonianMaidContinued.esp
BE  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]
++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]
++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]
**  StarX Vampire Deaths.esp
BF  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]
C0  StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp  [Version 2.12]
C1  StarX VVR_OOO_FCOM Patch.esp
++  Starx-OVB Patch.esp
C2  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]
C3  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]
C4  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_VanillaSpells.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]
C5  RshAlchemy.esp
C6  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]
C7  CompanionFergus.esp  [Version 2.0]
C8  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 4.04]
C9  Arren.esp
CA  Arren-EntiusGorge patch.esp
CB  Companion Neeshka.esp
CC  Valtierro_B1.esp
CD  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
++  1em_Vilja_OCOV2_By_jet4571.esp
CE  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 6.0.7]
CF  Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 6.0.2]
D0  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 6.0.7]
D1  All Natural Real Lights - Better Cities IC Patch.esp
D2  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
D3  Better Cities - Dark Brotherhood Chronicles.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
D4  Better Cities Skingrad - Roads of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
D5  Better Cities IC Imperial Isle - Roads of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
D6  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 1.5]
D7  Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
D8  Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 6.0.7]
D9  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 1.5]
DA  Better Abandoned House - BC_OBC_UL Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]
DB  Better Cities Chorrol - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
DC  Better Cities IC Arena - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
DD  Better Cities Skingrad - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
DE  Better Cities Full - OOO.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
DF  Better Imperial City - OOO.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
E0  Better Cities IC Arboretum - Kragenir's Death Quest.esp  [Version 6.0.7]
E1  Better Cities Bravil - Unique Landscape Panther River patch.esp  [Version 1.5]
E2  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 1.5]
E3  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Snowdale.esp  [Version 1.5]
E4  Better Cities - Thievery.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
E5  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
E6  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
E7  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 6.0.7]
++  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
E8  Better Cities IC Waterfront - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 1.5]
E9  Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
++  FCOM_BetterCities-Bravil.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
EA  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion BC Full.esp  [Version 1.0]
EB  Better Cities Chorrol - Oblivifall Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
EC  Better Cities Skingrad - Oblivifall Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
ED  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.36]
EE  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
EF  NPC comlilationn.esp
F0  Unlikley immersion compilation.esp
F1  Sounds of Cyrodil patches.esp
F2  armors and clothes.esp
F3  ElzMoreVoice - Original Voice Replacer.esp

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    Posted

    a quick glance at better cities nexus page, they have taken down the patch for OMG,

    which i guess means either they are not planing further support for OMG, or they are making an updated patch for the latest versions of both mods (note in my last comment the versions that patch was created for are not the current ones for BC), in which case they are sure to test it and discover any potential problems.

     

    Like you said, there are some other minor conflicts appart form the land tears, and the more i think about it, the more OMG seems hard to make compatible with a mod of this size. It adds too much stuff outside the Academy architecture (quests,npcs, an underground vampire city ? :-/ ? ). So if it's not a city based mod, and i doubt all the effort is worth it at the end of the day. One is better off installing another oblivion game with giskard's mods, that is to separate the major architecture mods into giskard's and the BC group

     

    thank you for your assistance with this btw! :blush:

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    Posted · Edited by Executor64

    FIXED

    it appears Origins of the mages guild (version 7.3.1) is not compatible with Better Imperial city.esp

     

    First, if you want to avoid crashing the game upon loading you need to put Origins of Mages Guild.esp *after Better Imperial City.esp

    Once you have done that, the landmass of certain imperial city districts is deformed, regardless of the BC-OMG patch (for BC 5.3.0 and OMG 7.3),

    which is the only patch i have ever seen for the two mods.

     

    If anyone heard of a newer patch please let me know, otherwise be warned OMG 7.3.1 and Better Imperial City 5.4.0 dont play well,

    which is a shame since i do enjoy origins of the mages guild, and other giskard's work (although i understand he hasn't been releasing patches for other mods to start with)

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    Posted · Edited by Executor64

    Yes i understand what you are saying, and i think so as well, but so far it is a slow process of putting all the pieces in the right place

     

    I use both mod managers, OMM for maybe 2-3 mods, NMM for archiving and categorizing mods and for "drop in data folder" mods, and the rest are Bash installers

     

    I must see about that separate better cities, if it doesn't tear down too many patches

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    Posted

    yes i read mod descriptions

     

    I am not asking for someone to replicate the issue or anything,

    I have made Better Cities work with all these mods in the past

    (just tested the old mods list from previous pc and they do not work on this new install)

     

    I have no issues in the game apart from city interior cells having altered ground as i mentioned before, no other issues...

    thank you for your interest in the matter

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    Posted

    was avoiding that particular method of unplugging one by one

    also,

    start building the game up from a fresh install

    it IS a game built from a fresh install (on my new pc), its a fresh install of my regular mods + oco2 and some quest mods i hadn't had the time to play before.

    also, im having doubts about the new dungeon mods, adense epic dungeon, sundered keep and forgotten realm... not a single UL orBC patch on their nexus pages smells of conflicts

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    Posted

    thank you for the info, i will try that out.

    For the record though, i have created a better city game on previous pc with zero land tears

    it was beautiful snif :,(

    the fault always lies in some tiny changes to the city streets by other mods, which i have solved in the past by lowering better cities esp in load order,

    something i cannot do now because after certan point down the load order the game crashes after loading game. Must be the massive quest mods but no way to be sure

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    Posted

    Anyone willing to take a look at this mod list

     

    Active Mod Files:

    00  Oblivion.esm
01  Knights - Revelation.esm
02  CM Partners.esm
03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]
04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.35Beta]
05  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]
06  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]
07  Jog_X_Mod.esm
08  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.8b1]
09  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.4.1]
0A  CURP_Controller.esm
0B  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
0C  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]
0D  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
0E  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.2]
0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.4]
++  USIPS Additional Changes.esp
10  UOPS Additional Changes.esp
11  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
12  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.2]
13  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
14  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
15  DLCThievesDen.esp
16  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
17  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
18  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
19  DLCVileLair.esp
1A  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
1B  DLCHorseArmor.esp
1C  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
1D  DLCOrrery.esp
1E  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
1F  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
20  DLCFrostcrag.esp
21  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
22  Knights.esp
23  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
24  Better Cities .esp
++  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 5.4.1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - RadiantAITweaks.esp
++  Real Lava v1.2.esp
25  ElzMoreVoice.esp
26  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
27  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]
++  Arena Agronak always aggressive.esp
28  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]
29  Idle Dialogue.esp  [Version 1.3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  LustyArgonianMaidContinued.esp
++  Symphony of Violence.esp
++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Adventurers.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
2A  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]
2B  RshAlchemy.esp
2C  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.35Beta]
2D  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.34]
2E  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.4.1]
2F  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
++  nu_dwarven_f_cuirass.esp
30  LOADING SCREENS.esp
31  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp
32  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.0]
33  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
++  Skyrimized Waters HD - SI Addon.esp
**  StarX Vampire Deaths.esp
34  Streamline 3.1.esp
35  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
36  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.4]
37  Better Dungeons.esp
38  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb8b1]
++  FCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
39  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
3A  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]
3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Mummies.esp
3C  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.4.0]
3D  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
3E  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
3F  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
40  ReclaimSancreTor.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
41  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
42  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
43  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
44  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]
45  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
46  Roads of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.0]
47  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
48  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.43]
49  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
4A  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
4B  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]
4C  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]
4D  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creatures Expansion.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
4E  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]
4F  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
50  xulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
51  HoarfrostCastle.esp
++  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
52  MTCExpandedVillages.esp
53  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]
54  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.5.6]
55  NPC comlilationn.esp
++  FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]
56  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]
++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
57  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
58  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
59  HackdirtTheDeepOnes.esp
5A  DLCFrostcragReborn.esp  [Version 1.4.7]
5B  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.5]
5C  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
5D  xulTheHeath.esp
5E  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 7.3.1]
5F  StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp  [Version 2.12]
60  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.34]
61  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
62  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
63  The Lost Spires.esp
64  GlenvarCastle.esp
65  Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp  [Version 1.03]
66  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
67  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
68  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
69  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
6A  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
6B  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
6C  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp  [Version 2.18]
6D  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
6E  Knights - Revelation.esp
6F  Sounds of Cyrodil patches.esp
70  xulPantherRiver.esp
71  FF_Real_Thirst.esp
72  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.34]
73  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp
74  RST+Cliffs of Anvil.esp  [Version 1.2]
75  Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp
76  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp  [Version 1.0]
77  Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp
78  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]
++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++  FCOM_BetterCities-Bravil.esp  [Version 5.4.1]
++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
79  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.6]
7A  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
7B  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
7C  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]
7D  BHC_Expanded.esp  [Version 1.2]
7E  Faregyl.esp  [Version 2.0.11]
7F  Better Benirus Manor.esp  [Version 4.72-Cobl-SI]
80  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  Better Unique Items.esp
81  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]
82  Mages Guild Quests.esp
83  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.6]
84  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]
85  MannimarcoRevisited.esp
86  DialogTweaks.esp  [Version 1.0]
87  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]
88  Better Cities - OMG.esp
++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_VanillaSpells.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  Daedric Lord-Classic Bound Armor.esp
89  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]
8A  Valtierro_B1.esp
8B  Better Benirus Manor - AN Patch.esp  [Version 4.72-Natural]
8C  Better Abandoned House.esp  [Version 2.0]
8D  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
8E  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
8F  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8]
90  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]
91  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
92  MTCVillages-LakeRumarePatch.esp
93  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
94  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts - OOO FCOM patch by Xtudo.esp
95  TheForgottenRealm.esp
96  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3]
97  Fighters Guild Quests.esp
98  StarX VVR_OOO_FCOM Patch.esp
++  Starx-OVB Patch.esp
99  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp  [Version 5.3.0]
9A  LGD's Arena Enhanced.esp
9B  Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp
9C  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]
9D  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 1.4]
9E  ShadowfangKeep.esp
9F  GuildAdvancement.esp
A0  MTCExpandedVillages-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
A1  TalosBridgeGateHouse.esp
A2  personality_idles4.esp
A3  RegionReviveLakeRumare-ImperialIsle patch.esp  [Version 1.3.4]
A4  wb_TBG_RR-LR_UL-II_patch.esp
A5  HoarfrostCastle-LushWoodlands patch.esp
A6  thievery.esp
A7  HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp
A8  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
A9  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b7]
AA  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion BC Full.esp  [Version 1.0]
AB  Better Cities - All Natural.esp
AC  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion_HOTD_Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
AD  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
AE  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp
AF  RST+Cloudtop Mountains.esp  [Version 1.1]
B0  EM_RedRoseManor.esp  [Version 2.0]
B1  OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
B2  ROC+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
B3  RTT.esp
B4  RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.1]
B5  Unlikley Compilation + KDQ standalone.esp
B6  Better Benirus Manor - RL Patch.esp  [Version 4.72]
B7  KragenirsDeathQuest-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp  [Version 2.0]
B8  SunderedKeep.esp
B9  ROC+Shadowcrest Vineyard Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
BA  RST+Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 1.1]
BB  FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp
BC  Skyrimized Water HD eng.esp  [Version 1.8.]
BD  Trade and Commerce.esp
BE  Arren.esp
BF  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 4.04]
C0  FCOM_OMG.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
C1  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]
++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]
++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]
++  1em_Vilja_OCOV2_By_jet4571.esp
C2  Daedric Lord Armor.esp
C3  MTCVillages-FaregylPatch.esp
C4  Woodcutters_Cabin_COBL.esp
C5  RomancingAhnassi.esp
C6  ImpeREAL Forts + Lost Spires + Silverfish River Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
C7  PTMudwater.esp
C8  armors and clothes.esp
C9  Fighters Guild Scalemail Full.esp
CA  Trade and Commerce Update.esp  [Version 1.01]
CB  ROC+Ancient Redwoods.esp  [Version 1.0]
CC  TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp
CD  Kragenir'sDeathQuest-RSTpatch.esp  [Version 1.1]
CE  thievery - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]
CF  OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
D0  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 5.3.0]
D1  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 1.3]
D2  ImpeREAL Empire Unique Cities - Sutch.esp
D3  SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp  [Version 1.30]
D4  ROC+UL Skingrad Outskirts Patch.esp
D5  Clamshell_Cottage_v1.5_COBL.esp
D6  CompanionFergus.esp  [Version 2.0]
D7  ElzMoreVoice - Original Voice Replacer.esp
D8  VampireCompanion.esp
D9  MTCEV-RoC Patch.esp
DA  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 5.3.0]
DB  KORE- Blood Drinker Umbra.esp
DC  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]
DD  Arren-EntiusGorge patch.esp
DE  Better Abandoned House - BC_OBC_UL Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]
DF  SecretOfTheGlyphs.esp  [Version 1.2]
E0  KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp
E1  MTCVillages-LostSpiresPatch.esp
E2  ROC+Romancing Ahnassi Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
E3  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
E4  ROC+RR Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
E5  Better Cities - Thievery.esp
E6  Cheydinhal Land Texture Fix UL.esp  [Version 2.0]
E7  Companion Neeshka.esp
E8  ImpeREALForts+LostSpires Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
E9  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
EA  Andragorn_Weapons_Armors.esp
EB  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Panther River patch.esp  [Version 1.4]
EC  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
ED  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]
EE  ROC+Fighters Guild Quests.esp
EF  KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
F0  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

     

    Cant get Better cities full.esp and Better imperial cities.esp in the right spot

    LOOT sorted the mods above, but all cities and imperial city have land tears and altered landmass

    http://static-1.nexusmods.com/15/mods/101/images/16513-1-1289769826.jpg

     

    Tried moving manualy and rebuilding bashed patch, but moving as far down to All natural.esp crashes game when loading

    Oblivion the realy waiting game!

    in Mod troubleshooting

    Posted · Edited by Executor64

    for the record my pc does not take 10 minutes to load oblivion startup window

    I do get a 10 minute *loading screen bcs of my 250+ mods if that is what you mean. But if you mean the oblivion autorun window with "play" "data files" "options" "uninstall"

    i can tell you 1 thing:

    Install OBSE (oblivion scrip extender) by following install guide (as i remember pretty easy)

    then launch the game *not with oblivion shortcut, but with *obse_loader.exe that is in your data files (you can create a shortcut to desktop). When

    you run the game with obse_loader it immediately goes to loading screen and after that the main menu (the one with "continue" "new game" "exit" ect)

    Francesco's Optional New Creatures add-on.esm crashes my game and

    in Mod troubleshooting

    Posted · Edited by Executor64

    If I load any game that was saved with my character outside, it also crashes to the desktop as soon as the load bar gets halfway through loading

     

     

     

    oblivion crashes where my new creatures are

     

     

    I had the very same problem about a year ago when my FCOM installation quest started :D

    I cannot recall exactly what caused it (so many things i did wrong back then)

     

    so the only thing i can advise you to do is read the FCOM step-by-step installation manual here

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8BTIQGFFmHPWmNCbVdSUXFDRXc/edit

     

    And in case youre new to fcom make sure you dont clean any of the FCOM files in tes4edit. ever.

    heres a link to the freshest fcom page if you need expert advice

    http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1475399-relz-fcom-convergence-10/

    game crash at sewer entrance, more precisely by walking away

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    Posted · Edited by Executor64

    BOSS is obsolete now. Use LOOT ( by the same people that made BOSS)

    then POST your actual LOOT log so we can see it.

     

     

    http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1IkGj5Ghgm4/hqdefault.jpg

     

     

     

    thank you for the info

     

    I did some further tests and that tutorial pop-up is a timed thing (you don't need to move at all). Do you get the same crash if you coc weye?

     

    Edit - Have you seen this thread http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/410624-francescos-optional-new-creatures-add-onesm-crashes-my-game-and-a-graphics-question/ ?

    I have just solved the problem by unplugging one of the few mods (out of 200+) that i neglected to check!

    im an idiot, it was "better daedric shrines" - merged version by Scot and Stratoi and it is an obvious conflict with UL mods, and apparently the 2 compatibility patches that i know of are not enough to fix these problems (or problems with other mods that i am not aware of at this moment).

    How does it cause an error while leaving the sewer entrance cell i have no idea but it's cover is blown and it will burn in my recycle bin for it's sins.

     

    Thank you for provided support and i apologize for my oversight Striker879.

    To answer your questions, checked and coc works fine now for all locations (Weye included) - before unplugging better daedric shrines coc made my screen dark!

    As for that post about Francesco's optional new creatures, i do not use that particular plugin as i do not like non lore monsters

    (yes i know MMM and War Cry have loads, and i plan to track down their "no XXX monsters".esp to eliminate them as well),

     

    As i do still run into random errors i will post my LOOT report here if nothing then to confirm the load order i have is correct

    As soon as "view last report" starts to work as atm im getting a blank page from LOOT.

    Also LOOT sorts my plugins in such a way that my game never gets past the loading screen :-/ so i am stuck with BOSS for the time being...

    (how is it that they didn't port their info on existing Oblivion mods if they are the same guys that made boss?)

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    Posted · Edited by Executor64

    hi again

    well BOSS doesn't know your mods if there is no info uploaded on your mods

    (thus my suggestion to use boss then manually move the stuff you made yourself)

     

    BUT turns out boss is obsolete now :O

    bben46 said now there's a better tool called LOOT by the same team that made boss! Link below

    http://loot.github.io/

     

    edit: you do use OMM or Wrye bash?

    When i say manually move mods i mean move them while in OMM and Wrye Bash (as data files on launcher simply put - sucks)

    game crash at sewer entrance, more precisely by walking away

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    Posted · Edited by Executor64

    i had a similar idea before (the pop up notice fault) but it turns out it doesn't do anything, and i can stand fight whatever in front of the sewer entrance and its proximity (and ofc 20 pop ups from tutorial and quest mods dont seem to bother the game)...

    but after leaving the cell instant crash and the coc command isnt doing anything

    ill try it again just to be sure

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    Posted · Edited by Executor64

    Until you get a more experienced evaluation of the problem:

     

    So personal advice, BOSS is the best way to build your load order. Im sure you know how it works, but

    also there are some options to make it recognize your mods in the future (and you can always run it, and then modify the load order after BOSS put everything in the ideal place)

     

    As for tes4edit, its pretty simple to use, a 2 step thing, as shown in the video below (the vid is slooow)

     

     

     

     

     

    But in order to know which mods are dirty you need... you guessed from the video above....BOSS (the report boss gives you after it sorts your mods has the info on what mod is dirty)

    Still expert opinion needed here for the actual load order, but i can tell you right now boss can make your life a bit easier

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    Posted · Edited by Executor64

    not close to being an expert here, but my load order sorted by BOSS doesn't look anything like that (the mods i use from your list that is)

    if you own your own mods, why don't you report them to BOSS so it knows where to put them

     

    other that that i cant tell you anything that you don't already know, like anything altering

    the city has potential of doing that, as well as any mod with not enough play testing by ppl (those vampire mods for example)

    Maybe it's dirty edits or something, cleaning all mods is relatively fast...

    as im stuck with an error myself

    hope you get yours solved

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