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Update: Currently, instant CTDs occur when I try to load my new saves. So I loaded a really old save inside of the Sanctuary root cellar (where I initially started). It seems to be working fine, I'll let you know if anything pops up.

Hey! It seems like Fallout 4 is now exclusively crashing when I die and load a save, or occasionally when I load a save from the menu. I was also wrong about my F4SE claim: the only mods I have installed that require it are PE and XDI, which have never caused issues for me in the past. Right now, I am taking your advice and backing up the "clean" saves and constantly keeping a report on when and where my game crashes. If anything interesting comes up, I'll let you know; but for now, Fallout 4 seems to be working fine... PS: The graphical mod I have installed that I believe change interior effects is the Enhanced Lights and FX, however, that is another mod which has given me no problems in the past. My guess is that it could have a bad reaction with the various interior mods I have installed.

Thank you for responding StormWolf! The helpful input is greatly appreciated. It seems as if the CTDs occur because of the location mod conflicts (and side note: drastically increase when using F4SE). I'll see if any of the map expansions have any compatibility issues; but, so far Vortex has not notified me. I could also re-check to see if there is any fixes or updates that could be downloaded for the aforementioned mods. As far as your question about my LO goes: I began a new game without any mods installed, and loaded my world in the Sanctuary Basement (with SMU). I hardsaved, then installed all of the larger mods I planned on using that might cause issues if I downloaded them in an exterior position. Another thing to note is that, with my load order, starting a new game is almost impossible (constant CTDs), and I usually have to revert to an old save (the basement in this case) for it to work. Thank you for your patience :)

Update: I have done everything that you guys mentioned and am still experiencing common CTDs. I notice that most of them also occur when I either load a save, when the game itself autosaves, when I load a cell, or when a large entity or object loads. I still don't know what to make of this. For now, I am certain it is not a LO problem... I'll try to start a new game and run some troubleshooting on various mods. For now, I am very sure it is the location mods, or mods that add new cells that are causing issues. I won't go quiet on this.

PS I believe the "test" esps are from the "Realistic Enjoyable Survival Tweaks (REST)" mod

Thank you for the suggestions guys. I tried using LOOT and it detected no conflicts, I did that a while ago. I will also check out the various redundant and incorrectly sorted plugins. The whack sorting might just be me and my laziness with downloading certain mods. Another thing I noticed was that most of my crashes occur around locations that have been added by other mods such as Beantown Interiors, Atomic World, and MoreXplore, just an observation...

Alright, it seemed like doing each step in this order helped fix the weird freezing and crashing at random intervals for a decent period of time: 1. Restart your computer 2. Run Fallout through the Steam Launcher (not F4SE) 3. Run it in windowed 4. Load an older save, at least 10 minutes before the crash 5. Exit to desktop 6. Run it again, this time through the F4SE launcher Although this might not look like an "official" fix, this is the step-by-step process I went through every time it crashed or froze and my game ran stable for a decently long game session. But yeah, I'll check out the Conquest patches. My specs in case it is still relevant: CPU: Ryzen r7 2700 | RAM: 32gb ddr4 3200 | GPU: gtx 1070ti

Hello, I have recently downloaded around 150 new mods to Fallout 4, most of which are smaller "quality of life" mods. However, I have a few large expansion and environment mods which could be causing issues. The main issue I am noticing is a crash to desktop at random intervals of time and sometimes even a complete freeze of my computer if it stops responding. Here is my load order: Fallout4.esmDLCRobot.esmDLCworkshop01.esmDLCCoast.esmDLCworkshop02.esmDLCworkshop03.esmDLCNukaWorld.esmTrueStormsFO4.esmHUDFramework.esmDEF_WIDGETS_CORE.esmArmorKeywords.esmLoads.esmNewCalibers.espBerettaM9FS.eslXDI.esmcartman1975_warehouse.espAutomatron Protectrons Expanded.espSummonerOnlyBots.espOCDecorator - No Experience.espOCDispenser.espBetterSettlersNoLollygagging.espmso_sms.espS.H.I.T.espAllowWorkbenchDuringCombat.espMore Where That Came From Diamond City.espConceptCentaur.espQuad_RAWLauncher.espReload Sounds.espUSP 45.espVariousJunk.espItem Overhaul - Shipments.espManufacturingExtended.espCompactCrafting.espSCDC_v0.5.espRealistic Death Physics - ALL DLC.espReGrowth Overhaul 10.espValiusHDTextures4K.espMosin.espM2216.esp3dscopes-m2216.espDD_bleu_Ump_Extreme_Lore_friendly_edition.esp3dscopes-ump.esp3dscopes.espWeaponsmith Extended 2.esptest - deleveled items.esppipeshotty.espWOTC.espSOTS.espAR70 Assault Rifle.espArmorsmith Extended.espRandomized DC Guard Outfits.espLoreFriendlySurvivalChems.espUnique NPCs - Creatures and Monsters.espBTInteriors_Project.espThe_Prydwen_Overhaul.espAtomic World.espBTInt_Optimization.espMODaquatic.espGlowingSeaEXPANDED.espmoreXplore.espStm_DiamondCityExpansion.espConcordEXPANDED.espAEWS.espLoads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.espTrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsets.espTrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.espTrueStormsFO4-EarlierSunsetsFH.espTrueStormsFO4-FarHarborExtraRads.espTrueStormsFO4-GlowingSeaExtraRads.espSurvivalist GoBags-Chem Station.espClassic Fallout Music.espClassic Fallout Music NukaWorld.espClassic Fallout Music Far Harbor.espDEF_WIDGETS_SURVIVAL1.espBetterItemSorting-AID.esp3Vegas_SurvivalBeverages_version1A.espRadiant Clouds and Fogs.espK9TacticalHarness.espCrimsomrider's 1950s Feminine Outfits.espAmbient Wasteland.espBetterItemSorting-MISC.espBetterItemSorting-APPAREL.espClassic VATS.esptest - combat stealth.esptest - deleveled perks.esptest - perk tweaks.esptest - crafting tweaks.espSilentProtagonist.esptest - npc tweaks.espTrue Legendary Enemies.espMoreEnemies.espstrongerRobotsSynthsTurrets.esp0003 Survivalist Cabin 1.2.espMsAbominations.espMakeshiftHomes.espEli_Armour_Compendium.espThe Deadly Commonwealth Expansion.esptest - tweaked weapons.espHagenEXPANDED.espVertibirdOverhaulHackAndMark.espOCDecorator.espOCDecoratorDLC.espDeadlierDeathclaws.espMODspider.espSwampsEXPANDED.espFusion Gun.espJake'sMod.espFunctionalDisplays-Collectibles.espFunctionalDisplays.espFunctionalDisplays-MISC-VIS.espItem Overhaul.espBetterItemSorting-JUNK.espD.E.C.A.Y.espQuad_Accelerator.espehtyeci_MPX.espW.A.T.Minutemen.espNightstrikerCreatureMod.espAK74M.espVivid Waters.espBetter Explosives Redux.espMore Smarter Companions Mod.espMcMillanCS5.espBerettaM9FS.espEG7.espAk5C.espConquest.espChinaLakeandHolorifle.espTec-9.espHandmadeAntiMaterielRifle.espAR_DLC01.espF4NVServiceRifleRedux.espLAER.espWattzLaserGun.espSubmarine Base Echo.espGlock 17&18.espRealisticbullets-NC.espBetterItemSorting-WEAPONS.espSkibsWeapons-REDUX.espM1Garand.espLeeEnfieldNo4MkI.espFO4 NPCs Travel.espCommonwealthCritters.espHaxRPG7.espMTs255.espGS Benelli M3S90.espRU556.espHuntingShotgun.espFN-FAL.espBullpupBozar.espAK400.espMP7.espAQUILA.espP90.espGS Beretta PX4.espMP-412.espDOOM1911.esp3dscopes-cryophaser.espQuad_Fusillade.espDark of Commonwealth.espMauser.espLive Action Handy.espBetterCompanions.esptest - base mod.espModularKalash.espUSP Mod.espUSP_Animation.espNV4.esp3dscopes-hamr.espR91M.esp3dscopes-R91M.esp3dscopes-holorifle.esp3dscopes-wattz.espM14.esp3dscopes-m14.espM1Garand - AWKCR.espBuildYourOwnVault.espBasementLiving.espCROSS_BreakActionLaser.espHuntingRevolver.espSG550.espDOOMLK05.esp3dscopes-lk05.esp3dscopes-laer.esp3dscopes-huntingrevolver.espWMW_TS.espBetterNightVision.espDarkerNights.espDarkerNights-Radiant.espDarkerNightsDetection.espG36Complex.espHK_UMP.espDOOMDesertEagle.espM1A.espAUG-A1.espP220.espP90NPC.espPlutoniumCreatures.espFunctionalDisplays-AID-VIS.espFunctionalDisplays-Patch-DLC-ALL-VIS.espAES_Renovated Furniture.espNorthland Diggers New.espThematic and Practical.espScrap Everything - Ultimate Edition.espBetterSettlers.espBetterSettlersCleanFacePack.espBetterSettlersHeavyArmorOnly.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espStartMeUp.esp I apologize for the ridiculously long order. Now are there any conflictions that might occur with this order? Are there any plugins that are known to directly cause issues in the game (i.e. crashing, freezing, etc)? Thank you for your patience!

Okay so I know this sounds far-fetched, but is there a mod that allows you to craft loadable instance areas in your settlement? Not expecting there to be due to the limitations, however; I am interested if such mod exists. -Thanks in advance