Can't edit last post on phone but finally got past the meeting place bit, spoke with Ingvi briefly about her mission and the noble assholes and then spoke to Onmund and the next bit started and he moved us all to his and Ingvi's home and wow, their parents, damn that was horrible what I learned about them, once past that learning what Ingvi had done was amazing so well done, I let her live and do what she must, as the dragonborn I can understand that. Now midway investigating a serial killer in Windhelm he stopped me near the market and proposed, think shame it wasn't in the rift, market isn't really romantic. Gonna make a note of how to get past the meeting place for next time.