Zemoco10

Thanks for reading and the suggestions.

Unticking all the mods leaves the game save unloadable. What I will do is untick Warcry, kill Gabriel, then retick it.

Figured it out. It was Oblivion Warcry. In fact, the shield dragging on the floor under him was from Warcry. This is strange. I never had problems with the game crashing before? Maybe it was a botched inventory.

I don't know what's causing it. I have a heavily modded game but I don't really crash much. Here is my load order: Active Mod Files: If there's one thing strange about him. is thta even though he is a Wraith he appears to have a shield dragging on the floor. I tried killing him with consolde and it crashes. I tried going to another cell, waiting 72 hours and yet it still crashes. Another thing I should mention is that I do tweak my inis hear and there, like OR, OSR, Enboost. but thta can't be possible be the conflict? Sure they may cause the game to crash, but not in such a way that's easily replica table right? I also had a very similar mod list last year and did this quest no problem ( I would say the new ones are the mods after the bashed patch.) I will experiment, but it be nice if someone else had this problem that could show me what to do. Thanks.

Just wondering, because I was curious about what it does, but hesitant because my game is already heavily modded already. I use Warcry already, so I was wondering if it was worth installing the New Dimensions.

I have this issue where sometimes NPCs seemingly just stand around during an action objective in a quest (An example would be when you go to Weynon Priory and talk with Jauffre and he gives you supplies, he would get up, walk over to the chest, and just stand there. The chest would never unlock). This has also happened with Glathir in that Paranoia quest, where he would go up to the brothers to kill them with his ax and just stand there. another quest it happened is during the Extortion quest in Cheydinhal were this Dark Elf guy goes up to the guard that took his house, and is about to attack him judging by the dialogue and instead he and the guard just stand there. This hasn't prevented me from playing the game really, and they do seem to do the action eventually, but it is pretty annoying. It's my sneaking suspiscion that it has something to do with the personality idles mod I use (Kazit's and Xtudo together). In terms of other mods I use, I use OOO,MMM,Warcry, Waalx,Maskar, Supreme Magicka, OCOv2, Deadly Reflex 5, Darnified UI, OOO Extended, Better dungeons, Unique Landscapes, LoversPK, Lover'sRapers, Kazits Animated Daedric Ingredients, Ztudo Idles, Kazits Idles, Vilja, Vanilla Combat Enhanced, etc. My game is fairly stable and with good FPS (As in I can play for hours with no crashes and FPS drops only really happen when fighting a bunch of NPCs or when people have torches. Wish I could get rid of NPCs ability to use torches), but that is an issue that I just can't seem to fix.

Are you using DR 5 or 6? I would highly recommend only using 5. 6 is glitchy. Now, to help with your problem, have you tried going into your meshes folder, and going into your first person folder, and deleting a file called skeleton.nif (Keep it in your trashcan just in case that's not the issue)

I can almost guarantee it's Oblivion reloaded. Try uninstalling it. Remove the animations in the Meshes/Characters folder and then install it back again.

For WAC, which item loot fix should I use? ItemLootFix for OOO or Item Loot Fix for MMM or FCOM? I also use MOO and the OOO Extended mods as well. Specifically I want the game to revolve around an OOO+Maskar core, with MMM and Waalx as resources.

Been having an issue in getting my Robert's body to appear properly. Anyone know how to fix it? I use Robert's v52, Oblivion character overhaul, and Seamless racers and equipment. I linked a picture I took using shadowplayhttp://i.imgur.com/m3RtDXu.jpg

I second the Lost Spires. The Haunted House Mod is also good. One of the best dungeons I've ever played. Would also recommend Tears of the Fiend.

Just wondering if Supreme Magicka is ok to use in a heavily modded game? I have the works. OOO, Maskar, Deadly Reflex, Waalx, Unique Landscapes, Is it known to cause problems or bug prone or anything like that? It hasn't been updated in a while so I was worried. If it's too much trouble, could anyone recommend a similar mod?

K just making sure. Oblivion is a fickle beast.

I was wondering that if Boss and Loot say that a mods need cleaning, that is it safe to clean that mod in general? There aren't cases were it isn't recommended? Also, what about cleaning mods that don't show up in BOSS ( as in BOSS doesn't give a warning of deleted refereces or ITM). I know not to clean mods that say "Don't clean, dirty edits needed to function", but what about mods with no indication of that?

Still crash. Decided to nuke my set up and start all over. Because of wyre bash it shouldn't take long. Thanks for your help. I post later to see if I managed to get a successfully stabilized Oblivion. BTW, some questions: In regards to mod cleaning,. I follow BOSS comments on mods to a T. Is that ok, or do I have to do more? (I use tesedit). Also, in terms of mod cleaning, I only do ITM or delete records ( only when Boss tells me the mod has dirty edit).

I don't have those in my oblivion ini. Add the lines if they don't already exist. How and where? Do I just type it in?

I don't have those in my oblivion ini.

Oblivion.ini Also while I'm at it, my OSR settings And my OR settings Other OR I use 1024 for More Heap, and I also use enboost, along with ther 4GB patch ( and I tried the large awareness flag)

By reloading, what do you mean? Like when you load into a file and it crashes on start up, but when you try to load it again it's completely fine even though you changed or messed with nothing? Because that's been happening to me? BTW, what are your Moreheap settings.

It is not very surprising, this is what happens when you put big mods together (OOO, MMM, WAC, UL ...), no matter how good your computer is. You want better performance ? Solution is simple, uninstall some mods, for instance: - LOD mods such as RAEVWD (if you have it) are known to drop fps outside. - Creature mods that add new spawn points to the world (MMM ?) - Some UL you don't like. - ... You can also reduce the "grid" parameters in Oblivion.ini file (impact visuals) What's annoying is I remember at one point I got all of those mods to a point where they were just right, with good performance ( outside of fire and large amount of npcs) and stability.

Ok so I used ENboost, OR's purger, OSR, More Heap, and The fixes. The game doesn't seem to crash at all after 2 hours of play. The only problem is now the performance is garbage :(

I made sure to disable Natural environments weathers, which the mod author had stated was the primary cause of incompatibility.

So I was just trying to stabilize my game. It seems to crash every 10 minutes. I've tried the 4GB patch, Oblivion stutter remover, More Heap, Oblivion reloaded, but it still seems to crash. Here is my load order. Active Mod Files: For any more information. It seems related to Oblivion reloaded. I remember uninstalling that, and being able to play for like an hour, but I haven't been able to replicate that since. Now you're thinking, "Maybe you're crashing because you have a crapton of mods!". However I've had a similar install last year ( MMM, Waalx, OOO, MOO, All Natural, Deadly Reflex, OSR, Oblivion Reloaded, Tears of the Fiend, Lost Spire, etc.) and it seemed to play just fine. Also, I did mess around with animations ( You know move forward, back, attack animations, etc.), but that shouldn't cause crashing right? I only use Wyre Bash and Oblivion Mod Manager to install mods ( and only Oblivion mod manager when therre is an OBMM) I also have a fairly decent computer ( 4790K 16GB Ram 970) Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I do use OSR. I tried to use Oblivion reloaded but get massive stuttering whenever it's installed, which is weird since it worked about a month ago. Probably the update. Anyway, I wiped everything and did a complete reinstall. So far everything is working good. ( Currently using OOO, MMM, Maskar, WAC with compatibility patches, HGEC, RObert's, Deadly Reflex, Animated WIndows, Darkdarn, See You Sleep, etc. No performance loss, no crashing ( THough I did only play for 10 minutes, but before it was crashing after like 6 minutes of play. Anyway, when I get more time ( I have finals in a few days so that won't be possible) I'll try your advice. I'll also post my OSR settings later. Thanks.

I've been trying to get the perfect balance between visual and gameplay mods. I had found it last summer, but since deleted that accidentally. I've been trying for months to get a stable Oblivion but it just keeps crahsing. I cleanred them with tes edit, ran loot, Boss, deleted the ini, the like, and yet I can't get it to stay right. About a week ago it seemed perfectly stable but that's chnaged. Any help? Load Order 0 0 Oblivion.esm 1 1 All Natural Base.esm 2 2 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm 3 3 Mart's Monster Mod.esm 4 4 Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm 5 5 Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm 6 6 Armamentarium.esm 7 7 Artifacts.esm 8 8 A_Bloody_Mess.esm 9 9 HorseCombatMaster.esm 10 a Demolish System - Core.esm 11 b Knights - Revelation.esm 12 c Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 13 d UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp 14 e Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 15 f DLCShiveringIsles.esp 16 10 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp 17 11 All Natural.esp 18 12 All Natural - SI.esp Symphony of Violence.esp 19 13 GOSH.esp 20 14 GOSH Region Ambiance.esp 21 15 WindowLightingSystem.esp 22 16 All normal clothes buyable.esp 23 17 ChaseCameraMod.esp 24 18 FOV Modifier.esp 25 19 ImprovedSigns.esp 26 1a More Effective Enchantments.esp 27 1b Personality Idles - Modified version.esp 28 1c P1DanywhereSittable.esp 29 1d See You Sleep DLL.esp 30 1e See You Sleep DLL - Vampire Bedroll Anims.esp 31 1f Camping.esp VA_BetterGold.esp 32 20 Demolish System - Flash Effects.esp 33 21 Demolish System - Special Moves.esp 34 22 DynamicMusicSystem.esp 35 23 FormID Finder4.esp 36 24 Get Wet v0.92 - no droplets.esp 37 25 Get Wet v0.92.esp 38 26 [Hexaae] Get Wet v0.92.esp 39 27 MigMiscellanea.esp 40 28 Quest Log Manager.esp 41 29 QZ Easy Menus.esp 42 2a Map Marker Overhaul.esp 43 2b Enhanced Hotkeys.esp 44 2c Ayleid Armor Standalone.esp 45 2d Immersive Weapons.esp 46 2e Neck Ornament.esp DMRA BBB Armamentarium Complete.esp 47 2f DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp 48 30 Dude Wheres My Horse.esp 49 31 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp OOO-BirthSigns.esp 50 32 OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp 51 33 OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp OOO-Potions.esp 52 34 Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp 53 35 Alluring Wine Bottles.esp Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp OMOBS.esp OMOBS_SI.esp 54 36 OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp 55 37 OOOAddonUndead.esp 56 38 OOODangerousDaedra.esp 57 39 ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp 58 3a Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Adventurers.esp Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp 59 3b Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp 60 3c Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp 61 3d Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp 62 3e WAC - ItemLootFix4v1.0bMMMorFCOM.esp 63 3f WAC - OverSpawn.esp 64 40 WAC - OverSpawn4v1.0bOOO.esp WAC - Player Summons.esp WAC - Horses.esp WAC - Magic.esp 65 41 WAC - HGEC Equipment Replacer.esp 66 42 Oblivifall - Something Is Definately Not Right.esp 67 43 EM_CompInnsleeping.esp 68 44 Ivellon.esp 69 45 AdenseEpicDungeon.esp 70 46 Artifacts.esp DMRA BBB Artifacts Complete.esp 71 47 BladeOfTheHaunted.esp BladeOfTheHaunted Vwalk.esp 72 48 BHC_Expanded.esp 73 49 HauntedHouse.esp 74 4a Kragenir's Death Quest.esp Kragenir's Death Quest Vwalk.esp 75 4b KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp 76 4c Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp 77 4d Knights.esp 78 4e Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp 79 4f Knights - Revelation.esp DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp Knights Vwalk UOP.esp Knights - Revelation Vwalk.esp Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp 80 50 Fall of the Ayleids.esp 81 51 TOTF.esp TOTF Vwalk.esp TOTF Delayer.esp 82 52 The Lost Spires.esp The Lost Spires Vwalk.esp 83 53 MannimarcoRevisited.esp 84 54 MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp 85 55 Better daedric shrines full.esp 86 56 xuldarkforest.esp 87 57 LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp 88 58 xulStendarrValley.esp 89 59 xulTheHeath.esp 90 5a xulEntiusGorge.esp 91 5b xulFallenleafEverglade.esp 92 5c LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp 93 5d xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp 94 5e xulChorrolHinterland.esp xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp 95 5f xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp 96 60 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp 97 61 xulLushWoodlands.esp 98 62 xulAncientYews.esp 99 63 xulAncientRedwoods.esp 100 64 xulCloudtopMountains.esp 101 65 xulArriusCreek.esp 102 66 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp 103 67 xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat Vwalk.esp 104 68 xulPantherRiver.esp 105 69 xulRiverEthe.esp 106 6a xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp 107 6b xulImperialIsle.esp xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp 108 6c Adense RR Rumare UL Imperial Isle Patch.esp 109 6d xulBlackwoodForest.esp 110 6e xulCheydinhalFalls.esp 111 6f TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp 112 70 DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp 113 71 xulAspenWood.esp xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp 114 72 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp 115 73 xulSnowdale.esp 116 74 OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp 117 75 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp 118 76 OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp xulCliffsOfAnvil Vwalk.esp 119 77 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp 120 78 Lost Spires + Silverfish River Patch.esp 121 79 xulJerallGlacier.esp 122 7a OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp 123 7b xulTheEasternPeaks.esp xulTheEasternPeaks Vwalk.esp 124 7c BetterDaedricShrinesFull-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp 125 7d KragenirsDeathQuest-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp 126 7e Banes Guilds UnitedOOO.esp 127 7f Better Dungeons.esp 128 80 A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp A Bloody Mess - Armor Shader Supression.esp A Bloody Mess - Arena Wash Basin.esp 129 81 Cliff_BetterLetters.esp 130 82 Jhaerik's Dungeon Fog Remover.esp 131 83 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp 132 84 Elz - Realistic Gravity.esp 133 85 ConduitMagic.esp 134 86 AgarMoreVariedSpellEffects.esp 135 87 SetBody.esp 136 88 AgarVariedSpellSounds_SupremeMagicka.esp 137 89 SupremeMagicka.esp 138 8a SM_ShiveringIsles.esp SM_OOO.esp SM_MMM.esp 139 8b MidasSpells.esp 140 8c SM Combat Hide.esp 141 8d DenockArrowToo.esp 142 8e DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp 143 8f DocDodge.esp 144 90 Oblivion XP.esp 145 91 Breathing Idle Animations.esp 146 92 HAZeatanimations.esp 147 93 ActorsInEmotions.esp 148 94 77_Umpa_Animation.esp MOBSification of MODS.esp 149 95 DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp 150 96 Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp 151 97 Synx.esp 152 98 1em_Vilja.esp 153 99 1em_Vilja_Neck_Seam_Concealer.esp 1em_Vilja_as_Moonshadow_Elf_Stranger.esp Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp Oblivion_Character_Overhaul Vwalk.esp BadderFireFX.esp BadderFrostFX.esp BadderShockFX.esp 154 9a BadderNuclearFireFX.esp 155 9b lumi_enchantments_subtle.esp SM_DeadlyReflex5.esp All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp 156 9c Bashed Patch, 0.esp 157 9d Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp 158 9e GrabCompanionV2.esp 159 9f TooSmallBikini.esp 160 a0 Unconscious300.esp 161 a1 ImmersiveHealthIndication+.esp DMRA BBB Crusader Armor - Revelation.esp DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Armors.esp 162 a2 DMRA BBB Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.esp [sR] Khats & Args.esp