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I'm going to try that now. Thanks for the help it's much appreciated

I just installed it because I figured I would need it for TOEB to work for dawnguard. I'll try removing it

Could it be too much mod content for the game to load? If so what mods might be adding that much content in that area? If it helps another area I had consistent CTD's in on my old game was approaching the sleeping giant inn in riverwood

I'll try that as soon as I get the chance. Thanks for the help its much appreciated. Should ClimatesOfTamriel.esm stay where LOOT puts it or should it go somewhere else in the load order? as a reference point for the other plugins It should be fine at the top where it is I tried changing my load order to fit the list you gave to no avail unfortunately. I'm having the same CTD every time I walk up the road from honningbrew meadery toward riverwood

I'll try that as soon as I get the chance. Thanks for the help its much appreciated. Should ClimatesOfTamriel.esm stay where LOOT puts it or should it go somewhere else in the load order? as a reference point for the other plugins

I'm not running any ENB graphics but I'm running ENBoost by itself to try to improve performance

Sorry I did run LOOT and I've actually removed open cities and created a bashed patch since I started troubleshooting the problem. Are there any other clear problems that could be causing the crashes?

So I have constant CTD's at seemingly random times. For example had one when I came near honningbrew meadery, often when I open my inventory, approaching Whiterun gates. Any help would be appreciated. I've disabled mods one by one and in batches and can't figure out the problem. I also disabled the patches/plugins that I don't need so that shouldn't be the problem either. Thanks for any help you guys can give. I posted this in another forum but I'm not sure if it was the right one so I'm reposting here. Here's my load order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm 7 7 Campfire.esm 8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 9 9 TravellersOfSkyrim.esm 10 a HighResTexturePack01.esp 11 b HighResTexturePack02.esp 12 c HighResTexturePack03.esp 13 d Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp 14 e SkyUI.esp 15 f Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp 16 10 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp 17 11 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp 18 12 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 19 13 RealisticRoomRental.esp 20 14 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 21 15 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp 22 16 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 23 17 WetandCold.esp 24 18 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 25 19 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 26 1a LostGrimoire.esp 27 1b HearthfiresDollsAreUgly.esp 28 1c TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp 29 1d SimplyKnock.esp 30 1e When Vampires Attack.esp 31 1f ImmersiveSpells.esp 32 20 TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn Addon.esp 33 21 RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp 34 22 Babette.esp 35 23 AOS.esp 36 24 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 37 25 3DNPC.esp 38 26 Book Covers Skyrim.esp 39 27 RealisticWaterTwo.esp 40 28 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp 41 29 OBIS.esp 42 2a Ranger Cabins.esp 43 2b Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 44 2c OBISDB.esp 45 2d CornerofTheSkyrim.esp 46 2e RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp 47 2f Run For Your Lives.esp 48 30 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 49 31 AMatterOfTime.esp 50 32 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 51 33 Immersive Weapons.esp 52 34 Unique Uniques.esp 53 35 WayOfTheMonk.esp 54 36 SMIM-Merged-All.esp 55 37 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp 56 38 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp 57 39 SFO - Dragonborn.esp 58 3a RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp 59 3b Hunterborn.esp 60 3c Immersive Patrols II.esp Hunterborn_CACO_Patch.esp Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp 61 3d Frostfall.esp 62 3e Religion.esp 63 3f Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 64 40 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp 65 41 FishingInSkyrim.esp 66 42 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp 67 43 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp 68 44 DeadlyMutilation.esp 69 45 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp 70 46 iNeed.esp 71 47 Sneak Tools.esp 72 48 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp 73 49 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp 74 4a VendorSaleDelay-Gone.esp Hunterborn_BlacksmithChest_Patch.esp 75 4b Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp Hunterborn_Requiem-Patch.esp Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp 76 4c Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp 77 4d Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp 78 4e TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 79 4f AFT_iNPCFix.esp 80 50 Predator Vision.esp 81 51 VioLens.esp 82 52 WerewolfPerksExpanded.esp 83 53 GDO-IA-PATCH.esp 84 54 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp 85 55 AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp 86 56 AOS2_DSI Patch.esp 87 57 AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp 88 58 AOS2_GDO Patch.esp 89 59 AOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp 90 5a Open Cities Skyrim.esp 91 5b Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

So I have constant CTD's at seemingly random times. For example had one when I came near honningbrew meadery, often when I open my inventory, approaching Whiterun gates. Any help would be appreciated. I've disabled mods one by one and in batches and can't figure out the problem. I also disabled the patches/plugins that I don't need so that shouldn't be the problem either. Thanks for any help you guys can give. Here's my load order: 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm 7 7 Campfire.esm 8 8 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 9 9 TravellersOfSkyrim.esm10 a HighResTexturePack01.esp11 b HighResTexturePack02.esp12 c HighResTexturePack03.esp13 d Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp14 e SkyUI.esp15 f Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp16 10 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Brighter Dungeons.esp17 11 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp18 12 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp19 13 RealisticRoomRental.esp20 14 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp21 15 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp22 16 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp23 17 WetandCold.esp24 18 WetandCold - Ashes.esp25 19 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp26 1a LostGrimoire.esp27 1b HearthfiresDollsAreUgly.esp28 1c TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp29 1d SimplyKnock.esp30 1e When Vampires Attack.esp31 1f ImmersiveSpells.esp32 20 TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn Addon.esp33 21 RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp34 22 Babette.esp35 23 AOS.esp36 24 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp37 25 3DNPC.esp38 26 Book Covers Skyrim.esp39 27 RealisticWaterTwo.esp40 28 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp41 29 OBIS.esp42 2a Ranger Cabins.esp43 2b Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp44 2c OBISDB.esp45 2d CornerofTheSkyrim.esp46 2e RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp47 2f Run For Your Lives.esp48 30 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp49 31 AMatterOfTime.esp50 32 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp51 33 Immersive Weapons.esp52 34 Unique Uniques.esp53 35 WayOfTheMonk.esp54 36 SMIM-Merged-All.esp55 37 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp56 38 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp57 39 SFO - Dragonborn.esp58 3a RRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp59 3b Hunterborn.esp60 3c Immersive Patrols II.esp Hunterborn_CACO_Patch.esp Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp61 3d Frostfall.esp62 3e Religion.esp63 3f Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp64 40 RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp65 41 FishingInSkyrim.esp66 42 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp67 43 RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp68 44 DeadlyMutilation.esp69 45 Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp70 46 iNeed.esp71 47 Sneak Tools.esp72 48 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp73 49 iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp74 4a VendorSaleDelay-Gone.esp Hunterborn_BlacksmithChest_Patch.esp75 4b Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp Hunterborn_Requiem-Patch.esp Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp76 4c Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp77 4d Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp78 4e TheEyesOfBeauty.esp79 4f AFT_iNPCFix.esp80 50 Predator Vision.esp81 51 VioLens.esp82 52 WerewolfPerksExpanded.esp83 53 GDO-IA-PATCH.esp84 54 AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp85 55 AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp86 56 AOS2_DSI Patch.esp87 57 AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp88 58 AOS2_GDO Patch.esp89 59 AOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp90 5a Open Cities Skyrim.esp91 5b Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp