Nemesis616

played abit with my old save for now, wanted to check if the ctd/freeze issue got any better after all things i tried, even without a new save. And i believe i got way less ctd, freezes still occur often, but not as often as before, atleast that's my feeling. My Papyrus log however is more spammed with error then ever before. But like i said i'm still on the old save, after removing all those mods, i shouldn't wonder about a immense huge papyrus log :P Edit: still if someone might answer my previous post abit, that would be really awesome Anyway thanks to EVERYONE who tried to help me. Thanks alot, great modding community!

very helpful thanks. Not sure yet if i gonna use them, but it's very very helpful to know the resources to look at. Kinda busy with my work currently, but this morning i was able to play for 30minutes without a freeze (after porting out of jorvaskrr with coc whiterun) However my log is still filled up a lot actually. After 30mins i got 26528 entries :blink: Here are the last few lines from it: I really fear that i have to remove my 2 bird mods, i kinda loved the immersion from it. Ah another important question from me which isn't answered yet (or i did overread it) Should i only use mods which are on this list: http://wiki.step-project.com/User:Neovalen/Skyrim_Revisited_-_Legendary_Edition ? (guess the "This is incomplete and currently in a sandbox state. DO NOT USE!!!" - is to be ignored?)

would boss still work on the organizer? and on the guide there is the following text: Notice: This guide has been frozen while a replacement is created. does that consider in any way? Or just a ignoreable message=

first of all, THANKS a lot for ur great help. Yeah my current goal is to make skyrim as stable as possible before starting my new game. Also i feel like crying for losing my first playtrough. Also u mentioned "Neovalen" by google i found this: http://wiki.step-project.com/User:Neovalen/Skyrim_Revisited is that actually what u mean? If so, i probally gonna clean install skyrim again (i'm sure there was a guide somewhere how to perferm a real clean reinstall) and working trough this whole site. Also i saw that there aren't that many mods, if u compare them to the total mod number on the nexus. Would u say i shouldn't install any mods that aren't on the step site which i posted above? Also u meantion a patch for enhanced blood and Improved Combat Sounds, u mean the patch on the ICS files section i guess. Not sure i think i got it but well have to recheck it, Edit: SkyVoice is just a mod for using ur microphone for using skills (similiar to thuu'mic) Birds and Flocks Hearthfire Edition is also a bird mod, which was suggest in combination to birds of skyrim (actually that's the mod name on nexus) Also i'm not rly sure what The Mod Organizer is. Never heard of it actually, guess u don't mean the NMM right? Edit 2: is that what u meant? http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/1334//?

Sound mod let me think, Climates Of Tamriel - Weather - Lighting - Audio Fantasy Music Overhaul Heart of the Beast - Werewolf Sound Improved Combat Sounds SkyVoice And i had all 3 Sounds of Skyrim installed before, but there seemed to be some incompatible problems with climates of tamriel, so i removed those aswell quite some time ago. that should be every mod that has something to do with my sounds. Actually a few posts ago i posted my complete mod list, in a non .esp version. For the bird question, yeah i had 3: Birds of Skyrim Birds and Flocks Hearthfire Edition skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds i uninstalled skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds quite some time ago, since the mod produced a lot of bugged birds on the ground who simple were frozen inside there animation. After removing it, the bugging birds disappeared. Edit: damn i fear that i have to restart my whole game...which is kinda set invested lot of time into mine, and all my archive that epic archievments weren't that easy to get =/ Guess there is no way to clean a save file completly right? Tried the Skyrim Save cleaner, but guess that wasn't a huge success xD

Ok the game is kinda unstable right now, it's stutters a lot Also having currently always on the same point a freeze, when u go to jarvasskr for the funeral. U need to go inside Jorvasskr to get the last wuuthrad fragment, when returning to the upper part of jorvasskr it hangs on the loading screen. Here are the last few Line of my papyrus log: Also after 5minutes of playing the Error Log even increased to 4505 Lines or errors xD Didn't tested it with a new game yet. Also i will remove Inconsequational NPC's next. To check if that curses my stuttering (atleast for towns) Will keep testing now and be back with more infos asap Also the stuttering causes even my sound to stutter. O_O

beeing at work currently will check as soon as i am home. What does removing the tamrieltreelod.dds actually do? Does it disable the whole SFO?

ah thanks a lot gonna try to ini change and deleting the tamrieltreelod.dds Thanks a lot for ur advice. I'm more or less happy with my current mod list, so i hope i don't have to remove much more I'm really grateful for every tip and suggestion i can get

Uninstalled following mods: -Footprints -Wet and Cold -Interesting NPC's However my freezes are still there :/ Last playable time: 4mins After 4mins playing my papyrus logs have 2652 Lines in it =/ Ah and my boss says that i got dirty edits on the following things: Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm should i clean those aswell with TES5Edit ?

so u restarted wetandcold trought the mcm menu? K gonna test that out. ENB wouldn't be my problem since i don't use a enb. But i am using a FXAA injector, so dunno if that can be a problem oO I heard about some problems arround enhanced blood, but tbh i would really really miss that mod actually if i had to uninstall it....

btw i also tweaked abit in my skyrim and skyrimpref.ini, may that be a problem aswell? Just added things that ppl or mod authors higly suggested.... Skyrim.ini SkyrimPref.ini

ofc i'm not mad! Like i said i never played a mod-able game. So i have to learn aswell. And u are absolutly right, after installing the first dunno 100mods are started to pay attention, should had done earlier :/ But u kinda get overwhelmed when u start the modding thing ^^

it was a boss list, i just removed the bash tag comments (my friend told me to ignore them they wouldn't mean anything spezial) So that u just get the actual list without bothering with the rest, sry if that was wrong :( Lemme answer ur questions: To 1) I just installed the all-in-one package so i thought they need to be there... thanks for telling me as soon as i found out how i gonna disable all except for 1. Also need to find out what the different esp's are good for. To 2) actually i added Inconsequential NPC very early in the game, and didn't had much problems. However, when u say i should disable it, i gonna do so. Should i deactivate Interesting NPCs aswell? I guess that the impac on that should be even higher then with Inconsequential NPC, or am i wrong? If so should i disable both or would just 1 be enough? To 3) Well the majority of mods were installed as i started the save. But i also removed some mods during gameplay when i found that some aren't needed or incompitable. I wrote down every mod i uninstalled (so i remember why i did so) Here is the list of mods i uninstalled: To 3) so it wouldn't harm to do it right? Or is there any reason why this isn't activated by default? Also howabout the other 2 things to clear my saves? Are they usefull to do? Or would i just waste my time? To 4) mhm i always had ctd and freezes, but my friend told me that this is normal for having a modded skyrim. they just increased so hard that it really starts to bother me while playing :/ I actually never played a game with mods, so i'm pretty new to that. Also i had no clue that u shouldn't uninstall mods which u installed. Which is somehow very sad since u sometimes just notice later if some mods are causing trouble. unfortunately i searched everyday for new mods and so i guess most of my saves aren't a good solution unless i start the whole game again.... learned a lot about things that u shouldn't do while installing mods (like making new save games when testing) like i said i didn't know it :( Thanks a lot for ur help and tips. Really amazing u are actually helping me a lot!!!! A btw just incase that u need it, i have a .txt with all mods i installed (got very bad eyes and NNM interface is pretty hard to read since u can't increase the font size ^^) so i gonna post all mods i have installed once again in a more simple version. Not sure if that i needed but just incase. Should have all mods in it, if i didn't forget to add them X_X and sry for my horrible english ^^

argh sry then, so my first thought about section were actually right :/ my 3 problems occur basically everywhere, also they don't happen at any specific area or city. For example today Crashes: After 20, 5, 33, 7 and 51 minutes. My boss mod list: Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveDawnguard.esm ActiveHearthFires.esm ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveClimatesOfTamriel.esm ActiveLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm Activemoonpath.esm ActiveSkyMoMod.esm ActiveSPIKE.esm ActiveTravellersOfSkyrim.esm ActiveWinterholdDestruction.esm ActiveHighResTexturePack01.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack02.esp ActiveHighResTexturePack03.esp ActiveUnofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial High Resolution Patch.esp ActiveBetter Dynamic Snow.esp ActiveRainbows.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp ActiveImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Activefantasy music overhaul.esp Activefantasy music overhaul - no vanilla music.esp Activefantasy music overhaul - unique town music.esp ActiveSkyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp ActiveTradeBarter.esp Active83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp ActiveBirdsHFclean.esp ActiveBirdsofskyrim.esp ActiveBLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp ActiveCatsofskyrim.esp ActiveChesko_WearableLantern.esp ActiveChesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp ActiveChesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp ActiveChesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp ActiveDogsofskyrim.esp ActiveDungeonQuestAwareness.esp ActiveExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp ActiveImmersive Battles.esp ActiveImmersive Brigands.esp ActiveImmersive Dawnguard.esp ActiveImmersive Dragonborn.esp ActiveImmersive Factions.esp ActiveImmersive Mercenaries.esp ActiveImmersive Patrols.esp ActiveImmersive Travelers.esp ActiveImmersive Werewolves.esp ActiveLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-2.esp ActiveLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-1.esp ActiveLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp ActiveLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-3.esp ActiveLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-4.esp ActiveLong lost smelters by Hyralux.esp ActiveMVABasic.esp ActiveMVAIvarstead.esp ActiveMVARorikstead.esp ActiveORM-Arvak.esp ActiveRadiant and Unique Potions and Poisons v2.0.esp ActiveRealShelter.esp ActiveShootingStars.esp ActiveSkyrim Flora Overhaul.esp ActiveTravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp ActiveTravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn Addon.esp ActiveConvenient Horses.esp ActiveAuto Unequip Ammo.esp ActiveKaceAutoloot.esp ActiveCharacter Creation Overhaul.esp ActiveDragon Soul Relinquishment.esp ActiveDYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp ActiveFootprints.esp ActiveFootprints - Ash.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp ActiveiHUD.esp ActiveAMB Glass Variants Lore.esp ActiveCloaks.esp ActiveCloaks - Dawnguard.esp Active1nivWICCloaks.esp Active1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp ActiveCrossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp Activehothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveLeftHandRings.esp ActiveLeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp ActivePIVariety.esp ActivetbmChrysamere.esp ActiveUnique Uniques.esp ActiveWayoftheVoice.esp ActiveDr_Bandolier.esp ActiveImmersiveArmorsNPCs.esp ActiveHarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp ActiveHarvestOverhaulSalmonRoe.esp ActiveDeadlyDragons.esp ActiveDeadlyMonsters.esp ActiveImmersive Events.esp ActiveInconsequential NPCs.esp ActiveInconsequential NPCs - Enhancement.esp Activemoonpath_questdata.esp ActiveRun For Your Lives.esp ActiveWhen Vampires Attack.esp Activesilverfish.esp ActiveThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Activethroneroom.esp ActiveReweighed Potions.esp ActiveAchieveThat.esp ActiveArtifactOverhaul.esp ActiveBabette.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp ActiveConnys Improved Hearthfire.esp Activeguard dialogue overhaul.esp ActiveImmersive Weapons.esp ActiveOpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp ActiveSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp ActivedD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActivedD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp ActiveThieves Guild Requirements.esp ActiveUnreadBooksGlow.esp ActiveaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp ActiveskyforgedWeapons.esp ActiveUnique Region Names - Dragonborn.esp ActiveExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp ActiveUnique Region Names - Dragonborn COT Patch.esp ActivedD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp ActiveSkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp ActiveBetter Vampires.esp ActivePredator Vision.esp ActiveBrevi_MoonlightTales.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightPatch.esp ActiveWerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6.esp ActiveWerewolfPerksExpanded_1.6b.esp ActiveApocalypse - The Spell Package.esp ActiveEmpoweredMagic.esp ActiveEmpoweredMagic_Dawnguard.esp ActiveEmpoweredMagic_Dragonborn.esp ActiveRealistic crime report radius.esp ActiveDuel - Combat Realism.esp ActiveACE Realistic Fighting.esp ActiveDragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp ActiveThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp ActiveYield.esp ActiveACE BYOG.esp ActiveACE Speech.esp ActiveCCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp ActiveACE Archery.esp ActiveACE Armor.esp ActiveACE Enchanting.esp ActiveACE Magic.esp ActiveACE Melee.esp ActiveACE Smithing.esp ActiveACE Synergy.esp ActiveABT - Loot Arrows +25%.esp ActiveABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp ActiveABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp ActiveABT - Merchants Arrows +25%.esp ActiveABT - Progressive Damage (BS and CCO).esp ActiveABT - Recover +35% Arrows and Bolts.esp ActiveABT - Bolts Renamed for BS and CCO.esp ActiveVampirelordroyal.esp ActiveTheEyesOfBeauty.esp Active3DNPC.esp ActiveSlightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp ActiveAmazingFollowerTweaks.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp ActiveCCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp ActiveSIDT - Complete.esp ActiveWATER DB Waves.esp ActiveAtlas Map Markers.esp ActiveAtlas Blackreach.esp ActiveAtlas Dawnguard.esp ActiveAtlas Hearthfire.esp ActiveAtlas Dragonborn.esp ActiveBarenziahQuestMarkers.esp ActiveSKSE Hotkeys.esp ActiveWetandCold.esp ActiveWetandCold - Ashes.esp ActiveUnique Region Names.esp ActiveBashed Patch, 0.esp ActiveASIS-Dependency.esp ActiveASIS.esp ActiveUnrecognised Plugins AAA_FyTy_Fixes_RelationshipRankQuests.esp ActiveUnique Uniques - Craftable Dragonbane.esp ActiveProtected NPCs Dawnguard.esp ActiveProtected NPCs.esp ActiveProtected NPCs Heartfire.esp ActiveProtected NPCs Dragonborn.esp Activesilverfish - more brighter interiors.esp Active Also i'm using the FXAA Injector and HiAlgo Boost I heard about the SKSE method to clean the save file abit, need to google to find out how. Also i found those guides: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/31675/?tab=1&navtag=%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D31675%26preview%3D&pUp=1 http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/31724/?

Hi all, i recently bought skyrim (Legacy Edition) and installed a lot of mods which i got refered from friends or simply search. I reached 49 now and start to have a lot of trouble with CTD's, Infinite/Frozen Loading Screens and Freezes while playing. I didn't made heavy changes so i wonder what happening. After searching abit i found how to turn on the papyrus log. And wow...heavy error list. Gonna attech them to this post, As u can see the gameplay session are really short, and always ended with 1of my 3problems. I did (thanks to gophers video) clean the dirt edits on my mods (on those who boss told me to) Also my load list is provided by BOSS. Last 3 in my load order are: Bashed patch ASIS - Dependency ASIS What i did for installing my mods: - Installed with NMM - Using BOSS - Marked all mods in wyre bash except Bashed Patch, ASIS - Dependency, ASIS and clicking on "Mark Mergeable" - Putting Bashed and the 2ASIS to the end of my load order. - "Rebuild Patch" on my bashed patch in wyre bash. That's it, then i simply start Skyrim trough the SKSE starter. Kinda lost with my issues tried everything i found while using google and the nmm comments/forums. Maybe someone can help me? :smile: When u need my mod list or load list tell me gonna post it right away, if needed Edit: Ok my logs are to big for uploading them... Going to put my first log (from 5total) in a spoiler tag. If needed i can post the others aswell. Playtime: 20mins Edit 2: Ok to much text for spoiler tag :biggrin: Gonna upload it to texthoster, here's the link: http://texthoster.com/v3ag6 really hope someone can help me :/ or are those error not the curse of my problem? And sorry for my horrible language ^^