Ramagast

Well, I updated all mods that have newer versions, started a new game and got a bug almost immediately. It may be related to the fact that all of us are using plugins with Form 43 that weren't properly saved in new CK. Yet so are thousands of other mod users. Question: (since it's becoming harder to compare mod lists) does anyone here still getting the bug while NOT using neither Frostfall nor Qaxe's Questorium?

Ok, but did you actually removed some of these mods between the playthroughs? Did you noticed any mods you never used in that list? I mean, if you didn't use the mod and still had the issue, the mod is probably innocent =)))

I'm not using SkyUI. Used to have 2.2, but removed it while searching for the root cause of the bug. Qaxe is version 5, clean install on a new game. Madpaddy, looking at the list of mods that I posted above, did you use any of them, but uninstalled before current playthrough? If not, we can seriously trim "suspects" list looking at your current mod list.

Are you using followers? Did any of them entered a bleedout state or died? Did you use a console during your new playthrough? Here are three groups of mods based on previously published load orders - those that had the bug. First group is the likely suspects. Please, tell if you didn't use some of these mods while getting the bug. Second group is "come on..." group. Mods are too well known and have a great quality control. Third group is comprised of mods that I either didn't use while getting the bug or used extensively before running into it. They can still be broken by, say, game update or something. Suspects: - Falskaar - Travellers Of Skyrim - Qaxe Questorium - Helgen Reborn - Eli_Breezehome - Forgotten DungeonsSSE - MoonAndStar_MAS - dD - Enhanced Blood Main - VioLens SE - AKSkyrimUnderground - Artifacts - Immersive Patrols II - Immersive Followers - Eli_Routa.esp - notice board - ForgottenCity - Map Markers Complete - Dr_Bandolier - SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrimSE - Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul - Whistling Mine - Relationship Dialogue Overhaul "Come on..." group: - Book Covers Skyrim - Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library - Vivid WeathersSE - RealisticWaterTwo - Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch - Cutting Room Floor - Alternate Start - Live Another Life - Ars Metallica - Castle Volkihar Rebuilt - SMIM-SE-Merged-All - Imperious - Races of Skyrim - Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package - Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim - Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim "Seemed to work fine" group: - MagicalCollegeOfWinterhold - Populated Skyrim Legendary - WheelsOfLull - HearthfireMultiKid - mrbs-uniqueloot-se - Mortal Enemies

I don't exactly use LOOT as it tends to mess with complex load orders. I'm usually checking my mod lists in TESEdit for conflicts and arrange load order to minimize them. Plus common sense and author's recommendations if there are some. And I used iAFT which is not on Nexus anymore for some reasons. But removing it didn't help. I'll check your load order and maybe shrink the suspect's list. It's like over 80 mods at the moment =( And I really can't tell why it's so rare that only a couple of us have this bug. All these mods are rather well known.

I've since uninstalled iAFT, but the problem persists. And, yes, tried the game without Immersive Armors - it's still happening. Used Skyrim Tools for cleaning, tried a new game. Please, post your load order? It should help to narrow it down. By the way, is the bug keeps happening when you don't have a follower with you? It seemed to help me for a time.

Nope, it's still going on. For some time it seemed that the bug is gone, but no. I've checked a bug trackers for a number of mods, but didn't find similar reports. We share a lot of stuff in our mod list. Are you using "Achievements Enabler" by chance? Did you use a console during playthrough?

Nope, not them. Started a new game without them, played for a couple hours, got the symptoms. I actually played with 3DNPC for a long time before a ran into the issue. And just recently I was able to re-save its .esp in the CK. My next guess would be Immersive Armors. I just happened to notice that symptom #3 doesn't affect its configuration power while wrecking all the others.

So, I've got a weird problem. I can start my game and load a save normally, but in 10-20 minutes into the game something always breaks. Symptoms: - All my saves are shown by the game as corrupt. I can save normally, but cannot load anything. - All NPC's added by mods lose their dialogue lines unless these lines are added by another mod. So, if I talk with the follower from 3DNPC, I only see a line "Let;s talk about your abilities" added by "Immersive Follower tweaks". - Dialogue menus provided by configuration powers of different mod's lose all their text in upper part of the window (part that contains description). They keep all their options. If I exit the game and launch it again, issues disappear. All saves are readable and everything is normal... for another 10 or 20 minutes. I can just stand in one location doing nothing and it still hits. Corrupt saves, lost dialogue. I don't have crashes or freezes or FPS loss. But restarting the game every 20 minutes... is a next best thing, I suppose. I'd love to hear from anyone having the same issue. Even comparing the load order can help. I've attached my load order. Now notice that it have two Oldrim mods: 3DNPC and Amorous Adventures. But, AA is clean and was re-saved in new CK. 3DNPC wasn't, but I've played with it for long time without any issues. They seem to come from one of the later mods as it hit immediately on a new game. "Skyrim Tools" reports that my saves are all right. They are readable and nothing needs cleaning.

Nope, that's not the issue. I actually left only AOS plugin enabled, started the new game and crashed. It can be some rogue script, however, or some kind of random bug with installing/uninstalling another mod with NMM. Currently I see the complete re-install as the only solution, but it's interesting that I'm not the one having this issue and several people left similar reports in bug trackers of different sound mods.

Yes, I have the latest drivers. The thing is, after I installed the new GPU, Skyrim worked fine with all additional sounds. It only broke after re-installing. However, another affected user has confirmed that he have the same sound/video setup. Oh, and I checked - any music from any mod is affected, so I crash when entering the gallery from "Legacy of the Dragonborn", for example. But Skyrim music plays fine. How can it be? =(

Short version: My game crashes any time I'm trying to use any sound mod (AOS, ISC, Immersive Music, you name it). It happens without any other mods activated. It's never happened before. I'm quite adept in modding, so the issue is baffling. I'm also not the only one encountering it - each of these sound mods has reports of such crashes, while they are rare and largely ignored. Long version: So, I had this nice Skyrim setup, but thought it could be nicer. More FPS, you know, better ENB and the loading times were killing me. I bought and installed GeForce 1080 GTX and new SSD drive. Skyrim was installed on old HDD. I've tested it and it worked good, but I still wanted better loading times, so I've uninstalled Skyrim completely and installed it on a new drive. And, well, started to rebuild my mod setup. Here I encountered a problem: Any music mod like "Fantasy Soundtrack Project" or "Immersive Music" and any big sound mod like "Audio Overhaul for Skyrim" or "Immersive Sounds Compendium" while activated crashes my game iimediately after loading when the game is trying to play new sound or music. It happens 100% of the time. "Crash fixes" is installed and doesn't produce a message. the log only shows: "Game has crashed with exception address 0x68D9BBBC!" and that's all. I'm using an integrated sound card, Realtek HD Audio. NPC voices don't have this problem ("Interesting NPC's" or "Arissa" run without issues). What's more baffling, small sounds included with other mods don't have this problem. I've installed "Skeletons of Daggerfall" and it plays without crashes. There are no problem with sounds from "Complete Alchemy and Cooking Overhaul", etc. But I have no idea if my game will crash when, say, "Undeath" will try to play it's new music, so this issue becomes a show-stopper. Now, what it isn't: 1) It's probably not a problem with mod conflict, as I tried it with extremely light mod setup and even deactivated all other plugins. Still crashes. 2) It shouldn't be a problem with new video card, as I tested old setup with it before re-installing and everything worked right. 3) It shouldn't be a problem with a new drive either, as it doesn't show any errors and everything else loads perfectly fine. 4) It's not a "missing master" or "masters are out of order" problem. Master are there, cleaned with TES5Edit and are in order. 5) It' not about SKSE as I tried it without single SKSE plugin. 6) I'm also using my old .inis, which are optimized according to S.T.E.P. and other good guides. No suspicious lines, messing with Papyrus, etc. Any help is greatly appreciated. I'm at my wit's end here.

I believe your crash is actually documented - during the installation of XPMSE there is an option to install a draugr skeleton that supposed to fix this particular crash.

For me installing HDT extension and optional download - Bounce Pack, which seems to actually be a requirement - fixed the problem for a time being. If I'll still get a crash in the future, I'll disable it (which will be troublesome as it's included in Bashed Patch along with a lot of custom edits to leveled lists that will be lost in rebuilding the patch.

Nah, it didn't help. Guess its complete re-install for me as well. It seems like some rogue skeleton in some none-animation mod. Edit: looking at your mod list, that's what we have in common: Skyrim.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition PatchCampfireGray Fox CowlSGHairPackEnhancedLightsandFXJKs SkyrimRealisticWaterTwoRelationship Dialogue OverhaulUndeathWeathered Road SignsGuard Dialogue OverhaulBook of UUNP Iron And SteelImmersive WeaponsSkyrimsUniqueTreasuresRealisticWaterTwo - LegendarySMIM-Merged-AllRealisticWaterTwoWavesRealisticWaterTwo - DragonbornRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - DawnguardRealisticWaterTwo - DawnguardTheEyesOfBeautyFaction CrossbowsSkyUIVivid WeathersChesko_WearableLanternFootprintsRaceMenuWetandColdWetandCold - AshesdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - RealisticAlternate Start - Live Another Life Now, I've used Campfore, Frostfall, Realistic Water, Vivid Weathers, Faction Crossbows, SkyUI, Wet&Cold, RaceMenu, Gray Fox Cowl. Undeath, Realistic Ragdolls and ELFX in the past without any issues. So, my money is on the Book of UNP as it's the only one here that can mess with skeletons.

I've encountered this problem in completely different places (on the road from Helgen (consistent), loading a save in Riverwood (not so consistent). I'm starting to wonder if it's correctly diagnosed by Crash fixes. First thing I thought: "It's a dog". It sorta makes sense considering the places and the fact that XPMSE doesn't touch this skeleton so its re-installation has no effect. The canine skeleton was installed by Realistic Ragdolls and Force, but for all that I know some other mod can have it's own skeleton in BSA. Or RRnF doesn't like the Havok fix in "Bug Fixes". Or... reasons. Anyway, for now I just installed FNIS creatures (which I didn't need before), so all creature skeletons and behaviors are properly overwritten by FNIS. Let's see if it helps. Now, if only Skyrim would stop "FootLK" crashes on load due to "too much animations"...

I just ran into the same problem. Did you find the solution? Can you post your mod list?

Ok, for me it was solved by using additional fix from PerMa Compatibility Patches page - I didn't notice it sooner. Apparently, it's a bug in Perkus Maximus 1.2. Thanks to amazing tonycubed2 for the tip!

I'm using Perkus Maximus, actually. It's the first time I've encountered this bug in a years of Skyrim modding. I'm not using any lockpick or thief mods other than Perma, But, after encountering this bug, I tried to install Lock Overhaul with Perma patch, hoping its scripts will cover the bug. No luck. I can bash locks normally, but I can't open them. Interface just doesn't show.

So do I, suddenly - I've played with pretty much all of these mods before so it seems like a load order issue. Can you post your load order?

Well, SKSE plugins are: - AHZmoreHUDPlugin.dll - CellStabilizer.dll - chargen.dll - EnchantReloadFix.dll - Fuz Ro D'oh.dll - JaxonzConsolePlugIn.dll - nioverride.dll - SKSE_Elys_MemInfo.dll - SKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll - SKSE_EnhancedCamera.dll - tkplugin.dll - towConversation.dll Load order follows. It's a long one. 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Vanilla.esp=1lanterns.esp=1Map Markers Landmarks.esp=1Point The Way.esp=1fallentreebridges.esp=1Laundry.esp=1LootandDegradation.esp=1ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp=1Predator Vision.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1RealisticRoomRental-Basic.esp=1SimpleTaxes.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1TimingIsEverything.esp=1TradeBarter.esp=1AchieveThat.esp=1Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp=1towConversation.esp=1Earlier Health Warnings.esp=1Exhaustion.esp=1vwr Wet Eyes.esp=1VioLens.esp=1Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp=1Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp=1Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp=1CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp=1ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1Pureweather.esp=1EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1ELFX - Dawnguard.esp=1ELFX - Dragonborn.esp=1ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1ELE-Interior Lighting Merged.esp=1Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp=1Vividian - Weather Patch CoT - ESS + SS.esp=1Vividian - Pure Weather Patch.esp=1Vividian - AllinOne Presets.esp=1Vividian - 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Epic Shout Package.esp=1ESFCompanions.esp=1aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp=1GM-CookingRebalanceFinalHearthfire.esp=1Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1Morskom.esp=1dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp=1Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp=1CCO_SIC_Patch.esp=1TravellersOfSkyrim - CCOR Dragonborn and Bags and Pouches Addon.esp=1TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn Addon.esp=1Scarcity - Less Loot Mod.esp=1HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp=1DftT.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1Animal Tweaks.esp=1CWINPCImprovements.esp=1WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp=1Lore Weapon Expansion.esp=1High Level Enemies - SIC.esp=1Guards Attack Hostiles.esp=1Unique Uniques.esp=1WerewolfMastery.esp=1WetandCold.esp=1WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1WetandCold - Holidays.esp=1Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1LocalizedGuildJobs.esp=1Thieves Guild Requirements.esp=1ThievesGuildReq_LocalizedGuildJobs_Patch.esp=1ELE-FX Effects Interior.esp=1Inconsequential NPCs.esp=1Patch - Inconsequential NPCs - RS kids.esp=1Inconsequential NPCs - 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Increased Spell Power.esp=1Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp=1JaxonzUtilities.esp=1moveitLWT.esp=1SpecialFlora.esp=1Toxicity.esp=1konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Master.esp=1Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp=1DeadlyDragons.esp=1Imperious - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp=1Pre PaMa WAFR CCOR Patch.esp=1aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp=1Unique Unique.esp=1PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp=1Apocalypse - More Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp=1Spectraverse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp=1Dwemertech - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp=1CCO_Frostfall_Patch.esp=1PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp=1Duel - Combat Realism.esp=1WeaponsArmorFixes_ambSkyforge_Patch.esp=1Thunderchild - PerMa Compatibility Patch.esp=1RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp=1PrinceandPauperRS.esp=1CommonClothes.esp=1RSChildren - Complete.esp=1DSerULG.esp=1TKDodge.esp=1Headless Perma.esp=1SOT14-Imperious2Patch.esp=1Animal Tweaks - SIC.esp=1PerMaExtendedPerkDescriptions.esp=1Useful Spell Descriptions for PerMa.esp=1NPCs Protected Redux - Merged Add-ons.esp=1NPCs Protected Redux - CRF.esp=1SOT_HLE_SIC_ROE_PM_AT.esp=1OBIS.esp=1OBISDB.esp=1OBIS Loot.esp=1OBISCloaks&IA7.esp=1Bandit Patrols.esp=1quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp=1UniqueBows.esp=1iNeed.esp=1iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp=1Wrath Of Nature.esp=1ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1Scarcity - 6x Merchant Item Rarity.esp=1Scarcity - 8x Loot Rarity.esp=1Pre PaMa CCF Patch.esp=1Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1PatchusMaximus.esp=1Post PatchusMaximus Perma Mods and Tweaks.esp=1 Hope it helps.

Short version: My game randomly breaks and loot window starts to lag awfully. Only reloading of the previous save helps me. Makes the game nearly unplayable. Can happen any time. I'm not using unsafe Papyrus .ini tweaks. I am using "Stable uGrids to load", SKSE memoty tweak, ENBoost. My save is clean (I'm checking it with a "Scalpel" and I'm not overdoing it by deleting scripts and instances left and right). Nothing suspicious shows up in Papyrus log if I enable them. I'm using 200+ mods, different setups, did completely new setup around Perma not long ago. My script latency is around 60-70 ms (open world), 40-50 (interiors). It's very, very irritating and I can't find any mention of this problem anywhere. Details: So, I'm playing Skyrim for a long time, with a lot of mods and I've tried different mod setups. But there is this bug that kinda following me around and randomly breaks my game. I'm going around, minding my business, looting another corpse when... its inventory opens with sudden, noticeable lag. And I know at that moment that I need to reload previous save. Because each new loot window will be slower and slower and it won't ever go away. Papyrus log won't show anything, script latency will continue to be acceptable (while not looting), "Save game Scalper" won't find anything to cut. It will stay in my save if I quit the game and return. So, only choice is reloading. If anyone encountered this problem before or know about it, your help will be much appreciated. Thank you.

I don't have strange signs with AchieveThat (none that I can remember, anyway). Helgen Reborn somewhat bothers me, as it's one of the few mods I've installed in the middle of the game (it breaks game intro if used from the beginning and requires a few days to pass before you can activate its quest). No Alternative Start also - I've used it during the wild experiments with different mod combinations, but this time I was more interested in the stability.

My, it's gonna be a long one. Also, I have a few crushes but they are more of a natural type. Play for a couple hours straight and Skyrim just needs a break. And it goes like this: Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 TravellersOfSkyrim.esm=1 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1 EFFCore.esm=1 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1 JSwords.esm=0 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1 SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp=1 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1 Cutting Room Floor.esp=1 Dr_BandolierDG.esp=0 RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1 AMatterOfTime.esp=1 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1 VioLens.esp=1 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowerRes_HighSpawn.esp=1 Convenient Horses.esp=1 UIExtensions.esp=1 Resplendent - The Races Package.esp=1 Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp=1 JaxonzRenamer.esp=1 LeftHandRings.esp=1 ExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp=0 SimpleTaxes.esp=1 You Hunger.esp=1 HitStop.esp=1 Footprints.esp=1 more plants all extra.esp=1 lanterns.esp=1 BetterWhitePhialEffects.esp=1 HF_MobilePlanters.esp=1 Footprints - Ash.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1 Piratelords Loot Adjustments.esp=1 iHUD.esp=1 IridumEyes2.0.esp=1 JaxonzLightsPlease.esp=1 LootandDegradation.esp=1 UltimateCombat.esp=1 Vividian - 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Thanks =) I'm using Save Cleaner, yes, and my save file is clean. I'm using LOOT as framework, adjusting load order manually when needed. I think that I'm dealing with some rare mod conflict and when one of these mods starts its quest (which may happen in the middle of any playthrough) - BAM! Another mod triggers conflict and makes quests disappear. For now my best hope is to find someone else with this issue so we can at least compare our mod lists. I just fear that with all these new active topics, this one will sink to the depths of oblivion before it happens.