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Maybe I'm just too used to the old design, but I just can't use the new layout, looks "off" to me. Is there a reason we can't just keep the option of changing between the new and old designs?

Fallout 4 ran fine last time I played, but now when I try to load my save, it loads up then after a few seconds either freezes or CTD's. Happens on every save. I've been at this for about 2 hours, if anyone else can find out what's wrong I'd appreciate it. Here's my load order. Silent Protagonist and Looksmenu are also installed, for some reason they aren't in the plugins.txt file.

Everything runs fine minus some minor stuttering (OSR doesn't seem to be doing it's job), but at seemingly random times, it just crashes. Here's my load order, everything was installed with Wyrebash, anything that couldn't be installed that way was installed either manually or with NMM. Oblivion.esmOpen Cities Resources.esmCM Partners.esmDLCShiveringIsles.espKnights.espxulRiverEthe.espxulTheEasternPeaks.espxulAncientYews.espxulCloudtopMountains.espxulBravilBarrowfields.espOpen Cities Reborn.espxulLushWoodlands.espxulCheydinhalFalls.espxulSilverfishRiverValley.espxulBlackwoodForest.espxulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.espxulColovianHighlands_EV.espxulArriusCreek.espxulSnowdale.espxulAncientRedwoods.espxulJerallGlacier.espxulEntiusGorge.espxulCliffsOfAnvil.espxulBrenaRiverRavine.espxulTheHeath.espxuldarkforest.espxulAspenWood.espxulRollingHills_EV.espxulFallenleafEverglade.espxulSkingradOutskirts.espxulStendarrValley.espxulPantherRiver.espxulImperialIsle.espOpen Cities New Sheoth.espUnique Landscapes.espOpen Cities Outer Districts.espxulPatch_AY_AC.espBashed Patch, 0.espCM Partners More NPCs NE.espCM Partners More NPCs.espCM Partners NPC.espCM Partners Extra NPCs.espCM Partners NPC NE.espCM Partners.espCM Partners Special NPCs.espCM Partners Marker NPCs.espGrass Overhaul.espGrass Overhaul_xUL_Imperial_Isle_patch.espImmersive Weapons.espRoadLights.espMaskar's Oblivion Overhaul.espMass Outfit Redesign.espMidasSpells.espRenGuardOverhaul.espSounds of Cyrodiil.espOblivion_Character_Overhaul.espRealistic Water.esp

So, I've never actually used Mod Organizer before, and as someone who's modded Skyrim for years, I really should have been. But, I have a problem. ENB's don't work with MO. I launch the game, and some are just a black screen. So I tried TAZ Visual Overhaul, and that ALMOST works, it's just the shadows and game in general are INSANELY dark, unplayably so. I opened the ENB menu but, there was no menu, however when I open it, the ENB looks perfectly normal, just no menu. Then closing it makes it look dark again. I've never seen this happen before, and I'm completely stumped. I launched through SKSE without MO, and while my mods weren't on, the ENB worked flawlessly. What is happening here?

EDIT: Nevermind, holy crap that solution was so simple I don't know why I didn't think of it sooner. Moonlight Tales was the cause, likely conflicting with Imperius. If anyone else is crashing and has these 2 together, that's likely the cause.

This is strange, because I know it's happened to me before, but I have no memory of how I fixed it. I already edited the Fallout.ini, tried the 3gb patch, and it still occurs. It isn't a crash, and it doesn't happen indoors, it just freezes, forcing me to close it with task manager. Here's my load order fallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmUnofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esmCALIBR.esmFOOK2 - Main.ESMFOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.ESMDCInteriors_ComboEdition.esmiHUD.esmMart's Mutant Mod.esmMothership Crew.esmProject Beauty.esmSydney Follower.espCompanion Core.esmRobCo Certified v2.esmRH_IRONSIGHTS.esmSprint Mod.espCASM.espMart's Mutant Mod - DC Interiors.espUPP - Pack 1.espRobCo Certified v2 Zeta Addon.espRobCo Certified v2 Version Updater.espBetterGamePerformance.espFOOK2 - Main.espSydney Follower - Load Order Fix.espFOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.espFOOK2 - DIK [Hotfix].espWeaponModKits.espMegaton Walkway.espExistence 2.0.espFOOK2 - Main [Hotfix].espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2.espMart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.espMart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.espMart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espUPP - Pack 2.espMart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.espCompanion Core DLC Addon.espRubblePilesFix.espProject Beauty- Broken Steel.espProject Beauty- Point Lookout.espFPS Grenade Hotkey.espFPS Grenade Hotkey - Zeta addon.espRH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Pitt_NewRifleSights.espRH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.espRH_IronSights_PL_NewItems.espRH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.espRH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.espRH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.espWMK-RH IronSights.espMoiraCompanion.espFlora Overhaul.esp Any ideas?

This has become insanely frustrating. The first time I launch OBSE, everything runs fine, until Oblivion inevitably crashes. Afterwards, if I try launching OBSE again, I get the error "couldn't inject dll." Load order: Oblivion.esmCM Partners.esmAll Natural Base.esmOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esmIDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esmTamrielTravellers.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espKnights.espWindowLightingSystem.espLush & Gaudy FG.espP1DkeyChain.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espCreature Diversity.espAll Natural - SI.espAll Natural - Real Lights.espLush & Gaudy Damn Greens GC CH Tree Cull 5.espOOOEquipmentAddon.espLush & Gaudy Damn Greens.espAll Natural.espOblivion_Character_Overhaul.espKvatch Rebuilt.espTyrael Armor.espTamrielTravellers4OOO.espTamrielTravellers.espCM Partners.espKvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - No Daedric Items.espCM Partners More NPCs.espMidasSpells.espCM Partners NPC.espCM Partners Extra NPCs.espCompanion Neeshka.espCM Partners Marker NPCs.espCM Partners Special NPCs.espIDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.espIDKRRR_C_race.espTamrielTravellersItemsNPC.espOblivionReloaded.espOblivionReloadedArenaCombat.espGOSH.espBashed Patch, 0.espxulAncientRedwoods.espxulAncientYews.espxulArriusCreek.espxulAspenWood.espxulBlackwoodForest.espxulBravilBarrowfields.espxulBrenaRiverRavine.espxulCheydinhalFalls.espxulChorrolHinterland.espxulCloudtopMountains.espxulColovianHighlands_EV.espxuldarkforest.espXulEntiusGorge.espxulFallenleafEverglade.espxulImperialIsle.espxulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.espxulLushWoodlands.espxulPantherRiver.espxulRiverEthe.espxulSkingradOutskirts.espxulSnowdale.espxulStendarrValley.espxulTheHeath.espxulCliffsOfAnvil.espxulSilverfishRiverValley.espxulJerallGlacier.espxulTheEasternPeaks.espxulRollingHills_EV.espxulPatch_AY_AC.espDynamic Map.esp

The problem was Obscuros Oblivion Overhaul, probably made a mistake in the install or installed an old version.

I don't get it at all, but I found the culprit, Unofficial Skyrim Patch. I don't know how, or why, but that causes this specific crash. Disabling it let me travel to Solitude.

I swear this has happened to me before at some point but I can't remember how I solved it. I loaded some old saves and confirmed it only crashes if I travel to Solitude after the battle, I can travel there before the battle, and fast traveled to a random cave to see if it was fast traveling in general, and it seems it is just a Solitude issue. I can't figure this one out, so any help would be awesome. Load order Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espHearthFires.esmWyrmstooth.espSkyrim Project Optimization.esmApachiiHair.esmApachiiHairMales.esmRaceCompatibility.esmSkyMoMod.esmnotice board.espLB_MuchAdoSnowElves.esmApachiiHairFemales.esmGeneralStores.esmSkyUI.espChesko_WearableLantern.espWetandCold.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espThe Dance of Death.espdeathwing inspired alduin reloaded.espbetter embers.espFestusKrexSpell.espDifferently Ebony.espOrdinator - Perks of Skyrim.espVexsAnimalsNotMonsters.espCharacterMakingExtender.espEnhancedCharacterEdit.espDual Sheath Redux.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espiHUD.espBeards.espHeadtracking.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espSplashofRain.espdD-No Spinning Death Animation.espBrawl Bugs CE.espDuel - Combat Realism.espAction Combat.espDodge Mod.espDragonCarvedArmorSet.espSilentBackstab.espFusax2.espConvenient Horses.espFollowerAsCompforFllrMods.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espELFX - Exteriors.espCollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.espRealisticWaterTwo.espELFXEnhancer.espBHTNF_Eli.espInigo.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espImmersive Weapons.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espMoar Kontent.espGeralt.espAndromeda.espCampArgentum.espCWIELnFXPatch.espLB_MuchAdoSnowElves_Quest.espDr_Bandolier.espCWINPCImprovements.espGlass Variants.espScopedBows.espTAZ_lighting.espMirielleFollower.espTKcombat.espELFX - NoBreezehome.espHearthfireMultiKid.espHearthfireMultiKid_LastName.espnTr4nc3 - Whiterun Mansion.espWhite River Cottage.espSkyrim Flora Overhaul.espImmersive Music Temples.espImmersive Music Replacer.espRecorder Follower Base.espBrevi_MoonlightTales.espIceBladeOfTheMonarch.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espNightsWatchArmorLight.espBattlemageArmor.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espASLAL - Hearthfire Support.espplayablecreature_pack.espDual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

Thanks but I've solved the problem myself, I installed ENBboost and SKSE patch and deleted several mods, not sure which of the 3 did the trick but something did. I'm facing a new problem though, this however is a specific CTD so I'll make a new thread for it.

Alright, this use to happen once every 2 or so hours so I didn't really care. Now it's completely random, sometimes an hour in, sometimes within 5 minutes, each time it seems like nothing in particular causes it. No specific area, no specific enemy, npc, nothing. If someone can help me figure this out I'd appreciate it. Load order Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espHearthFires.esmWyrmstooth.espSkyrim Project Optimization.esmApachiiHair.esmApachiiHairMales.esmRaceCompatibility.esmSkyMoMod.esmnotice board.espLB_MuchAdoSnowElves.esmApachiiHairFemales.esmGeneralStores.esmSkyUI.espChesko_WearableLantern.espWetandCold.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espThe Dance of Death.espdeathwing inspired alduin reloaded.espbetter embers.espFestusKrexSpell.espDifferently Ebony.espOrdinator - Perks of Skyrim.espVexsAnimalsNotMonsters.espCharacterMakingExtender.espEnhancedCharacterEdit.espDual Sheath Redux.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espiHUD.espBeards.espHeadtracking.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuPlugin.espSplashofRain.espdD-No Spinning Death Animation.espBrawl Bugs CE.espDuel - Combat Realism.espAction Combat.espDodge Mod.espDragonCarvedArmorSet.espSilentBackstab.espFusax2.espConvenient Horses.espFollowerAsCompforFllrMods.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espELFX - Exteriors.espCollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.espRealisticWaterTwo.espELFXEnhancer.espplayablecreature_pack.espBHTNF_Eli.espInigo.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espImmersive Weapons.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espMoar Kontent.espGeralt.espAndromeda.espCampArgentum.espCWIELnFXPatch.espLB_MuchAdoSnowElves_Quest.espSkyrim Flora Overhaul.espThe Pit.espImmersive Music Temples.espImmersive Music Replacer.espRecorder Follower Base.espBrevi_MoonlightTales.espIceBladeOfTheMonarch.espMy Home Is Your Home.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espDr_Bandolier.espCWINPCImprovements.espGlass Variants.espScopedBows.espTAZ_lighting.espNightsWatchArmorLight.espMirielleFollower.espTKcombat.espBattlemageArmor.espELFX - NoBreezehome.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espASLAL - Hearthfire Support.espDual Sheath Redux Patch.espHearthfireMultiKid.espHearthfireMultiKid_LastName.espWhite River Cottage.espnTr4nc3 - Whiterun Mansion.esp

Solved, and it was so painfully obvious I can't believe it, something (most likely ENB) required me to turn off Steam ingame overlay.

Solved, and it was so painfully obvious I can't believe it, something (most likely ENB) required me to turn off Steam ingame overlay.

Wasn't sure if I should put this in mod troubleshooting or technical support so It's in both, if it doesn't belong in one feel free to remove it. So I just got around to re modding Oblivion, installed almost everything with NMM, went smooth, launched without a CTD, but then I got to the main menu, and was greeted with this. (sorry about the link, Steam images can't be posted for some reason) http://images.akamai...6DECAEA59766CC/ I thought "Alright, maybe this is just a menu thing, I can deal with that." And then, I selected new game, and this is what I see next. http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/397804572009854068/1A2798DB4CE8535549B80A32939D1A4980B606F6/ Any help solving this would be great, here is my load order. Oblivion.esm Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm Better Cities Resources.esm IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esm CM Partners.esm Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Knights.esp Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp Creature Diversity.esp Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - No Daedric Items.esp AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp _Real_Lights.esp Better Cities Full.esp Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp xulRiverEthe.esp xulTheEasternPeaks.esp xulCloudtopMountains.esp xulAncientYews.esp Better Imperial City.esp xulBravilBarrowfields.esp Better Dungeons.esp xulLushWoodlands.esp xulCheydinhalFalls.esp xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp xulBlackwoodForest.esp xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp xulChorrolHinterland.esp xulArriusCreek.esp xulSnowdale.esp AliveWaters.esp xulAncientRedwoods.esp xulJerallGlacier.esp xulEntiusGorge.esp xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp xulTheHeath.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp xuldarkforest.esp xulAspenWood.esp xulFallenleafEverglade.esp Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp xulRollingHills_EV.esp xulSkingradOutskirts.esp xulStendarrValley.esp xulPantherRiver.esp xulImperialIsle.esp IlluminationWithin.esp IlluminationWithout.esp mythsandlegends.esp Grass Overhaul.esp Ducks and Swans.esp 24HrArenaAliveV2.esp 24HrArenaAliveV2Towers.esp 24HrArenaAliveLow.esp xulPatch_AY_AC.esp Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp CM Partners.esp Enhanced Water v2.0 ND.esp AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp Ayleid Artifacts.esp Better Cities .esp Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp Immersive Weapons.esp R18PN - Eisen Platte Armor.esp Nightshade_Armor.esp RenGuardOverhaul.esp Gizmodian - Vicious Heart.esp IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp IDKRRR_C_race.esp CM Partners More NPCs.esp CM Partners NPC.esp Crossbows of Cyrodiil.esp Dwemer_Skyship_1_1_0_noQuest.esp Ice Fang Blade.esp Companion Neeshka.esp Oblivion Fragrance.esp Better Cities - Alternative Start Arrive by Ship.esp Jedi LightSabers with Sound.esp Tyrael Armor.esp CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp CM Partners Special NPCs.esp CM Pym.esp UVIII.esp