Alright, I downloaded MaleBodyReplacerv4 and copied everything just like it says to do in the somewhat confusingly-worded readme. I would be perfectly happy with average and pants1. However, after checking the .esp and starting oblivion, anyone wearing any of several shirts is missing their chest. Most people are fine. I am currently in Cheydinhal looking at a beggar with no chest, standing next to a high elf with no chest, who is being attacked by a completely normal looking guard. I scoured the forums, searching for anything that had anything to do with MaleBodyReplacer. All I found was a thread with 1 reply and the replying poster simply suggested using OBMM which I already use. Here is my esp list and load order, minus male body replacer, which was at the bottom trying to see if it was just a load conflict. Oblivion.esm Tamrielic Ingredients.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp AltStartwMQCutOff.esp Oblivion XP.esp Knights.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCThievesDen.esp SM Combat Hide.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp Tamrielic_Ingredients.esp DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp Harvest[Containers].esp Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp TRN One of the Gang.esp BHC_Expanded.esp Enhanced Grabbing.esp MidasSpells.esp KT_CustomRaceFix.esp Custom 3rd person view.esp Enhanced Economy.esp Visually Enchanted 2.1.esp RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp Streamline 2.1.esp SO, if anyone has ANY idea what the frak is going on here, I'd be eternally grateful. I'll be digging through the thousands of files in my data folder trying to determine the culprit and frustrating myself to no end while I wait for a response. Who knows maybe this will turn into a "Tutorial: how to fix invisible chests" thread. About the Shivering Isles question. As you can see I have it installed, I'm running version 1.2, and I've tried disabling the Alt Start mod, but Shivering Isles refuses to load. Any suggestions? PS I'm using the retail GOTY edition installed from the disc.