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My games doesnt even start up, I get the pop up with the play, options and settings screen, then when i hit play the game just never opens. when i disable all mods it works so it must be a modding issue.. I currently use NMM (i know it old but i still prefer it). I used LOOT to make the order order, i had no problems according to LOOT. i had 3 "dirty files" which i tried cleaning them with SSEEdit, didn't seem to help.. I have everything up to date and and tried verifying my game files through steam. still never fixed it. According to LOOT nothing it conflicting, i even tried doing my own load order and still never helped.. Would the best option be to turn each mod on one at a time at test them to find a problem? This is my exact load order copied directly from LOOT 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 254 FE 0 ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 BSAssets.esm 7 7 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm 8 8 RT_Morrowind.esm 9 9 PiratesNorth.esp 10 a ShumerWorld.esm 11 b ShumerNWa.esp 12 c rochester.esm 13 d DA_Skyship.esm 14 e Black Marsh.esm 15 f BSHeartland.esm 16 10 arnima.esm 17 11 HammetDungeons.esm 18 12 ERF - Kerrigan.esm 19 13 RaceCompatibility.esm 20 14 SC_Drow Race.esm 21 15 SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm 22 16 Snow_Elf_Race.esm 23 17 Highrock.esp 24 18 BosmerArmorMATY743.esm 25 19 BS_DLC_patch.esp 26 1a Deep_Elf_Race.esm 27 1b Campfire.esm 28 1c Falskaar.esm 29 1d Daggerfall.esp 30 1e Midwood Isle.esp 31 1f Phoe.esm 32 20 Gray Fox Cowl.esm 33 21 SkyUI_SE.esp 34 22 Vivid WeathersSE.esp 35 23 Black Marsh North.esp 36 24 nile.esp 37 25 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp 38 26 Undeath.esp 39 27 Cutting Room Floor.esp 40 28 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 41 29 TheBawbsShire.esp 42 2a Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp 43 2b Orsinium Reborn.esp 44 2c RT_Morrowind.esp 45 2d Lothbruk Village.esp 46 2e Vominheim.esp 47 2f Helgen Reborn.esp 48 30 RLO - Exteriors.esp 49 31 Original Opening Scene.esp 50 32 DragonStar.esp 51 33 moonpath.esp 52 34 JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp 53 35 SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp 54 36 OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE AIO.esp 55 37 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp 56 38 Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp 57 39 The Haven From The Cold And Dark.esp 58 3a Cloaks.esp 59 3b SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp 60 3c Dwarfsphere.esp 61 3d Artifacts.esp 254 FE 1 DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp 62 3e WZOblivionArtifacts.esp 254 FE 2 DBM_OblivionArtifacts_Patch.esp 63 3f Clockwork.esp 64 40 Winterhold Restored.esp 65 41 Arcanum.esp 66 42 Valenwood.esp 67 43 minotaurplayable.esp 68 44 Ars Metallica.esp 69 45 ShoutPerks.esp 70 46 BetterUnarmedPerks.esp 71 47 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 72 48 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp 73 49 Dwemer Race.esp 74 4a DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp 75 4b MorePlayableRaces.esp 254 FE 3 DBM_AHO_Patch.esp 76 4c Worldtree.esp 77 4d konahrik_accoutrements.esp 78 4e Hardrock.esp 79 4f TheIsland.esp 80 50 Folkvangr.esp 81 51 Tools of Kagrenac.esp 82 52 MiraakFollower.esp 254 FE 4 DBM_TOK_Patch.esp 83 53 Phenderix Magic World.esp 84 54 111KevinVanNordIsland.esp 85 55 The Asteria Dwemer Airship.esp 254 FE 5 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp 254 FE 6 Wintersun - Balance Tweaks.esp 86 56 Undeath Ascension.esp 87 57 Undeath Immersive Lichdom.esp 254 FE 7 DBM_MAS_Patch.esp 254 FE 8 DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp 254 FE 9 CWIOOSEPatchAIO.esp 88 58 ForgottenCity.esp 89 59 WheelsOfLull.esp 254 FE a DBM_Falskaar_Patch.esp 254 FE b DBM_ImmersiveCollegeofWinterhold_Patch.esp 90 5a Dorchadas.esp 254 FE c DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp 91 5b magic of the magna-ge.esp 92 5c bhabhilon.esp 93 5d The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 94 5e Darkend.esp 95 5f FC02.esp 96 60 AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp 254 FE d mihailesocenturion.esp 97 61 Deep_Elf_Extra_Automatons.esp 254 FE e DBM_AetheriumWeapons_Patch.esp 254 FE f DBM_Wintersun_Patch.esp 254 FE 10 DBM_KA_Patch.esp 98 62 Darkglade.esp 254 FE 11 Wintersun - USSEP Patch.esp 254 FE 12 DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp 254 FE 13 DBM_CloaksofSkyrim_Patch.esp 254 FE 14 DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp 254 FE 15 DBM_TheGrayCowlofNocturnal_Patch.esp 254 FE 16 DBM_ArtifactsofSkyrim_Patch.esp 254 FE 17 DBM_Clockwork_Patch.esp 99 63 ktWeaponPackSE.esp 254 FE 18 DBM_WheelsofLull_Patch.esp 254 FE 19 DBM_DevAvezaAirship_Patch.esp 100 64 BVLT - Deep Elf.esp 101 65 TimeAndSpace.esp 254 FE 1a DBM_ktWeaponPackSE_Patch.esp 254 FE 1b DBM_ForgottenCity_Patch.esp 254 FE 1c DBM_Moonpath_Patch.esp 102 66 Spectral Horse.esp 103 67 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp 104 68 Apocalypse - Cheat Chests.esp 105 69 Indoril_Armor.esp 106 6a Neverend.esp 107 6b RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 108 6c RLO - Effects.esp 109 6d Daggerfall - Update.esp 110 6e BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 111 6f Snow_Elf_Race_No_IVG_Smithing_Start.esp 254 FE 1d TOK_AetheriumWeapons_Patch.esp 112 70 SGEyebrows.esp 113 71 UnreadBooksGlow.esp 114 72 Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp 115 73 Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp 116 74 Vivid Weathers SE - Falskaar.esp 117 75 Vivid Weathers SE - Summer Season.esp 118 76 Deep_Elf_Nubbin_Mode.esp 119 77 HighrocklandmassEdited.esp 120 78 FNIS.esp 121 79 RaceMenu.esp 122 7a XPMSE.esp 123 7b RaceMenuPlugin.esp 124 7c StaffOfSheogorath.esp 254 FE 1e CWICRFSEPatch.esp 254 FE 1f WheelsofLull-Skyship.esp 254 FE 20 DBM_StaffofSheogorath_Patch.esp 254 FE 21 WoLPatch-DBM.esp 254 FE 22 DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp 254 FE 23 DBM_UnreadBooksGlow_Patch.esp 254 FE 24 WheelsOfLull - Forgotten City - Bruma Patch.esp 125 7d Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp 126 7e Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 127 7f Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 128 80 Deep_Elf_Ordinator_Patch.esp 254 FE 25 Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp 254 FE 26 CWIOrdinatorPatchSSE.esp 129 81 Open Cities Skyrim.esp 130 82 RLO - Interiors.esp 131 83 RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp 132 84 RLO - CRF Patch.esp 254 FE 27 OCS + LOTD5 Patch.esp 254 FE 28 CWIOpenCitiesSEPatch.esp 133 85 IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp

My games doesnt even start up, I get the pop up with the play, options and settings screen, then when i hit play the game just never opens. when i disable all mods it works so it must be a modding issue.. I currently use NMM (i know it old but i still prefer it). I used LOOT to make the order order, i had no problems according to LOOT. i had 3 "dirty files" which i tried cleaning them with SSEEdit, didn't seem to help.. I have everything up to date and and tried verifying my game files through steam. still never fixed it. According to LOOT nothing it conflicting, i even tried doing my own load order and still never helped.. Would the best option be to turn each mod on one at a time at test them to find a problem? This is my exact load order copied directly from LOOT 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 254 FE 0 ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 BSAssets.esm 7 7 LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm 8 8 RT_Morrowind.esm 9 9 PiratesNorth.esp 10 a ShumerWorld.esm 11 b ShumerNWa.esp 12 c rochester.esm 13 d DA_Skyship.esm 14 e Black Marsh.esm 15 f BSHeartland.esm 16 10 arnima.esm 17 11 HammetDungeons.esm 18 12 ERF - Kerrigan.esm 19 13 RaceCompatibility.esm 20 14 SC_Drow Race.esm 21 15 SkyrimBordersDisabled.esm 22 16 Snow_Elf_Race.esm 23 17 Highrock.esp 24 18 BosmerArmorMATY743.esm 25 19 BS_DLC_patch.esp 26 1a Deep_Elf_Race.esm 27 1b Campfire.esm 28 1c Falskaar.esm 29 1d Daggerfall.esp 30 1e Midwood Isle.esp 31 1f Phoe.esm 32 20 Gray Fox Cowl.esm 33 21 SkyUI_SE.esp 34 22 Vivid WeathersSE.esp 35 23 Black Marsh North.esp 36 24 nile.esp 37 25 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp 38 26 Undeath.esp 39 27 Cutting Room Floor.esp 40 28 CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 41 29 TheBawbsShire.esp 42 2a Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp 43 2b Orsinium Reborn.esp 44 2c RT_Morrowind.esp 45 2d Lothbruk Village.esp 46 2e Vominheim.esp 47 2f Helgen Reborn.esp 48 30 RLO - Exteriors.esp 49 31 Original Opening Scene.esp 50 32 DragonStar.esp 51 33 moonpath.esp 52 34 JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp 53 35 SPTConsistentOlderPeopleSE.esp 54 36 OpulentOutfits_2017-SSE AIO.esp 55 37 AKSkyrimUnderground.esp 56 38 Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp 57 39 The Haven From The Cold And Dark.esp 58 3a Cloaks.esp 59 3b SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp 60 3c Dwarfsphere.esp 61 3d Artifacts.esp 254 FE 1 DBM_HelgenReborn_Patch.esp 62 3e WZOblivionArtifacts.esp 254 FE 2 DBM_OblivionArtifacts_Patch.esp 63 3f Clockwork.esp 64 40 Winterhold Restored.esp 65 41 Arcanum.esp 66 42 Valenwood.esp 67 43 minotaurplayable.esp 68 44 Ars Metallica.esp 69 45 ShoutPerks.esp 70 46 BetterUnarmedPerks.esp 71 47 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 72 48 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp 73 49 Dwemer Race.esp 74 4a DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp 75 4b MorePlayableRaces.esp 254 FE 3 DBM_AHO_Patch.esp 76 4c Worldtree.esp 77 4d konahrik_accoutrements.esp 78 4e Hardrock.esp 79 4f TheIsland.esp 80 50 Folkvangr.esp 81 51 Tools of Kagrenac.esp 82 52 MiraakFollower.esp 254 FE 4 DBM_TOK_Patch.esp 83 53 Phenderix Magic World.esp 84 54 111KevinVanNordIsland.esp 85 55 The Asteria Dwemer Airship.esp 254 FE 5 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp 254 FE 6 Wintersun - Balance Tweaks.esp 86 56 Undeath Ascension.esp 87 57 Undeath Immersive Lichdom.esp 254 FE 7 DBM_MAS_Patch.esp 254 FE 8 DBM_Undeath_Patch.esp 254 FE 9 CWIOOSEPatchAIO.esp 88 58 ForgottenCity.esp 89 59 WheelsOfLull.esp 254 FE a DBM_Falskaar_Patch.esp 254 FE b DBM_ImmersiveCollegeofWinterhold_Patch.esp 90 5a Dorchadas.esp 254 FE c DBM_SkyrimUnderground_Patch.esp 91 5b magic of the magna-ge.esp 92 5c bhabhilon.esp 93 5d The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 94 5e Darkend.esp 95 5f FC02.esp 96 60 AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp 254 FE d mihailesocenturion.esp 97 61 Deep_Elf_Extra_Automatons.esp 254 FE e DBM_AetheriumWeapons_Patch.esp 254 FE f DBM_Wintersun_Patch.esp 254 FE 10 DBM_KA_Patch.esp 98 62 Darkglade.esp 254 FE 11 Wintersun - USSEP Patch.esp 254 FE 12 DBM_BeyondReach_Patch.esp 254 FE 13 DBM_CloaksofSkyrim_Patch.esp 254 FE 14 DBM_AmuletsOfSkyrim_Patch.esp 254 FE 15 DBM_TheGrayCowlofNocturnal_Patch.esp 254 FE 16 DBM_ArtifactsofSkyrim_Patch.esp 254 FE 17 DBM_Clockwork_Patch.esp 99 63 ktWeaponPackSE.esp 254 FE 18 DBM_WheelsofLull_Patch.esp 254 FE 19 DBM_DevAvezaAirship_Patch.esp 100 64 BVLT - Deep Elf.esp 101 65 TimeAndSpace.esp 254 FE 1a DBM_ktWeaponPackSE_Patch.esp 254 FE 1b DBM_ForgottenCity_Patch.esp 254 FE 1c DBM_Moonpath_Patch.esp 102 66 Spectral Horse.esp 103 67 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp 104 68 Apocalypse - Cheat Chests.esp 105 69 Indoril_Armor.esp 106 6a Neverend.esp 107 6b RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 108 6c RLO - Effects.esp 109 6d Daggerfall - Update.esp 110 6e BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 111 6f Snow_Elf_Race_No_IVG_Smithing_Start.esp 254 FE 1d TOK_AetheriumWeapons_Patch.esp 112 70 SGEyebrows.esp 113 71 UnreadBooksGlow.esp 114 72 Vivid Weathers SE - Bruma Patch.esp 115 73 Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp 116 74 Vivid Weathers SE - Falskaar.esp 117 75 Vivid Weathers SE - Summer Season.esp 118 76 Deep_Elf_Nubbin_Mode.esp 119 77 HighrocklandmassEdited.esp 120 78 FNIS.esp 121 79 RaceMenu.esp 122 7a XPMSE.esp 123 7b RaceMenuPlugin.esp 124 7c StaffOfSheogorath.esp 254 FE 1e CWICRFSEPatch.esp 254 FE 1f WheelsofLull-Skyship.esp 254 FE 20 DBM_StaffofSheogorath_Patch.esp 254 FE 21 WoLPatch-DBM.esp 254 FE 22 DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp 254 FE 23 DBM_UnreadBooksGlow_Patch.esp 254 FE 24 WheelsOfLull - Forgotten City - Bruma Patch.esp 125 7d Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp 126 7e Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 127 7f Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 128 80 Deep_Elf_Ordinator_Patch.esp 254 FE 25 Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp 254 FE 26 CWIOrdinatorPatchSSE.esp 129 81 Open Cities Skyrim.esp 130 82 RLO - Interiors.esp 131 83 RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp 132 84 RLO - CRF Patch.esp 254 FE 27 OCS + LOTD5 Patch.esp 254 FE 28 CWIOpenCitiesSEPatch.esp 133 85 IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp