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^^^^^THIS^^^^^ Thank you HeyYou that was it. Loaded up a few plugins without .bsa No issues. Guess I'll wait to finish with this game before i go clean up mods I don't want. Doesn't really help my current situation but now I know appreciate it and thanks everyone who offered advice really appreciate it.

So a large portion of those ESP are flagged as light. My problem is My hard mod limit right now Appears to be 245 esp and 248 esl according to vortex. If I install one additional mod I get start up crash no matter what the mod is. literally anything above that will crash the game. I can uninstall mods and then install different ones up to that limit and again its a start up crash at those numbers. Unless you guys wanna keep picking apart this problem for science I'm over it. I'm just going to play out this character and get rid of mod stuff I don't want when I'm done.

Sent a message but wasn't sure if you would see it. Just wanted to make one last suggestion. I would try looking up a collection and downloading one. a Storywealth collection covers alot of the mods in your load order. It has detailed instructions and it comes prepatched. Follow the instructions to a tee and it works great. I've been modding since I was a kid and I have never had a better experience with this process the collection system is pretty great. As long as you dont install anything to complex after you can even add a few more mods. FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS. Every minute detail and it's excellent.

Sorry took so long to get back to you. Try getting rid of beantown interiors. I just have a feeling. It's one of my least favorite mods to work with or around. Its a nice mod but it conflicts with many many mods always gives me trouble. I'm almost 100% certain It's going to conflict with Sims Settlments 2. They edit many of the same locations, that would have been my first tip if i had seen it.

Screw it here is my load order if it helps. If anyone needs me to take this down because of LL stuff listed in it let me know and I will remove. 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Thanks very much. I will check it out. I'm sure it will help. ------ Edit: Thank you much but, No Dice all my mods that can be converted to ESL are already ESL. Also the Creation club stuff is already ESL anyways isn't it? I don't understand why my mod limit appears to be capping at 245 even though I'm only trying to install ESL. I tried uninstalling a weapon mod and installed one of the ESL's and there was no issue other than a missing mod warning the game started right up. Then tried to install another one and again same issue. I'm being capped at 245 ESP 248 ESL for some reason. Really dont want to mess up this character so I honestly don't mind at this point that I cant get them working. but It's very frustrating looking at this list of money I threw away. I checked for ghost plugins disabled plugins and there is nothing to it. Could it do something with the bashed patch that came with the collection. Not really sure about that particular Items function. I installed mods over it which didn't seem to have an effect or cause issues? Would It be useful to uhh rebash my modlist with the new mods I added to the collection and the Creation club stuff active?

Sounds like you didnt Start a new game. You must always start a new game. Some mods say you can get away with it but that's baloney. once you're ready to start playing you really need to start a new game. If your stuck at a black menu after starting a new game you should try tapping the enter or e key a few times sometimes the mod prompts make it look like an infinite blackscreen.

Topic pretty much says it all. This is my first time to my recollection asking for help on this forum so sorry if I'm doing it wrong. I have 245 active ESP and 248 ESL and my game plays like a buttery smooth flawless dream (Relative to my impressions i guess... its Still a Beth game) Saw the collections thing and thought I would play fallout 4, Havent played any beth games since 76 kinda soured the well for me but i got the itch. I installed some new CC content, A Storywealth collection and a number of additional mods. after much trouble shooting I got a pretty solid build super happy with it and I start actually playing. Im like forty hours into my new character. because of course I am, and I remember I forgot to install all of my old creation club content I have almost all of it. Was prepared to deal with a bunch of headaches troubleshooting it and boy it took alot to only partially figure out what was wrong. I tried to install all at once and of course it didnt work. So I started doing the 50-50 method, then one off testing and eventually I get through all of these mods and Not a single one would start. Even if they all ended up making my game janky being turned on mid game I would still expect at least one of them to actually be able to get past a start menu crash. My game loads to the start menu and if I let it sit the darkened Creation club and Mods button will light up and it crashes three seconds later. It isn't just creation club content its normal mods also. Any mod I install past 245 esp or 248 esl causes my game to crash in this way. I checked and you should be able to install at least 255 esp and an insane number of ESL. I would share my mod list but I dont know if you guys are okay with seeing LL mods in load order. Regardless I'm not sure how that would cause a problem like this. Was able to restore my load order and settings so my character is safe. I really dont want any other mods Im very satisfied on that front but I would like to play some of this creation club content I paid for though, Really like the blue power armor with the racing stripes and the Rottweiler. If anyone can give me advice with provided info I would appreciate it.