lol yeah me 2. i played thru fallout 2 just before i bought fo3, couldnt be bothered doing the "oh im a recruit" at navaro, just strolled in with a bozar and 2000rounds (stolen, naturally) and leather armor. proceded to the nearest elevator, shot everyone. then ducked in and out the elevator (basically infinite ap XDDDD) killed everyone and all turrets, stole plans and chip, ran out, got on boat, armed warhead or w\e, blew up boat, finished the game... oh but wait... it didnt finish! no radiation from the oilrig killed me. no big bad boss could harm me with his crippled arms (yeah he just runs around following u like some fanboy) :whistling: and then u take a trip to new reno, get the fallout 2 guide off the priest who obviosly condones "shortcuts" etc. take a stroll up to gecko, talk to harold, yeah the one with the tree growing out of his head, only its a sapling, laugh at a couple of the funny random encounters (monty python holy grail stuff, star trek, cafe of broken dreams ~dogmeat lol, hitchhikers guide to the galaxy etc) and u know, lvl above 20, but rly becos of the perks every 3 lvls, its equivilant to 60, but still, its a capless game virtually. then u compare that to fo3, fo3, no humor, aside from moira being a total fool no after game extras, only a "hey u do reilise u char did die?" (i was expecting a "but it was not over for the vault dweller, he was hauled out of the radiation by the brotherhood, barely clinging to life.." or some such WEARING TESLA FOR CRYING OUT LOUD AND 10 POINTS ON ENDURANCE fawkes is an ass good ol' "im impervious to all forms of radiation, but still play dead" captain, commander, concierge w\e ur dad barely yells at u for blowing up a city (what a swell guy) star cross paladin looks like a man :unsure: really only 2 vaults are in good shape, and theyre storyline related theres more, but im tired and ur probly not reading. yeah sorry about that, but bethesda really botched up this game. they shouldnt have called it fallout. it was better than the ps2 fallout tho. that was shocking. oh but its not all bad, bethesda made the karma system actually do something. yeah! :biggrin: matt