Felson7

Hi, I've been having a CTD problem and I can't figure out what's causing it. It happens each time I enter an area northwest of Whiterun, near a small pond. I've been playing this game for around 30+ hours and only ran into one crash before (which happened when I started to mine ore.) I used saved game script scalpel to remove unattached instances and didn't experience any crashes after that until now. I'm using SKSE with the memory patch and my memory blocks log tells me it only gets up to around 320-350 before crashing so I don't think it's a memory problem? Not sure. Now papyrus logs have shown different things each time I've reproduced the crash but one thing I've seen that they all have in common seems to be "WidgetError" Reading around, some people said I may need to just rebuild bashed patch and skyproccer patches so I tried that and no luck. I've been playing with just a bashed patch because I read that you shouldn't use both merged and bash patches together but I've tried it with both merge+bash just to test and the same thing happens. LOOT tells me I don't have any load order issues but I know that's not always reliable. Here's my load order: I mainly tried to follow the guides on Realvision and RSE Requiem Survival Experience when installing things but I'm sure I probably screwed something up somewhere. So I thought I'd come here and see if it's something simple before I go screwing things up even more. Here are my INI's (Using presets that came with Realvision with a few tweaks) Skyrim.ini: SkyrimPrefs.ini: enblocal.ini: My system specs: i7 4790k, GTX 980 Ti, 32 GB ram, game installed on SSD (different ssd than OS, not on C:) Thank you in advance for taking a look.

Ok, thank you for your help.

This is my first time playing Long War so I don't know if it's the final boss or not. It was the final boss in the vanilla game: when you use the gollop chamber, assault the mothership, and get to the room with the 3 ethereals. I have 16gb RAM and I've tried shutting down any other apps with game booster like you said, and the crash still happens. I am at the latest patch level for EW on Windows 7, playing the game through steam. The only mod I've installed is Long War 3.0 Beta 15b. I don't have Training Roulette on but I do have Commander's Choice, Hidden Potential and Red Fog. All it says is "XCOM enemy within has stopped working." It happens each time I take a shot at the boss (as soon as I press enter to confirm the attack) and it doesn't matter which unit I use or where I shoot from.

Every time I try to shoot at the final boss the game crashes. I've tried rebooting the game in offline mode and I've tried making a different save and waiting a few turns to attack but every time I go to take the shot, it CTD's.

The problem I ran into tonight was when I tried to go into the friendship metro. When I go in there I hear some ghouls growling and all I can see is black. I checked with Fo3edit and the RezDcLoadlast shows a few conflicts with FWE, unofficial fallout patch and DCinteriors. I've got RezDCSubwayLoadLast.esp last in the load order and RezDCSubway and metros alive esms at the bottom of my esms. Other than that, the game's been running pretty well today with the settings you suggested. Do you think I could possibly increase the audio safely to 8192 to further reduce stutters or is that too high?

When you say to delete the file, which one are you talking about: The one from when I tried to save and it crashed or should I start a whole new playthrough? When it crashed the very first time I reverted back to a save that casm did about 3 saves back.

Yes, those 8 hours were fantastic! I really can't say thank you enough for all the help you've given. I was using the configator before and I can post some of the settings I'm using. I may have messed things up with it for all I know. At the moment, I really don't care so much about textures and graphic quality if I have to sacrifice some of that for stability/performance. Fullscreen : off VSync: off Anisotropic Filtering: off Antialiasing: off (I have these turned off in the configator but have them turned to 8x each on my Nvidia settings. I heard somewhere it's better that way but could be wrong.) Bloom: off HDR: off 3.0 Shaders: off Transparency Multisampling: on Specular effects: on Max Amount of Decals: 100 Max decals per frame: 10 Shadows: on Shadow quality: 1024 Shadow filtering: 2 Max shadows in interiors: 6 Max shadows in exteriors: 6 Grass fade distance: 1500 Light fade distance: 3500 Shadow fade distance: 500 Specular fade distance : 1500 Object fade distance: 15 Item fade distance: 8 Actor Fade Distance: 15 Tree LOD fade: 40000 Object LOD fade: 51000 Land Quality: 1.4 Threaded morpher: on Threaded Blood: on Threaded Particles: on Threaded AI: on Background Pathing: on Models Cloned in Background: on Cells Loaded in Background: on Load Files in background: on Multithread Trees: on Navmesh update in background: on Load lip files in background: on Havok Threads: 4 Render Grass: off Interior Cell Buffer : 24 Exterior Cell buffer: 72 Grids to load: 7 Pre-emptively unload cells: off Unload cells on fast travel: off Use hard drive cache: off Preload size limit: 100mb (tried increasing this to 200mb as I have 16G ram but I got a crash after a few minutes with it that high) Audio Enabled: on Main menu music volume: 0.6 Audio Caching: on Audio Cache Size: 2048 Multithreaded Audio: off ( had to set this to fix freezing on pause menu) Max Impact Sounds: 32 (Another crash occurred once when I tried to do a hard save from pause menu-- as soon as I clicked save, fallout stopped working.)

Ok, I played for about 8 hours so far and I'm getting a decent framerate except it bogs down a bit in really big fights. I got my first crash today: It was after I died and right when the game was about to reload. I tried a purge cell buffers mod but that made me crash almost instantly so I uninstalled it.

Ok, I had the stutter remover settings to fMaximumFPS= 30 to 60 and it was still going too fast in interiors. Do I need to change something in this area? bInject_iFPSClamp = 0 fMaximumFPS = 0 fMinimumFPS = 15 iFPS_Report_Period = 15000 fExtraSleepPercent =0.05

So far it's going pretty well. After trying it like that for a few hours I installed some of the other mods using the load order template suggested on the FWE page and hopefully I have them right this time: Fallout3.esm HairPack.esm Anchorage.esm ThePitt.esm StreetLights.esm BrokenSteel.esm PointLookout.esm Zeta.esm Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm CRAFT.esm CALIBR.esm Project Beauty.esm aHUD.esm iHUD.esm RezDCSubway.esm Metros Alive.esm TheInstitute.esm AWorldOfPainFO3.esm DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm Mart's Mutant Mod.esm ImaginatorFO3.esp DarNifiedUIF3.esp hair_add_npc.esp Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp CASM.esp Realistic Interior Lighting.esp Fellout-Full.esp megalight.esp 1PipboyPDA.esp DynamicCrosshair.esp DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp Distributed Necklaces and Chains.esp No Blur Effect.esp Megaton House and Theme Overhaul.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp Blackened FWE + MMM + Project Beauty.esp WeaponModKits.esp WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore.esp Dree Perks.esp WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp JessiCompanion.esp RezDCSubwayLoadLast.esp merge 1.2.esp Total active plugins: 57 Total plugins: 58 I'm also trying to eliminate stutters and make the game run smoothly on my system using configator settings, but at the moment I'm having an issue where the game speeds up significantly indoors (character running super fast). Is that because the framerate is going too high in interior areas? If so, what should I tweak to fix that? I tried iFPSClamp 60 but that just made everything run at double speed.

I started using FOMM as you suggested and this is my current load order with the basic mods I would like to use: Fallout3.esm Anchorage.esm ThePitt.esm StreetLights.esm BrokenSteel.esm PointLookout.esm Zeta.esm CRAFT.esm CALIBR.esm Project Beauty.esm aHUD.esm iHUD.esm FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm Mart's Mutant Mod.esm DarNifiedUIF3.esp Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp Realistic Interior Lighting.esp Fellout-Full.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp Blackened FWE + MMM + Project Beauty.esp WeaponModKits.esp WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore.esp Dree Perks.esp WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp Total active plugins: 37 Total plugins: 37

Ok, cool I will use that. Do non-Fose mods typically cause a lot of crashes or does it have more to do with my incompetent load order?

Thanks so much for the replies, and sorry for being a noob. I'll try to do everything you guys suggest. I'm using BOSS 2.3.0 but apparently it's not working for me cause it says 0 errors. Is there a better program or updated version of boss I should get? The paradox merger file said that it replaced Mart's Mutant Mod.esmMart's Mutant Mod.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.espMart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.espMart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.espwhich is why I put in those optional esp's for tougher traders, etc. I guess I don't need to because they are merged with the main esp? I can delete those.

OK, so I had it working with no crashes for about 4 hours straight and thought I had it working good, then it started to crash. Now it's back to crashing pretty frequently so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I've done the limit it to 2 cores thing. I'm using FOSE. I've enabled it to use 4gb. I have created a merge patch and run the MasterUpdate with Fo3Edit. I've tried running it in windows xp sp3 compatibility mode. I'm running it as administrator. I'm using gamecompanion for fake fullscreen. I've got archive invalidation invalidated. I've got all autosaves turned off and I'm using CASM. Every hour I do a hard manual save, exit the game and reload the save. I'm using a few mods that are supposed to help with CTD's. My load order: Fallout3.esm Anchorage.esm BrokenSteel.esm PointLookout.esm ThePitt.esm Zeta.esm CALIBR.esm CRAFT.esm FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm Mart's Mutand Mod.esm Project Beauty.esm StreetLights.esm Hairpack.esm aHUD.esm iHUD.esm RezDCSubway Metros Alive.esm TheInstitute.esm Vault 101 Revisited.esm AWorldOfPainFO3.esm DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm ImaginatorFO3.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp Fellout-Full.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp 1PipboyPDA.esp DynamicCrosshair.esp Distributed Necklaces and Chains.esp Realistic Interior Lighting.esp H&K PSG-1 Sniper Rifles.esp ColtM4Carbines.esp Dree Perks.esp FO3 Wanderers Edition - More Gore.esp hair_add_npc.esp Scout Outfits.esp DarNifiedUIF3.esp RezDCSubwayLoadLast.esp WeaponModKits.esp UPP - Beverage Perks.esp UPP - Experience Perks.esp UPP - Original Peks. esp UPP - Pack 1.esp UPP - Pack 2.esp UPP - Quest Perks.esp IMPACT.esp WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp No Blur Effect.esp IMPACT FWE+WMK+All DLCs.esp CASM.esp JessiCompanion.esp Action_Boy_hacking.esp Megaton House and Theme Overhaul.esp megalight.esp Mart's Mutant Mod - DC Interiors.esp DIM TYPE3clothesRETAIL.esp Blackened FWE + MMM + Project Beauty.esp FO3 Error Fixes.esp ColtAnaconda.esp Merge 1.4.esp (I'm using the Paradox Ignition merged esps for all of the mods that can use them.)

Yes, that is correct. The problem started up after I tried to roll back the drivers. I am going to reinstall the game from scratch in another location and see if that fixes it. (Update) Looks like that's working so far, installed it to a different drive and deleted the ini files in my documents and now it will start up. :) Thanks a lot for the help. Now to just figure out what's causing the random crashes.

It's installed in c:\steamlibrary\steamapps\common

I've been having a strange issue with my fallout 3. When I try to start the game in windowed mode, I get this error: "Failed to initialize renderer, windowed mode not supported by this adapter." The problem started when I tried to roll back my NVidia drivers. When I tried to roll them back, the device manager crashed and the problem started occurring. So I reinstalled the original up-to-date drivers, and the problem still happens. I've tried playing the game in fullscreen mode, and it does run. But fullscreen mode doesn't work very well for fallout 3 and I need to be able to run it in windowed to get it to run smoothly with all the mods I have. Before the rollback, the game was running at a good framerate with no stutters in windowed mode with gamecompanion but it was just CTD'ing like crazy (every 5 mins or so at random points). I tried verifying integrity of game cache to see if it was something wrong with .ini files. I've tried uninstalling and fresh installing graphics drivers. I've tried reinstalling directx. I've tried running it with and without mods enabled. Still the same problem. (P.S. Windowed mode DID work with New Vegas today when I tested it. Just fallout 3 is having this issue ATM. In the past I have run Fallout New Vegas on this PC with more than 150 mods with very little CTD for a nearly 200 hour playthrough.) If anyone has any ideas, It would be greatly appreciated. :) i5 cpu 750 @ 2.67 ghz 16 gb ram GTX 660 Windows 7 64 bit