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Morning/Afternoon/Night all,

 

I'm rather new at the whole modding thing, and it was only after playing Skyrim for hours n' hours and cluttering up with mods that I began to run into some... issues. Nothing game breaking, but over time I've collected mods and not all of them will work. There's obviously some conflict going on and I honestly have no clue what mods conflict with which and how to either resolve it or to structure them in a way that functions properly. I'm sure I'll have to remove some of them in favour of others, but I'd like to know which ones are compatible - if only so I can have different lists of compatible imods to choose from. It's also been a long time since I've played so I'm not sure which mods were the ones that didn't work - though I'd hazard it's the ones that I ended up turning off.

 

Don't worry about the save file. I'll start over if I need to and just cheat my way back to where I was or something.

 

I own all DLC - Dawnguard, Hearthfire, Dragonborn, and the High Res Texture Pack (that is turned off because it was an order in one mod instruction).

 

These mods were all installed prior to Dragonborn and Hearthfire.

 

Steam Community Mods:

 

Wyrmstooth

The Frontier to Cyrodil

The Paarthurnax Dilemma

Here There Be Monsters

Spend Dragon Souls For Perks

Prides of Skyrim

Mike's Mystical Mounts

Better Follower Improvements (Is turned off)

Horses for Followers (Is turned off)

Console Books

Sheogorath Shout - Call of Madness!

Kagrenac's Instant Fortress

Marriable Serana

Skyrim Spells and Powers by WarriorKeKe

Call of Trainwiz

Whistle

Magic Duel

Midas Magic

Bandolier - Bags and Pouches

Unread Books Glow

Northern Bathhouses

 

Other Mods (I'm pretty sure they're all Nexus mods, but I may be mistaken):

 

FNIS Behavior Files Versions 3.3.2 (Off), 3.4 Beta (On)

FNIS Behavior 3.5 (On)

FNIS Idle Spells 3.5 (Off)

The Dance of Death 3.3 (Off)

XP32 Maximum Skeleton Dagger N Back 1H Sword 1.4 (ON)

 

Better Males Faces - Nomoreblockyfaces - 1.2 (ON)

Better Males Nudes - erect version - 2.3.2 (ON)

CHSBHC BBP - 2.4.1

UNP Standard BBP and TBBP Nude Body Bouncing Breasts UNP Standard BBP Complete Package - 1.1 - (ON)

Adult Show XXX Potions 1.2 (Off)

Adult Show XXX Spells 1.6 (On)

Better Females by Bella 3.0 (On)

Apachi Skyhair 1.5 (On)

Bathing Beauties - Apachi Hair for Suite Residents - 5.1 (Off)

Bathing Beauties - Luxery Suite 5.1 (On)

Bathing Beauties - SEQ Files for BBLS 5.1 (On)

Dimonized UNP female Body BASE - 1.2 (On)

Migals Housecarl Beauties - 1.01 (On)

 

Vilja in Skryim 1.3 (On)

Rayek's End 0.5 (On)

DYNAVISION 2.2 (On)

 

Note this isn't necessarily the order they load in. I can post the load order if anyone needs it. And I'll keep track of everything everyone says about confliction and keep the lists in the OP so any newcomers to the thread can know what's been sorted and what hasn't been.

 

Thanks in advance to anyone that drops me a line!

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Just popped into the rules thread and it didn't say anything about a double post being against the rules, so I'll contribute while bumping the thread :geek:.

 

Dropped a thread over on 4chon and one anon said load order was super important, so I have it here:

 

Skyrim.esm
Dawnguard.esm
Update.esm
Apachiihair.esm
BBLuxerysuite.esm
Dragonborn.esm (I imagine this should load earlier, but I haven't played since I bought this)
unreadbooksglow.esp
dr_bandolier.esp
fkagrenacsinstantfortress.esp
magicduel.esp
marriable serana.esp
midasskyrim.esp
sheogorath_shout.esp
ssapbwk.esp (Skyrim Spells and Powers by WarriorKeKe)
traincall.esp
whistle.esp
consolebooks.esp
dragonsoulstoperks.esp
northern bathhouses.esp
prides of skyrim.esp
workhorse.esp (must be Mike's Mystical Mounts)
rayeksend.esp
EMcompviljaskyrim.esp
BBluxerysuiteext.esp
BBLSvisitors.esp
BBLSspouse.esp
BBLShousecarlsmovein.esp
housecarlbeauties.esp
Highrestexturepack03.esp
thepaarthurnaxdilemna.esp
thefrontier.esp
wyrmstooth.esp
DYNAVISION.esp
ASX_SPELLS.esp
here there be monsters.esp

The ones in the list that are off are:
hearthfire.esm
Highrestexturepack01.esp
Highrestexturepack02.esp
better follower improvements.esp
horse for follower.esp

 

"Secondly I know that Wyrmstooth conflicts with a number of things." Does anyone know offhand if it conflicts with any of these? I'll cruise over to the page myself for a look, but it might not list everything.

 

He also recommended the /vg/ Elder Scrolls thread on 4chan, and after googling it I found this http://gdriv.es/tesg which seems like a bit of a godsend and is a good place I think to start if I'm rebuilding from the ground up.

 

Edit:

 

Installed BOSS and had it sort my load order and installed TES5Edit and used it to clean dirty plugins as per instructions. Do I need to install Wyre Bash to merge leveled lists?

 

Here's the new order:

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
Hearthfire.esm

Dragonborn.esm
Apachiihair.esm
BBLuxerysuite.esm

Highrestexturepack03.esp

consolebooks.esp

dragonsoulstoperks.esp

here there be monsters.esp

prides of skyrim.esp

whistle.esp

DYNAVISION.esp

dr_bandolier.esp

BBluxerysuiteext.esp

BBLShousecarlsmovein.esp

BBLSspouse.esp

BBLSvisitors.esp

fkagrenacsinstantfortress.esp

northern bathhouses.esp

rayeksend.esp

thefrontier.esp

thepaarthurnaxdilemna.esp
wyrmstooth.esp

marriable serana.esp

unreadbooksglow.esp

workhorse.esp (must be Mike's Mystical Mounts)

ASX_SPELLS.esp
midasskyrim.esp
ssapbwk.esp (Skyrim Spells and Powers by WarriorKeKe)
traincall.esp

sheogorath_shout.esp

FNISspells.esp

magicduel.esp
housecarlbeauties.esp

EMcompviljaskyrim.esp


The ones in the list that are off are:
Highrestexturepack01.esp
Highrestexturepack02.esp
better follower improvements.esp
horse for follower.esp

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Hi, I think you missed something when you were looking at the rules: (just thought you would want to know, since you were concerned enough to try to make sure you weren't breaking the rules)


CHAPTER II - SPAM
Spam is...

1) Posting one liners. Replying to a thread and just saying something like "hey!" "yeah!" "lol" "I agree" "no" etc..
2) Posting the same thread/post repeatedly in order to gain attention.
3) Posting something completely off-topic (OT) that has nothing to do with the thread.
4) Posting in a thread to simply "bump" it back to the top of the forum listings with no additional or useful content.

 

I am not exactly clear on what the "issues" are, exactly. Could you please explain these with a little more detail--

What is the problem (Crashing, freezing, animation glitches, etc.)

Is there any pattern to the problem (place, time, when doing certain actions, etc)

If you have made any changes to your prefs.ini or ini files, could you please list those changes?

 

Finally could you replace the Boss log list you made with a copy/paste of the BOSS log text file (including messages), and enclose it in spoiler tags (you can find them in the pull down menu of the 3rd icon to the left on the top toolbar.)

 

Oh, well, really finally--If you are looking at rebuilding from the ground up, you might also check out the STEP Guide.

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Hi, I think you missed something when you were looking at the rules: (just thought you would want to know, since you were concerned enough to try to make sure you weren't breaking the rules)

 

CHAPTER II - SPAM

Spam is...

 

1) Posting one liners. Replying to a thread and just saying something like "hey!" "yeah!" "lol" "I agree" "no" etc..

2) Posting the same thread/post repeatedly in order to gain attention.

3) Posting something completely off-topic (OT) that has nothing to do with the thread.

4) Posting in a thread to simply "bump" it back to the top of the forum listings with no additional or useful content.

I am not exactly clear on what the "issues" are, exactly. Could you please explain these with a little more detail--

What is the problem (Crashing, freezing, animation glitches, etc.)

Is there any pattern to the problem (place, time, when doing certain actions, etc)

If you have made any changes to your prefs.ini or ini files, could you please list those changes?

 

Finally could you replace the Boss log list you made with a copy/paste of the BOSS log text file (including messages), and enclose it in spoiler tags (you can find them in the pull down menu of the 3rd icon to the left on the top toolbar.)

 

Oh, well, really finally--If you are looking at rebuilding from the ground up, you might also check out the STEP Guide.

 

I get a CTD when trying to run Apachii Skyhair for the Luxury Suite Residents, but I think I might have that figured out.

 

Edit: Nope, I still do. Do you want the working order too?

 

EDIT2: Fixed Apachii Skyhair CTD and am now running all mods I've got downloaded to the point that the save file no longer warns me about any missing content (The mods that are off are Better Follower Improvements, Horses for Followers, and the three Res packs). I wonder if that means I've fixed it?

 

And sometimes whenever I'd attempt to use FNIS animations they wouldn't work properly. Whether it was NPCs simply not doing them or not dressing properly.

 

 

BOSS

Version 2.1.1

 

 

======================================

Summary

======================================

 

 

Plugin Type Count

Recognised (or sorted by user rules) 39

Unrecognised 0

Inactive 5

All 39

 

 

Plugin Message Type Count

Warning 1

Error 0

All 6

 

 

* Your masterlist is already at the latest revision (r6972; 2013-05-26). No update necessary.

* Note: Latest BOSS thread ("http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1457307-relz-boss-for-skyrim/")

* Note: The BOSS team has been overwhelmed with the popularity of submissions of unrecognised plugins from the BOSS Log and the number of outstanding unique submissions. As of 26 April 2013 we are at over 5500+ plugins to add to the Masterlist dating as far back as September 2012. If you are interested in helping to get these plugins added to BOSS's masterlist, please PM Aellis (Bethesda Softworks Forums ("http://forums.bethsoft.com/user/364024-aellis/") or Nexus Mods ("http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?showuser=65745/")).

* Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.

 

 

======================================

SKSE Plugins

======================================

 

 

 

SKSE Version: 0.1.6.13

 

 

======================================

Recognised Plugins

======================================

 

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

 

Skyrim.esm Active

 

Update.esm Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

Dawnguard.esm Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

HearthFires.esm Active

 

Dragonborn.esm Active

 

ApachiiHairFemales.esm Active

 

HighResTexturePack01.esp

 

HighResTexturePack02.esp

 

HighResTexturePack03.esp

 

console books.esp Active

 

dragonsoulstoperks.esp Active

 

here there be monsters.esp Active

 

prides of skyrim.esp Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

whistle.esp Active

 

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp Active

* Note: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for 'bDoDepthOfField'. Make sure it is set to 1.

 

 

SkyUI.esp Active

 

dr_bandolier.esp Active

 

BBLSapachii.esp Active

 

fckagrenacsinstantfortress.esp Active

 

northern bathhouses.esp Active

* Warning: This file contains 2 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") is located here ("http://www.iguanadons.net/Skyrim-Fixing-Navmesh-Deletion-Using-TES5Edit-511.html").

 

 

RayeksEnd.esp Active

 

thefrontier.esp Active

 

the paarthurnax dilemma.esp Active

 

wyrmstooth.esp Active

 

marriable serana.esp Active

 

unreadbooksglow.esp Active

 

workhorse.esp Active

 

ASX_Spells.esp Active

 

MidasSkyrim.esp Active

 

ssapbwk.esp Active

 

traincall.esp Active

 

sheogorath_shout.esp Active

 

FNISspells.esp Active

 

magicduel.esp Active

 

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Active

* Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

horses for followers.esp

 

HousecarlBeauties.esp Active

 

better follower improvements.esp

 

EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp Active

 

 

 

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