Game Freezes and CTD

[imoonkin]

I recently went back to playing skyrim and so i downloaded countless numbers of mods from both Nexus and Steamworkshop. At first there is no crashes at all, but then later on as my mods starts to pile up, freezes starting becoming common to the point of freezing every 5 or 10 minute so i decided it's time to uninstalling some of the mods that I don't use a lot. Despite uninstalling a lot of mods, the crashes still continue so i decided to post here and ask for help. i checked the forum for solutions and saw ppl suggesting using boss, TES edit so i downloaded them for now but i have no clue what to do. Tips and instruction on how to clean the mods are appreciated. Sometime i also got CTD when i load back an save.

 

So here goes the mod list from BOSS

 

Skyrim.esm Active

Update.esm Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Dawnguard.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 607 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
HearthFires.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 171 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Dragonborn.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 57 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
ApachiiHair.esm Active
RaceCompatibility.esm Active
AP Skyrim.esm Active
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active
LB_MuchAdoSnowElves.esm Active
moonpath.esm Active
SPIKE.esm Active
WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm Active
Contains dirty edits: 66 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active
Economics of Skyrim.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Dual Sheath Redux.esp Active
Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+
SabreFurBag.esp Active
trueskyrim.esp
Convenient Horses.esp Active
Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp Active
WetandCold.esp Active
SkyUI.esp Active
iHUD.esp Active
AsharaRadiantRaiment.esp Active
FionaOutfit.esp Active
FlameAtronachArmor.esp
Requires: CBBE female body.
FullBootForKKSA.esp Active
Requires: CBBE female body.
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp Active
Contains dirty edits: 7 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
SkyRe_Main.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Delev}}
Note: If lockpicikng is not work then try to delete 'interface\lockpickingmenu.swf'
Note: If you have a problem with aiming try to install this mod.
Note: To make aiming easier, recommend to add the following lines to Skyrim.ini:
Note: [Actor]
Note: fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000
Note: [Combat]
Note: f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
Note: f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.64
Note: fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
Note: fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0
SkyRe_Combat.esp Active
SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp Active
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
SkyRe_Survivalism.esp Active
SkyRe_Dreamcloth.esp Active
AdalMatar.esp Active
Contains dirty edits: 17 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Note: V1.1+: This file contains 3 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically, and which are reported by the mod author to be harmless artifacts from Creation Kit export.
BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp Active
Warning: This file contains 2 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp Active
CrimsonQuest3.esp Active
Contains dirty edits: 35 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp Active
Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
LB_MuchAdoSnowElves_Quest.esp Active
moonpath_questdata.esp Active
quest into the depths.esp Active
Run For Your Lives.esp Active
When Vampires Attack.esp Active
Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp Active
Requires: CBBE
TheDomain.esp Active
Warning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.
TheFrontier.esp Active
Contains dirty edits: 8 ITM, 1 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Active
Wyrmstooth.esp Active
Headtracking.esp Active
heimskrshutsup3.esp Active
Hide_All_Helms_and_Hoods.esp Active
Immersive Weapons.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
Mannequin.esp Active
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Active
Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp Active
Helgen Reborn.esp
Better Vampires.esp Active
Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp Active
BloodmoonRising.esp Active
Contains dirty edits: 9 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
DragonbornAscendant.esp Active
DragonbornAscendantDawnguardExpansion.esp Active
DragonbornAscendantDragonbornDLCAddon.esp Active
FNISspells.esp Active
ForgottenMagic.esp Active
Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks_Dawnguard.esp
Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp
Requires: Dawnguard version. Remove and install 'Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks_Dawnguard.esp'.
Dual Wield Parrying_ScriptDragon.esp Active
Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp
Requires: Dawnguard version. Remove and install 'Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks_Dawnguard.esp'.
Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks.esp
Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp
Requires: Dawnguard version. Remove and install 'Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks_Dawnguard.esp'.
Dual Wield Parrying_LeftHand.esp
Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp
Requires: Dawnguard version. Remove and install 'Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks_Dawnguard.esp'.
Dual Wield Parrying_DualPowerAttack.esp Active
Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp
Requires: Dawnguard version. Remove and install 'Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks_Dawnguard.esp'.
Dual Wield Parrying_DualAttack.esp
Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp
Requires: Dawnguard version. Remove and install 'Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks_Dawnguard.esp'.
Dodge Mod.esp Active
Locational Damage.esp Active
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Active
Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
Sneak Tools.esp Active
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp Active
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp Active
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Active
OrientalRace.esp Active
Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here.
3DNPC.esp Active
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Requires: RND_USKP-Patch.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Active
RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp Active
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp Active
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Active
SMSkyrim.esp Active
moveit.esp Active
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp Active
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active
ClassicClasses.esp Active
LiFE.esp Active
Requires: CBBE female body or DIMONIZED UNP female body.
SkyRe_Races.esp Active
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Active
ReProccer.esp Active

 

 

Unrecongized ones are

 

 

The Ningheim.esp
highhorothgarexpress.esp Active
werewolfvision.esp
corbal_sculpting.esp Active
unique villages dawnstar retexture.esp Active
TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp Active
murtauh's village.esp
instant mastery.esp
unique villages falkreath retexture.esp Active
unique villages ivarstead retexture.esp Active
unique villages karthwasten retexture.esp Active
unique villages shors stone retexture.esp Active
DarkbroSanctuary1.0.0.esp Active
PiratesofthePacific.esp Active
HearthfireMultiKid.esp Active
LincolnTophat.esp Active
AFTtweak.esp Active

 

 

Sorry for the super long mod list, i will try uninstall some more mods i stopped using or not that important.

Edited May 27, 2013 by imoonkin

[Georgiegril]

First off I'd suggest avoiding using the workshop for mods, for the simple reason that it will automatically update the workshop mods, and even delete them, based on the changes made by the workshop mod author. This can lead to game-breaking problems.

 

Secondly, I would suggest you start a brand new game on a clean install-- or you can find out how to revert to vanilla from the Step Guide.

Play through the opening sequence to the exit from Helgen without any mods or tweaks. (or with the alternate start mod, add only that mod to begin with)

 

After exiting Helgen, start making one or two additions/changes to your game. Before adding any mod, read every word the mod author provides--description, readme, discussion page, everything. Pay attention to known conflicts and required files, and make decisions about whether to try the mod based on all of the available info and your own computer's resources. You may not be able to use some mods in a particular game, or with your computer. Run BOSS, read the BOSS log and address and messages (if it's a mod.) Play the game a bit to test for stability before making one or two more changes.

 

Continue until you have the mods you want working together--then stop. The more you add/remove mods, update mods, etc. in a game, the greater the chance that you will introduce game-breaking problems.

When you get bored of the character, or if you see a bunch of new mods that you are dying to try, start over from the part where you are reverting back to vanilla.

 

Regarding your current BOSS list--the main error is telling you you have the wrong version of that mod installed, and you need to go back and get the correct one from the mod site.

The best way to play unrecognized mods is to go back to the mod site and read where the mod author recommends the mod be placed, If that information is not provided, try putting unrecognized mods with similar mods. (like houses with houses). remember that since BOSS does not recognize the mod, it cannot tell you if there are other issues related to that mod (like conflicts, required master files, etc.) as it would with a recognized mod. So it is important that you have read exhaustively everything the mod author provides in hopes of having the mod work properly in your game.

 

To reiterate, I think you will save a great deal of time and frustration if you start anew, without the workshop mods. But of course that is just my opinion.

 

In the BOSS log you will see a link to the TESVEdit tutorial. You simply need to click that link to learn how (and when) to use that program.

[imoonkin]

thanks for the tip, think i will just restart from vanilla again, i added too many mods without testing them so i have no clue which mods are causing the bloody freeze. Didn't knew i could revert to vanilla and all that.

[imoonkin]

So i reinstalled the whole game and follow a guide on youtube to clean the master files and rechecked my BOSS Log.

 

Here it is

 

 

Skyrim.esm Active
Update.esm Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Dawnguard.esm Active
Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
HearthFires.esm Active
Dragonborn.esm Active
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Active

 

 

Is this "Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}" something i have to worry about ? The guide on youtube don't say anything about these bash tag so I have no clue if i am doing it right or not.

[Georgiegril]

Right, you need not worry about the Bash tag suggestions unless you end up using Wrye Bash.