Heljarchen hall wont appear

[MorrisseyMills]

When i attempt to build heljarchen hall, nothing appears, as though there's some script delay. I've reverted to an earlier save, attempted to complete the "BYOHhousepale" quest via console, waited 72 hours in-game, and uninstalled and reinstalled HF and still nothing will appear. I've built this house with many other characters and i also started lakeview just to see if it was HF that was glitching, however, that doesn't seem to be the case. The misc quest "use the drafting table to begin building your house" wont go away, even if i manually complete it. Any help is appreciated

[AnkhAscendant]

Have you installed any new mods? I seem to remember that there was a "house won't appear" problem after it just came out when using mods that tried to place things like wildlife spawn points inside the area where the house was to be built. I'd figure most have probably been made compatible by now though.

[AndrealphusVIII]

I'm having the same issue. And i'm not using any mod increase wildlife spawns. I do use Hunterborn though, but I don't know if that's the problem. Another thing I noticed was the dragon skeleton bug near the house.

 

Maybe that has something to do with it as well?

 

My load order:

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
SPIKE.esm
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
YngolBarrowButtonFix.esp
KillingTraps.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
RND_BabettesFeast-Patch.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
High Level Enemies.esp
High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp
High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp
High Level Enemies - Raised Ability Caps.esp
Hunterborn.esp
Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp
Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp
SkyUI.esp
HeavyArmorTree.esp
SpeechTree.esp
SmithingTreeDG.esp
ERSO 01 - Vanilla Races Redone.esp
ERSO 02 - Enhanced Fauna and Monsters for Skyrim.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
ERSO 03 - Super Mighty Dragons DD.esp
ERSO 03.3 - Super Mighty Dawnguard Dragons.esp
ERSO 03.4 - Super Mighty Dragonborn Dragons.esp
DeadlyMonsters.esp
ERSO 03.5 - New Dragon Super Loots.esp
ERSO 04 - Mighty Odahviing.esp
ERSO 04.2 - Mighty Durnehviir.esp
ERSO 05 - Dovah Holy Book.esp
ERSO 06 - Wait More Time Dragon Encounter x2.5.esp
ERSO 07 - Mighty Dragon Priests.esp
ERSO 08 - RUS-00 Main plus Dawnguard Dragonborn.esp
ERSO 08.1 - ERSO SUPER MIRAAK.esp
ERSO 08.2 - ERSO SUPER HARKON.esp
ERSO 09 - RUS-Npcs overhaul USKP compatible.esp
ERSO 09.1 - Essential Children.esp
ERSO 13.03 - Higher Skill Cap 125 with perks.esp
ERSO 14 - Vendors richer and Inns more expensive.esp
ERSO 14.03 - Vendor Soul Gems Only Empty And Very Rare.esp
ERSO 14.02 - Harder barter 6-4.esp
ERSO 14.04 - Vendors Without Animal Parts.esp
ERSO 14.05 - Vendor Without Minerals.esp
ERSO 14.06 - Vendor Minor Enchanted Weapons Armors Very Rare.esp
ERSO 14.07 - Vendor Very Less Weapons Armors.esp
ERSO 14.08 - Respawn Vendor Stuff 15 days.esp
ERSO 17 - Training cost 4.0x.esp
ERSO 18 - LAWE Hardcore.esp
ERSO 20 - Standing Stones Overhaul.esp
ERSO 21.01 PM Dungeons.esp
ERSO 21.02 PM Blackreach.esp
ERSO 21.03 PM Dwemer.esp
ERSO 23 - Lockpicking Perks Changes.esp
ERSO 24 - Pickpocket Perks Changes.esp
ERSO 26 - Realistic Fall Damages.esp
ERSO 27 - Better Archery Stuff DawnDborn.esp
ERSO 28 - Killmoves G.esp
ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp
LightArmorTree.esp
Lock Overhaul.esp
Destroy the Thieves Guild.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
AchieveThat.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
DiamondArmorN.esp
DiamondCrossbow.esp
DiamondWeaponsN.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp
LPotD Armor.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp
Earrings Set1.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
Unique Region Names.esp
Mighty Magick - Alteration.esp
Mighty Magick - Alteration Extras.esp
Mighty Magick - Conjuration.esp
Mighty Magick - Conjuration Extras.esp
Mighty Magick - Destruction.esp
Mighty Magick - Dual Casting.esp
Mighty Magick - Enchantments Rebalance.esp
Mighty Magick - Illusion.esp
Mighty Magick - Illusion Extras.esp
Mighty Magick - Restoration.esp
Mighty Magick - Restoration Extras.esp
Mighty Magick - Scaling.esp
Mighty Magick - Voice.esp
ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
Immersive Potions.esp
Kevin's Deadly Poisons.esp
Kevin's Deadly Poisons - TRAPS.esp
disenchantment_font.esp
Duel - Combat Realism.esp
DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
Upgraded Weapons and Armors.esp
Follower Trap Safety.esp
moveitLWT.esp
Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
Enhanced Soul Trap.esp
zMy LPotD Cape Requirement Fix.esp
zMy Gamesetting and Equipment Edits.esp
zMy ERSO 18 - LAWE Hardcore Edits.esp
zMy ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Comp Patch.esp
zMy Diamond Smithing Armor Rating & Melee Damage Edits.esp
zMy Immersive Weapons & Armor Edits.esp
zMy Illusion and Conjuration Perks Edits.esp
zMy Super Mighty Deadly Dragons Edits & Comp Patch.esp
zMy Potions Drinks Food Patch.esp
zMy Ingredients Comp Patch.esp
zMy Perk Comp Patch.esp
zMy Race NO DRAGONS Comp Patch 2.esp
zMy NPC NO DRAGONS Comp Patch.esp
zMy Magic & Spell Comp Patch.esp
Merged Patch 3.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

Thanks in advance

 

Kind regards

Andre

[MorrisseyMills]

hmm, i can't see anything that would mess with animal spawns in that load order, then again i don't know much about mods. However, i did finally get it to work! The first time i tried reactivated HF I still had my mods running, and I deactivated them right before I purchased Heljarchen. What i needed to, and did, do was to deactivating my mods at the same time i deactivate HF. Once you begin building your house (aka build your foundation) you can reactivate your mods.

 

On a side note, when i got all of the unofficial patches they caused all of the glitches that they were supposed to be preventing. try deactivating those as well.

[RadoGamer]

Apparently this is an ongoing glitch/bug, I'm having the same issue so looked around, found this thread over at Steam http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/846942156127673105/ there appears to be no actual fix for the issue and not much info out there.

[Aurihazuma]

I seem to have the problem as well... Would you mind takign a look at my load order?? I have one wildlife mod I thought might have been a problem, but apparently is not.. Tried uninstalling that to no avail.. the load order is long on this one with 184 mods.

 

Load Order::

 

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Falskaar.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
JSwords.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
SM_Archery_Improved.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Breezehome-hf-CTD-fix.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
SplashofRain.esp
IceBreaker's Improved Reverb-v0.02-Cleaned.esp
IHSS.esp
randomthunder.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
AK- Boethiah Alternate.esp
AK- Namira for Good Guys.esp
BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp
BirdsHFclean.esp
BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp
GS.esp
DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
Dwemer Certified.esp
ImprovedFishBASIC.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Vivida ENB.esp
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Book Covers Dawnguard.esp
Book Covers Hearthfire.esp
RealShelter.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
SwiftPotion.esp
TouringCarriages.esp
Tytanis.esp
TytanisDawnguardElementalBolts.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
WetandCold.esp
SkyUI.esp
iHUD.esp
Customizable Camera.esp
DragonSoulConverter.esp
AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp
CompleteBarenziah.esp
Gemtastic.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
MECR_Classic_Nord_Shields.esp
Ring of Change.esp
BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
Breezehomeshelves02.esp
HearthfireMultiKid.esp
HomeSweetStronghold v1.0.0.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
IvarsteadDepository.esp
MavensLetter.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
ResearchThief.esp
Shadowscales.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Wyrmstooth.esp
Weightless Soulgems and Fragments.esp
AchieveThat.esp
FalskaarDawnguard.esp
LongerCraftingDurations.esp
MoreTraining_50.esp
Unique Region Names - Dragonborn.esp
Predator Vision.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
MidasSkyrim.esp
Dwemerverse - Dwarven Magic Package.esp
Waterwalking.esp
Shout-tastic_no CD.esp
Vampiric_Drain_Fix_BloodChalice.esp
hankyench.esp
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
Yield.esp
MorePP.esp
Sneak Tools.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
PerkUP-Alchemy.esp
PerkUP-Alteration.esp
PerkUP-Archery.esp
PerkUP-Block.esp
PerkUP-Conjuration.esp
PerkUP-Destruction.esp
PerkUP-Enchanting.esp
PerkUP-HeavyArmor.esp
PerkUP-Illusion.esp
PerkUP-LightArmor.esp
PerkUP-Lockpicking.esp
PerkUP-OneHanded.esp
PerkUP-Pickpocket.esp
PerkUP-Restoration.esp
PerkUP-Smithing.esp
PerkUP-Sneak.esp
PerkUP-Speech.esp
PerkUP-TwoHanded.esp
Beards.esp
ESPv1_1.esp
3DNPC.esp
VariedCouriers.esp
Follower Trap Safety.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
ImmersiveWater3.esp
WATER.esp
WATER Plants.esp
Atlas Map Markers.esp
Atlas Blackreach.esp
Atlas Dawnguard.esp
Atlas Hearthfire.esp
Atlas Dragonborn.esp
Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp
Unique Region Names.esp
AbsolutMainMusic.esp
fixadriannespeech.esp
BlitzConsoleCommandsMCM.esp
IslandFastTravel.esp
Custom_Markers_with_Notes.esp
PotemaCrashFix.esp
_001_SelfDressingMannequins.esp
_001_SelfFillingBookshelves.esp
seranagreetingsfix.esp
Shadowmere and frost speed boost.esp
Unkillable Shadowmere.esp
SkyrimConfigMenu.esp
Stolen Souls.esp
TrickShot.esp
weightless item sorting hearthfire.esp
LPAlchemyTweaks.esp
LPMoreIngredients.esp
LPWeightlessIngredients.esp
V740T_MGolDinS&M.esp
Miraak's Mask Fix.esp
Mystical Illumination.esp
03_solstheim_extendend.esp
02_solstheim_extended.esp
Stuck In Solstheim.esp
Tel Mithryn BedBugFix.esp
whisperingdoorfix.esp
Alternative Input for Tel Mithryn.esp
AtronachForgeFix.esp
Dawnstar Sanctuary Redone.esp
Double Effect.esp
Dragon Cliff Manor.esp
Falskaar Home Improvement.esp
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp
helgen rebuild.esp
helgen rebuild v1.esp
helgen rebuild v2m.esp
helgen rebuild v2.esp
cpdremorabutler.esp
Lakeview overhaul.esp
lakeviewdock1.2.esp
LakeviewManorRoad.esp
DSLakeViewPassage.esp
Midas Magic Expanded.esp
NoOppositeSex.esp
Svs Collection Jewelry.esp
The Gemstone Collector.esp
WhitewaterFalls.esp
DF127VileLair.esp
super bow.esp
HolyArmor.esp
middenexpanded.esp
TavernClothes-MTM.esp
WaterfallsHome.esp
Real Wildlife Skyrim 0.1.esp

 

 

 

Thank you so much..

[JKalenad]

I may have discovered a cause to the problem when Heljarchen Hall will not build properly.

My character built Lakeview Manor, but I forgot she even owned it. I had just begun building an addition to it when I started building Heljarchen Hall, which of course did not appear, despite using resources.

 

When I discovered that she owned Lakeview Manor, I visited it, only to find that the doors to the completed Enchanter's Tower were embedded in the indoor walls. I think the Main Hall for Heljarchen Hall was built at Lakeview Manor instead. Using the console to build the Enchanter's Tower again solved this.

 

Basically, it seems that (at least in my experience) starting a new house while in the process of building a new one can cause issues.

I'm going to complete Lakeview Manor and see if doing so will make Heljarchen Hall appear or at least be buildable.

 

EDIT: Finishing Lakeview Manor didn't help. I'm going to live in Hjerim instead.

Edited August 24, 2013 by JKalenad

[Aurihazuma]

I noticed the embedding of the walls thing.. I then chose to reset the quest for Heljarchen and got ti to go back to ground zero.. Lakeview won't budge after this. Heljarchen has been rebuilt totally... I had also finished lakeview before building Winstad and it is stuck as well. The kids are currently stuck in lakeview as every time I try to move them and reclaim my items before wiping the house then I get stuck inside and have to coc to riverwood.. I can make it there, but then I notice game save corruption.. e.g. slow loads, infinite loading screens, that stupid drake that I bumped off a while back reappearing again in the middle of the yard.. and now not being able to speak with NPCs.. I'm way into the game with only one more DLC to play..

 

How do I use the console to insta-build.. I found a set of batch files for supplies, but it is not quite the same as you mentioned.

[JKalenad]

Yeah, finishing Lakeview Manor didn't help Heljarchen Hall, and the glitchy walls are back at the Manor.

The way I used the console to rebuild before was typing, as written

 

help "Library"

(or whatever thing you're rebuilding)

 

and scroll up find the codes, labeled MISC.

I think Lakeview Manor's items are the lowest numbered codes, but I honestly don't know.

Then type

 

player.additem ####### 1

 

You have to do that for every piece of the addition or it wo'n't work as far as I know, and I know very little about code.

Do so carefully and at your own risk! My way is probably the worst workaround possible.

Also, I think my Lakeview Manor is broken now. I did some things out of order, and now I have two sets of doors, one leading to Falkreath Hold, and one leading to the addition, but the wall is in the way, so I ca'n't get in.

 

Also, player.removeitem does not deconstruct the house as you may think it might.

[MorrisseyMills]

@Jkalenad, come to think of it, i was currently building lakeview, however i dont recall having many problems with it. one problem i had was when i built a stable, it appeared elsewhere, and the horse never did appear.

 

@aurihazuma, i would attempt to disable your unofficial fixes. those seemed to be the problem for me. my guess would be one of those fixes is aimed at fixing that mod and then beth fixed it in an update causing conflict witch canceled each other out.