CTDs in random locations

[ZeroSbr1]

So I get CTDs at random places, like Eldergleam Sanctuary and now I'm getting CTDs when trying to go to areas a part of the main questline, and sometimes just when strolling around in Whiterun. The fact of the matter is, these CTDs are random and annoying. Here's my load order as shown in Wrye Bash:

 

Active Mod Files:

• 00 Skyrim.esm [CRC: C665FD56]

• 01 Update.esm [CRC: 9D4C690E]

• 02 Dawnguard.esm [CRC: B555456B]

• 03 HearthFires.esm [CRC: C802D71C]

• 04 Dragonborn.esm [CRC: 31200F46]

• 05 ApachiiHair.esm [CRC: 783F7167]

• 06 ApachiiHairFemales.esm [CRC: 19C7CD80]

• 07 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm [CRC: D2D5FFD9]

• 08 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm [CRC: 918881A7]

• 09 JSwords.esm [CRC: 750F98CA]

• 0A Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm [CRC: 2DEDA5C1]

• 0B SkyMoMod.esm [CRC: 5911C113]

• 0C SPIKE.esm [CRC: 418D8B2F]

• 0D SoS - The Dungeons.esp [CRC: E4D42A69]

• 0E SoS - The Wilds.esp [CRC: 3D64C8AA]

• 0F SoS - Civilization.esp [CRC: A8E5FAB0]

• 10 DA_Skyship.esm [CRC: 63CDB5F1]

• 11 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [CRC: E80B3B56]

• 12 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [CRC: D2BFD4FE]

• 13 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [CRC: 7F7F4F60]

• 14 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [CRC: FE445CE5]

• 15 uskp_addon.esp [CRC: F1075B8C]

• 16 Better Dynamic Snow.esp [CRC: F3204EF1]

• 17 Clanking Armor.esp [CRC: DD039D67]

• 18 StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp [CRC: 7985AB43]

• 19 StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp [CRC: F13BBE86]

• 1A TradeBarter.esp [CRC: AC24F58B]

• 1B Dual Sheath Redux.esp [CRC: 10FAFEDD]

• 1C Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Magic Light.esp [CRC: F68FDE81]

• 1D Book Covers Skyrim.esp [CRC: EC1B5596]

• 1E Book Covers Dawnguard.esp [CRC: 1EE98D2B]

• 1F Book Covers Hearthfire.esp [CRC: BE6F6E26]

• 20 JSwords_Load_Screens.esp [CRC: E0A750D1]

• 21 Uncle Sheo does JaySuS NO TITLE.esp [CRC: BFB79BB5]

• 22 WetandCold.esp [CRC: B331E93A]

• 23 WetandCold - Ashes.esp [CRC: 3360FF37]

• 24 SkyUI.esp [CRC: BA843F07]

• 25 iHUD.esp [CRC: 6633B25E]

• 26 AmuletOfTheNine.esp [CRC: 963FFBB5]

• 27 Insanity's Sorrow.esp [CRC: D7C575A5]

• 28 isilNarsil.esp [CRC: EACC6016]

• 29 JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp [CRC: 370CE7D4]

• 2A LeftHandRings.esp [CRC: DC80D7C2]

• 2B LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp [CRC: 0B97486E]

• 2C LPotD Armor.esp [CRC: 9649E938]

• 2D LpotDHorse.esp [CRC: 31BBA90F]

• 2E LustmordVampireArmor.esp [CRC: FFF1DD62]

• 2F SoBL.esp [CRC: C58C88AF]

• 30 TERAArmors_CBBE.esp [CRC: 5CC62D81]

• 31 DeadlyDragons.esp [CRC: 295EE682]

• 32 ERSO 03 - Nightmare Mighty Dragons Unleveled DG.esp [CRC: EA143ECC]

• 33 ERSO 03.3 - Nightmare Dawnguard Dragons.esp [CRC: A51233DA]

• 34 ERSO 03.4 - Nightmare Dragonborn Dragons.esp [CRC: C08F3651]

• 35 DeadlyMonsters.esp [CRC: 1FCAC1D0]

• 36 ERSO 03.5 - New Dragon Super Loots.esp [CRC: C90C136E]

• 37 ERSO 04 - Mighty Odahviing.esp [CRC: F65E4159]

• 38 ERSO 04.2 - Mighty Durnehviir.esp [CRC: 9C632E4F]

• 39 Masters of Death.esp [CRC: D96C2FAC]

• 3A Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp [CRC: BD421FB8]

• 3B Lyn_RealArrows_FasterArrows.esp [CRC: FF77522C]

• 3C Lyn_RealArrows_NoArrowTrails.esp [CRC: FC5A0B4D]

• 3D Lyn_RealArrows_NoArrowHitStereoEffect.esp [CRC: DC829FDD]

• 3E dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp [CRC: B9F89854]

• 3F dD-DG-DB-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp [CRC: 3C10641C]

• 40 dD-No Screen Blood.esp [CRC: 3C714C0F]

• 41 dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp [CRC: 56407C36]

• 42 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp [CRC: 73281F16]

• 43 Uncle Sheo.esp [CRC: 68AE88EF]

• 44 Uncle Sheo does Dawnguard.esp [CRC: FB9AF0BC]

• 45 Uncle Sheo does Hearthfire.esp [CRC: EBB59697]

• 46 Skyrim unleashed_items.esp [CRC: 25B243EE]

• 47 Skyrim unleashed_npc.esp [CRC: 0D7C23C1]

• 48 Skyrim unleashed_Hardcore_npc_addon.esp [CRC: FCA1E395]

• 49 Skyrim unleashed_crafting.esp [CRC: D7AF3526]

• 4A Skyrim unleashed_enchantments.esp [CRC: D2CAAF6A]

• 4B Skyrim unleashed_leveling.esp [CRC: CBE8F327]

• 4C ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp [CRC: 75A1B6EA]

• 4D ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp [CRC: 9D7312A5]

• 4E ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp [CRC: 9FFF2A85]

• 4F ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp [CRC: 67CA961C]

• 50 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp [CRC: B61E85AE]

• 51 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-5.esp [CRC: 7D4ED33A]

• 52 SoS - The Dungeons-PatchCoTHardcore.esp [CRC: 7141403D]

• 53 SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp [CRC: 809A34DA]

• 54 SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoTSounds.esp [CRC: 53090D51]

• 55 SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp [CRC: A82D649E]

• 56 SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp [CRC: E023E60D]

• 57 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp [CRC: 910FBBF3]

• 58 GodElfRace - Dawnguard compatible.esp [CRC: 407B217E]

• 59 Better Vampires ML.esp [CRC: AEEB417C]

• 5A FNISspells.esp [CRC: 09CE8669]

• 5B UltimateCombat.esp [CRC: 972918C8]

• 5C The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp [CRC: 07BD9FF9]

• 5D Path of Shadows - Sneak Settings.esp [CRC: 8C052588]

• 5E Skyrim Perk Enhancements.esp [CRC: 3A3FDF2C]

• 5F SPERG Dawnguard Patch.esp [CRC: 730802BD]

• 60 SPERG Dragonborn Patch.esp [CRC: 5F78B5AA]

• 61 SPERG Trade Barter.esp [CRC: 1FCCD356]

• 62 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [CRC: 5F107161]

• 63 3DNPC.esp [CRC: 854F1D2D]

• 64 WOME_Galadriel.esp [CRC: 7B11FE1F]

• 65 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp [CRC: D6C72A3C]

• 66 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [CRC: 38D04A24]

• 67 WATER.esp [CRC: AADB5181]

• 68 WATER DB.esp [CRC: EDD7AF68]

• 69 Light Sword.esp [CRC: 227D1809]

• 6A Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp [CRC: 145EADD2]

• 6B GrassOnSteroids_Short.esp [CRC: BDBDAA7E]

• 6C TheOneRing.esp [CRC: 686414CA]

• 6D Silvan_Armor.esp [CRC: C535587A]

• 6E DA_Skyship_Dragonborn.esp [CRC: E8B857E9]

• 6F Fhaarkas Font Mod - SkyUI.esp [CRC: E1E280EC]

• 70 PCEA - 0 - DG and DB DLC - All Races.esp [CRC: AFF418CA]

• 71 Bashed Patch, 0.esp [CRC: 4A1FEFDB]

Long load order, and I know it's a lot to ask you guys to examine it, but do try. I'm 99% sure all these mods are compatible in some shape or form. I have the necessary textures/meshes for maximum compatibility as well. Anything you guys can find out would be great. Feel free to ask questions.

[prod80]

Maybe you've edited your Skyrim.ini uGridsToLoad? If you did revert back to ugridsToLoad=5 and uExterior Cell Buffer=36 ...follow procedure to change back or your save games will not open.

 

If that's not the case ... when did this start to happen and; was it with the current mods stable before, or have you installed large batches (or all) mods together? Can you post a log of BOSS (recognized/unrecognized)?

[ZeroSbr1]

No, I don't mess around with uGridsToLoad anymore. My save games open, but then they crash when entering certain areas. This all started to happen a few days ago. Yes, I tend to install mods in batches unfortunately, so I don't have a clue as to which mod could be causing the CTDs. Here's the log.

[prod80]

Well... other than uninstalling whatever you have installed lately and reverting back to an older save to try and figure out which mod might cause this, I would not know. I cannot see a mod in that list from which I know it can cause random CTDs. I did have some issues with the high res version of Enhanced Blood, but I think it was related to my system rather than the mod itself.

 

You could try and monitor your system's resources and check if it's not always running on it max capacity (RAM). Fact is you say Evergleam Sanc. which is an interior space... so, it's small... system resource issues mostly show in the outside world where it's stressed the most... however it is something you could look into.

[ZeroSbr1]

Thing is, I know for a fact it isn't my system. I've been able to run the game just fine. Got a decent gfx card, and I'm gonna get a better processor soon too. It has to be a mod problem, there's really no other explanation. I've also tried starting new games, all to no avail. I guess I just have to keep dorking with it until either I or someone else comes up with a solution.

[ZeroSbr1]

Alright. I think I may have found the problem. I (foolishly) tried to merge Stones of Barenziah Locations with Sound of Barenziah into the SoBL .esp a while ago. I noticed it didn't have the effect I desired, yet it didn't do anything harmful. More recently I installed Climates of Tamriel, which has sound components. Then I had to download compatibility patches for it to work with Sounds of Skyrim. I guess somewhere in the process the fact that I just straight up merged the files and went with it caused CTDs.

 

Note: I am NOT sure if this is what was causing my CTDs. I'll give you guys an update when I can.

 

EDIT: Nope. Still getting CTDs. I seriously don't know why because I installed all my mods correctly, .esp/.bsa and loose alike. I always check comments to see if the mod in question has any glaring problems, and I practice all those good user habits. I just don't know what to do.

 

EDIT(2): Now it runs fine, except it still CTDs whenever I use the grindstone. ANY grindstone.

Edited June 4, 2013 by ZeroSbr1