"The Truth" commercials

[PureSnipe]

So you made those numbers up then?

 

I'm in no way promoting drug use, I just don't like people making something up then making a claim that it's scientific proof.

[t3hf4ll0ut]

So you made those numbers up then?

 

I'm in no way promoting drug use, I just don't like people making something up then making a claim that it's scientific proof.

No-no-no. I'm not saying it's scientifically proven. Potheads will be potheads, and a pothead is lazy. It's not scientifically proven, because it simply doesn't have to be. It's kind of obvious if you've hung around stoners in your teen years.

[PureSnipe]

So you made those numbers up then?

 

I'm in no way promoting drug use, I just don't like people making something up then making a claim that it's scientific proof.

No-no-no. I'm not saying it's scientifically proven. Potheads will be potheads, and a pothead is lazy. It's not scientifically proven, because it simply doesn't have to be. It's kind of obvious if you've hung around stoners in your teen years.

 

I was referring to the numbers you had. Not the fact that potheads are lazy, for I know they are.

[t3hf4ll0ut]

So you made those numbers up then?

 

I'm in no way promoting drug use, I just don't like people making something up then making a claim that it's scientific proof.

No-no-no. I'm not saying it's scientifically proven. Potheads will be potheads, and a pothead is lazy. It's not scientifically proven, because it simply doesn't have to be. It's kind of obvious if you've hung around stoners in your teen years.

 

I was referring to the numbers you had. Not the fact that potheads are lazy, for I know they are.

Those numbers are my opinion. I'm not saying it's 100% correct, it's just easy to get addicted to most drugs, and tobacco.

[evilkoal]

and what does lazy constitute, not having 4 jobs? or coming home from work and enjoying a nice game and something to eat? maybe going out on the weekends and socializing?

 

because all the potheads i know have jobs, live by themselves, and a couple of them even have families.

[PureSnipe]

My reference, and I'm pretty sure his was too, was to teens. Sorry if that wasn't clear enough.

[jaysus]

potheads are lazy???? LOL

id say keep your prejudices to yourself...

if you ever smoked pot youd know that you just start to think more about things instead of just blindly doing them

 

and as to drugs... everything in your life is a drug, sex, chocolate, a steak, a graduation, bungee jumping... whatever you name it all events and substances have a substantial effect on our brain and its structure...

pot as you call it is one of the few substances on this planet our brain even has receptors for even before we ever smoked it... babies are ready for it so to speak, you get born being a ganja user...

LSD like substances are probably the only reason we evolved from monkeys to space travelling beings as it heavily modifies the brain and transports that over to the next gen by the dna...

im not saying "go out and use any drug you can" as some have serious side effects tho, like do most things in this world...

god/nature gave us all these things to use (apart from that synthetic crap), each herb has a use but knowing that makes us worse slaves as we wouldnt be dependant on 90% of all sold medicals anymore... and that would take a substantial part of the rothshilds power back into the hands of the people... so we will prolly have these laws until nature is destroyed fully and there is no choice left but to put a shackle round our ankles ourselves...

 

so either stand up and do what you deem right or keep up blaming others for their lifestyle cause thats what you were taught...

 

you might now say im a crazy conspiracist lol but mind i actually grew up in a totalitarian country, now im thought to be grateful im living in the democratic free west but honestly i must say its all the same, no free choice, political imprisonment, extortion, murder, slavery... you name it...

 

these commercial are a good example of this fake freedom as they tell you somin, claiming the truth for themselves, claiming to help the people but all they do is drive a wedge between families and friends, point with a finger instead of solving problems... why do you think so many kids smoke pot? not cause its so funny but cause they are utterly bored, there is no wood to play in, no animal to pet, no courtyard to play ball... all you can do is live through such experiences in tv and weed indeed enhances that experience... and we can go on why are there no woods and so on left? cause some in power, namely the rothshild family for example, dont want us to enjoy life but become mindless slaves... as mentioned yet...

 

another point is the contamination of weed nowerdays, actually since 3 years!!! my research told me that it more or less comes from one source in germany... is being sold to the netherlands and from there on distributed throughout europe... the government doesnt care as they say its illegal to smoke it anyway, but it isnt!!! at leats in germany the ownership is illegal not the use, and therefore they more or less sanctioned murder and heavy bodily harm as legal!!! i can only think that whole "lets contaminate da weed" is a government idea and job... and what can you do? not more than you could in china or nazi germany...

 

its devastating...

[Marxist ßastard]

pot as you call it is one of the few substances on this planet our brain even has receptors for even before we ever smoked it... babies are ready for it so to speak, you get born being a ganja user...

LSD like substances are probably the only reason we evolved from monkeys to space travelling beings as it heavily modifies the brain and transports that over to the next gen by the dna...

 

its devastating...

So in other words, Lamarck was right?

[PureSnipe]

potheads are lazy???? LOL

id say keep your prejudices to yourself...

if you ever smoked pot youd know that you just start to think more about things instead of just blindly doing them

 

and as to drugs... everything in your life is a drug, sex, chocolate, a steak, a graduation, bungee jumping... whatever you name it all events and substances have a substantial effect on our brain and its structure...

pot as you call it is one of the few substances on this planet our brain even has receptors for even before we ever smoked it... babies are ready for it so to speak, you get born being a ganja user...

LSD like substances are probably the only reason we evolved from monkeys to space travelling beings as it heavily modifies the brain and transports that over to the next gen by the dna...

im not saying "go out and use any drug you can" as some have serious side effects tho, like do most things in this world...

god/nature gave us all these things to use (apart from that synthetic crap), each herb has a use but knowing that makes us worse slaves as we wouldnt be dependant on 90% of all sold medicals anymore... and that would take a substantial part of the rothshilds power back into the hands of the people... so we will prolly have these laws until nature is destroyed fully and there is no choice left but to put a shackle round our ankles ourselves...

 

so either stand up and do what you deem right or keep up blaming others for their lifestyle cause thats what you were taught...

 

you might now say im a crazy conspiracist lol but mind i actually grew up in a totalitarian country, now im thought to be grateful im living in the democratic free west but honestly i must say its all the same, no free choice, political imprisonment, extortion, murder, slavery... you name it...

 

these commercial are a good example of this fake freedom as they tell you somin, claiming the truth for themselves, claiming to help the people but all they do is drive a wedge between families and friends, point with a finger instead of solving problems... why do you think so many kids smoke pot? not cause its so funny but cause they are utterly bored, there is no wood to play in, no animal to pet, no courtyard to play ball... all you can do is live through such experiences in tv and weed indeed enhances that experience... and we can go on why are there no woods and so on left? cause some in power, namely the rothshild family for example, dont want us to enjoy life but become mindless slaves... as mentioned yet...

 

another point is the contamination of weed nowerdays, actually since 3 years!!! my research told me that it more or less comes from one source in germany... is being sold to the netherlands and from there on distributed throughout europe... the government doesnt care as they say its illegal to smoke it anyway, but it isnt!!! at leats in germany the ownership is illegal not the use, and therefore they more or less sanctioned murder and heavy bodily harm as legal!!! i can only think that whole "lets contaminate da weed" is a government idea and job... and what can you do? not more than you could in china or nazi germany...

 

its devastating...

 

On your statements that humans are born with receptors meant to interpret one single drug? Not true. A human is born with cannabinoid receptors in order to interpret endogenous cannabinoids, which our body produces and uses to regulate the synaptic signals sent through the brain. THC closely resembles the compound that the body produces, thus affecting it as it does, by altering the neurological pathways in the human brain.

 

The majority of the other drugs affect chemicals that our body already produces, such as dopamine and seratonin. EX increases the production of both, inducing a state of euphoria, since those two endorphines are the "feel good" endorphines.

 

Let me further elaborate on my point of a drug only being bad when it's misused.

 

I've been diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder, along with numerous other things that I won't get into. Bipolar Disorder is an inbalance between potassium and sodium in the brain, so I take lithium to fix that. Escalith to be more precise. Lithium is the third element in that particular elemental triangle, so it shares properties of both potassium and sodium and the human brain is able to interpret it as either of the other two that has the lower levels. Those elements/chemicals naturally occur in the human brain, and all that this drug/chemical does is alter the levels. It has nothing to do with receptors being specific for that drug.

 

As a result of my Bipolar Disorder, I also suffer from clinical depression. As such, I take an anti-depressant that stimulates the production of dopamine and seratonin. Look a little higher in my post to see what also does that.

 

If used correctly, any drug can be helpful.

 

And my statement of potheads being lazy - let me further elaborate on that, as I speak from what I've seen it do to my friends.

 

The way that pothead is defined around here: A person that smokes marijuana very often, and not only when they have nothing else to do. They smoke it on a lunch break, in their car, before and after work or school, and can't wait until they get to have their next high.

 

Three friends, all smart kids, are avid smokers of marijuana. Each of them is failing one or more class, and this wasn't happening until they picked up the habit of smoking weed. The ones that do it more, recreationally, aren't in the same boat as those three.

 

Weed is a hallucinogen primarily, while sharing properties of both a depressant and stimulant in cases. While one is high on weed, time seems to pass more slowly, and you are more relaxed, not feeling the need to do anything to occupy your time. And since it has hallucinogenic properties, when you try to focus on a task, that concentration is shattered by the inability for the human brain to relay the signals being sent. Essentially, the more you smoke, the less you get done.

[ed8020]

I cringe almost every time I see one of those Truth commercials, but I have a feeling that’s exactly what they want me to do. Turn away in disgust. I think it’s a very good tactic to get through to kids and I believe that is whom they should be for. For the most part it won’t work on adults. Even if I believe every word they say (and I haven’t seen anything yet that says I shouldn’t), I’m still smoking as I write this.

 

As for those ATI ads, I think they have a shot at doing something good for children. After all, Trix are for kids, drugs (alcohol included) are for adults. The one where Lindsay (I think) is talking with her dog, or rather her dog is talking to her, was a good one. Though I think she’s using something far worse than pot. God knows my dog never spoke to me, though I think my cat was leaving me post it notes.

I kind of miss those “this is your brain on drugs” ads though, they were very entertaining. That one where the chic smashes the kitchen with a pan was pure gold. There’s actually an extended version they did on Robot Chicken that is hilarious.

 

At best, they are a little disgusting and at worst they have slightly more credibility than Reefer Madness. They should focus entirely on the children (under 12) and go with a more Smurfish style. If they really want to get through to adults they need something more like “Who Wants To Be A Cancer Survivor” or “America’s Next Top Junkie”. Prime time baby. If a label on the pack that basically says “theres a good chance these will kill you” doesn’t work, a 30 second spot on TV isn’t going to.

 

Well that covers what the thread topic started as. Now for where it has gone.

I believe that every city in the US should buy a couple dozen billboards that say this:

WARNING: EVERYTHING MAY BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR HEALTH OR SAFETY. Wash your hands, read all instruction manuals in their entirety and don’t stick that in your mouth. Too much of anything is NOT a good thing.

Wear sunscreen.

 

I know that sounds like a total joke but I’m serious (maybe not about the exact wording). The world is not a safe place. In the immortal words of Stuart Smalley, “It is better to put on slippers than try and carpet the world”

 

No-no-no. I'm not saying it's scientifically proven. Potheads will be potheads, and a pothead is lazy. It's not scientifically proven, because it simply doesn't have to be. It's kind of obvious if you've hung around stoners in your teen years.

I have to agree with this though the words "teen years" are the key factor.

Once you actually have to support yourself "laziness" is no longer an option.

and what does lazy constitute, not having 4 jobs? or coming home from work and enjoying a nice game and something to eat? maybe going out on the weekends and socializing?

because all the potheads i know have jobs, live by themselves, and a couple of them even have families.

That pretty much describes my sample group.

They all fall into a few categories.

We are all full time or self employed, or homemakers.

All between the ages of about 23 to 54.

A couple of the younger of these have children while a couple of the older have grandchildren also.

One of them finds relief from a disability in pot though that’s not why he smokes it.

Just as we say prostitution is the oldest profession, getting stoned is probably the oldest pass time.

And though there may be reasonable justification for the illegality of manufactured chemicals, where substances in their naturally occurring state are concerned (herbs, fungi, cacti, flowers, etc.) , it's criminal to make them criminal. I plead the 1st amendment here

The most obvious of these being hemp. I believe It's benefit to cost ratio is far too high (pun not intended).

And in my opinion none of the flora I mentioned, when used in moderation by (mature) adults are any more dangerous than tobacco, caffeine, alcohol or the majority of Extreme/ Motor sports.