Persistent CTD at the exact same spot

[CaptainPatch]

Thank you for the extensive response. I find that I seem a bit more educated after reading any of your posts.

 

To a fair extent, I see a similarity to learning second-, third-languages. To those that were born to a language, it usually seems rather simple to learn their language. But to someone that has NOT already been extensively versed in that language, simple phrases -- to a native -- can bring on migraines. In short, "It's easy -- once you _already_ know how." There's probably a fair amount of, "Well, if _I_ understand it, how hard can it be?" The recurring impression that I get from the modders here is that they really don't understand what they are requiring of non-modders. It is literally on a par with learning an entirely alien language -- that the modders already know. But more importantly, there seem to be an assumption that "simple" things _should_ be self-evident, even to non-modders. Like your reference to the armour mesh: I know what armour is, and I know what a mesh is, but an "armour mesh"? Haven't a clue.

 

I'm starting to think that these thousands of mods should have rating labels, like "M for Modder" requires you to know how to make a mod yourself to be able to smoothly integrate it into your game. (That was a joke, btw.) [Well, mostly a joke.]

 

Wife is _demanding_ I stop for dinner now. (I already used up my quota of "Yes, dears".)

[b2kcommander]

i dont know why you wont test my inis .. i had the exact same problem at riverwood. i use the HD 2k texture + many many mods ... graphic mods lod mods, sound mods, meshes mods, distance overhaul etc... and so on. you wont regret if you use them, configure the graphic part to your needs and let the distance part how it is. as i said, you hardly wont see a difference between a ultra config and this one.

 

its the f***ing skyrim engine thats blowing ! this engine is not set for a modded and especially graphically moddet skyrim. for textures that are more demanding than the vanilla or the original HD texture pack textures. if you dont hit a certain ratio between loading textures in advance and quality in distance and distancemultisplit it will crash. i testet all this for 3 month now and this inis are my result. i dont get a ctd now at riverwood and around anymore indifferent if i travel from whiterum to falkenrath or the other way round.... the area around lakeview manor, all thre were ctds. they happened aperently random and at some exact same spots but it was alwys engine related which couldnt handle the high textures at this level of distance and ... you know waht i mean.

Edited June 22, 2013 by b2kcommander

[CaptainPatch]

i dont know why you wont test my inis

Mainly because you've got a s***load of system-specific things going on, NONE of which I understand. Just look at the _length _ of the .ini that you are suggesting:

 

skyrim ini:

sLanguage=GERMAN

sIntroSequence=DISABLED.BIK

uExterior Cell Buffer=36

iPreloadSizeLimit=34406400

 

[Display]

fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0

fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0

fLightLODMaxStartFade=6500.0

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=4096

bAllowScreenshot=1

fSunShadowUpdateTime=0.0

fSunUpdateThreshold=0.3

fNearDistance=20.0000

 

[Audio]

fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0

fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0

fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0

fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

 

[Actor]

f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.0

f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.0

fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

 

[Grass]

bAllowCreateGrass=1

bAllowLoadGrass=0

iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=6

 

[GeneralWarnings]

SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

 

[Archive]

sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa

sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

 

[Combat]

fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

 

[Papyrus]

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0

bEnableLogging=0

bEnableTrace=0

bLoadDebugInformation=0

 

[Water]

bReflectLODObjects=1

bReflectLODLand=1

bReflectSky=1

bReflectLODTrees=1

 

the prefsini :

[General]

fBrightLightColorB=1.1000

fBrightLightColorG=1.1000

fBrightLightColorR=1.1000

iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1

bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0

 

[imagespace]

bDoDepthOfField=1

iRadialBlurLevel=2

 

[Display]

iBlurDeferredShadowMask=1

fInteriorShadowDistance=2500.0000

fShadowDistance=5500.0000

iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048

iShadowSplitCount=2

bShadowsOnGrass=1

iMaxAnisotropy=8

fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000

fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000

fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=33000.0000

fGamma=1.1200

fDecalLOD2=1500.0000

fDecalLOD1=1000.0000

fSpecularLODStartFade=2000.0000

fShadowLODStartFade=1000.0000

fLightLODStartFade=3500.0000

iTexMipMapMinimum=0

iTexMipMapSkip=0

iWaterMultiSamples=4

iMultiSample=1

iShadowMode=4

bTreesReceiveShadows=1

bDrawLandShadows=1

bFull Screen=1

iSize H=1200

iSize W=1920

fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=2.0000

fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=65000.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=65000.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000

iScreenShotIndex=18

bShadowMaskZPrepass=0

bMainZPrepass=0

iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=25

iMaxDecalsPerFrame=80

bFloatPointRenderTarget=1

sD3DDevice="AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series"

bFXAAEnabled=0

iShadowMapResolution=4096

fShadowBiasScale=0.5000

iShadowMaskQuarter=4

iAdapter=0

bEquippedTorchesCastShadows=1

iPresentInterval=0

iShadowFilter=2

bTransparencyMultisampling=1

bDynamicWindowReflections=1

bDeferredShadows=1

bDrawShadows=1

 

[Grass]

b30GrassVS=0

fGrassStartFadeDistance=12000.0000

fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=12000.0000

fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000

[MAIN]

bGamepadEnable=0

bCrosshairEnabled=1

fHUDOpacity=1.0000

bSaveOnPause=0

bSaveOnTravel=1

bSaveOnWait=0

bSaveOnRest=0

fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=140000.0000

 

[GamePlay]

bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1

bShowQuestMarkers=1

iDifficulty=5

 

[interface]

bDialogueSubtitles=0

bGeneralSubtitles=0

fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000

bShowCompass=1

 

[interface]

bDialogueSubtitles=0

bGeneralSubtitles=0

 

[Controls]

fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000

fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0100

bAlwaysRunByDefault=1

bInvertYValues=0

bGamePadRumble=0

bMouseAcceleration=0

bUseKinect=0

 

[Particles]

iMaxDesired=650

 

[saveGame]

fAutosaveEveryXMins=60.0000

[AudioMenu]

fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000

fVal7=0.8000

uID7=738278163

fVal6=1.0000

uID6=3954

fVal5=1.0000

uID5=410705

fVal4=1.0000

uID4=992187

fVal3=1.0000

uID3=94881

fVal2=0.3000

uID2=466532

fVal1=1.0000

uID1=554685

fVal0=0.9500

uID0=1007612

 

[Clouds]

fCloudLevel2Distance=82144.0000

fCloudLevel1Distance=20768.0000

fCloudLevel0Distance=10384.0000

fCloudNearFadeDistance=10000.0000

 

[TerrainManager]

fTreeLoadDistance=50000.0000

fBlockMaximumDistance=152000.0000

fBlockLevel1Distance=27000.0000

fBlockLevel0Distance=25000.0000

fSplitDistanceMult=1.4500

bShowLODInEditor=0

 

[NavMesh]

fObstacleAlpha=0.5000

fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000

fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500

fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000

fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500

fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000

fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000

fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500

fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000

fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000

fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000

fEdgeThickness=10.0000

fPointSize=2.5000

 

[Trees]

bRenderSkinnedTrees=1

uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=27

bUseMultiThreadedTrees=1

 

[Decals]

uMaxDecals=600

bDecals=1

bSkinnedDecals=1

uMaxSkinDecals=100

uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=60

 

[LOD]

fLODFadeOutMultObjects=13.0000

fLODFadeOutMultItems=11.0000

fLODFadeOutMultActors=12.0000

fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000

 

[Launcher]

bEnableFileSelection=1

bShowAllResolutions=1

uLastAspectRatio=4

[blurShaderHDR]

bDoHighDynamicRange=1

[blurShader]

bUseBlurShader=0

[Water]

iWaterReflectHeight=512

iWaterReflectWidth=512

bUseWaterDisplacements=1

bUseWaterRefractions=1

bUseWaterReflections=1

bUseWaterDepth=1

 

Am I supposed to alter EVERY line of my .ini to match yours? Including the sLanguage=German line. Right there, I'm looking at something that obviously doesn't apply to my rig. Then it's quite obvious that _you_ understand what you're describing, but I haven't a clue what you're talking about. For example,

u can try theese ini settings, 1) except the grafical issues ... like shadow qualitiy or texture quality...2) all other settings especially the lod and distance settings are essential for a CTD free and freeze free gameplay. nevertheless there are some stutters left (5% of the outside locations) but in general 3) its increasing fps by nearly no visual decrease. 4) i use this inis with hd textures 2048K and mods like distance overhaul, 5) high quality lods, distant detail, 6) and decal fix,... and so on.

1)_What_ are the graphical issues, and which lines determine shadow or texture quality?

2) What are "lods"? And where are the distance settings?

3) What does that mean? Increasing frames-per-second by nearly no visual decrease? I'm _guessing_ that if you up your fps, you usually must sacrifice the sharpness (resolution) of graphics, but how do _textures_ relate?

4) What does "HD textures 2048K" _mean_? HD = "High Definition", but what makes a texture 2048K rather than some other number? Is that the amount of dedicated video RAM, just for textures? _I_ don't know.

5) Again, what are "lods"?

6) What's a "decal fix"?

I somehow get the feeling that if you gave me explanations of what all these things are and what they mean, it would generate more questions than were originally being answered.

Really, it's like trying to comprehend a totally foreign language. I'm expecting someone to raise his voice and very s_l_o_w_l_y enunciating, "Do you understand the words coming out of my mouth (fingertips in this case)?"

I'm _seriously_ looking forward to the publication of Modding For Dummies.

[b2kcommander]

ok i give u detailed suggestion

go to your skyrim launcher and set the graphic settings as u like or as u pefer it to play mostly fluid.. (30+ fps)

 

then go to ur ini and change the following lines to this values:

 

skyrim.ini :

 

uExterior Cell Buffer=36
iPreloadSizeLimit=34406400 <---- esseantial

 

[Actor]
f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.0
f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.0
fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000 <-- thats for hitting far away people with a bow

 

skyrim prefs.ini :

 

[General]
fBrightLightColorB=1.1000 <---
fBrightLightColorG=1.1000 <--- that 3 are for a more colorful picture
fBrightLightColorR=1.1000 <---
iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0

 

[Display]
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=1 <--- thats for having clean edges when things or people are lightened by the sun (no blurry shiny edge)

 

fShadowDistance=5500.0000 <--- thats a compromise between blocky shadow edges and the distance at which shadows appear (you may lower if u like)
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048

 

fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=33000.0000 <--- important value, leave it at this value (only lowering it if necessary)

 

fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=2.0000
fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=65000.0000 <---u may leave them as they are because far away details wont be shown if they were lowered, but u can lower them
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=65000.0000 <---
fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000

 

fShadowBiasScale=0.5000 <--- for me 0,5 avoids some sripping shadows at some landscape textures

 

[Grass]

GrassStartFadeDistance=12000.0000 <---- when ur cpu and graphic is good enough grass will shown more far away lower it or use default setting when it comes to stutters
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=12000.0000 <---

 

[Main]

fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=140000.0000 <--- reduces slightly the density of clouds at mountains (lower it for fps gains,but dont increase it)

 

[Particles]
iMaxDesired=650 <-- use this value or lower (no noticable visual difference to max available value)

 

[Clouds]
fCloudLevel2Distance=82144.0000
fCloudLevel1Distance=20768.0000
fCloudLevel0Distance=10384.0000
fCloudNearFadeDistance=10000.0000 <--- leave them all 4 at this value or lower

 

[TerrainManager] <----- the most essential part (adjusting this values cancause ctds again) perhaps fblockmaximumdistance and fblocklevel0distance can be lowered but its related to noticeable graphic decline) dont increase fsplitdistancemulti
fTreeLoadDistance=50000.0000
fBlockMaximumDistance=152000.0000
fBlockLevel1Distance=27000.0000
fBlockLevel0Distance=25000.0000
fSplitDistanceMult=1.4500

bShowLODInEditor=0

 

[Trees]
bRenderSkinnedTrees=1 <--- if ur graphics card is good enough set it to 1
uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=27 <--- lower it or leave launcher setted defauts if u like

[Decals] <--- use this settings for maxed settings (lower it if you have bad fps)
uMaxDecals=600
bDecals=1
bSkinnedDecals=1
uMaxSkinDecals=100
uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=60

 

[LOD] <---- dont increase them just decrease to achieve more fps (it shows far away details at a enjoyable distance)
fLODFadeOutMultObjects=13.0000
fLODFadeOutMultItems=11.0000
fLODFadeOutMultActors=12.0000
fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000

 

therewith you should be able to configure your own inis without having ctds :wink:

have fun

Edited June 22, 2013 by b2kcommander

[ripple]

@b2kcommander

Those 'tweaks' do not improve game stability in any way. Please stop spamming other people's support thread with unrelated posts.

 

@CaptainPatch

Needless to say, unless you have a below requirement system spec (and you don't) and need to make performance tweaks just to sustain playable framerates, don't edit the default game ini settings except to enable non-performance related settings like papyrus logging or increasing autosave count, especially not when you are troubleshooting the load order to try and stabilize the game.

Edited June 22, 2013 by ripple

[b2kcommander]

not ? my game is stable now by these settings ... strange, isnt it ?

Edited June 22, 2013 by b2kcommander

[CaptainPatch]

@b2kcommander -- looking at the numbers you've displayed: You _do_ realize that large numbers have commas every THREE digits, right? Example

100

1,000

10,000

100,000

1,000,000

10,000,000

 

Looking at the numbers you posted -- "5500,0000", "2,0000", etc. -- makes me think that if I entered your numbers _exactly_, (like if I did a copy-and-paste) it would seriously foul things up, usually by a factor of 10 or more. Or worse, having the comma in the wrong place may just lock things up and stop the initialization. Those are risks I'm not willing to take unless I am confident that the adviser KNOWS what he is advising. That's something I can't feel confident about when I see what appear to be glaring errors like "2,0000" and have to wonder, "Did he mean '2,000' or '20,000'?"

 

I'm pleased that your .ini works so well for you, but I can't imagine that the same config works for EVERY PC. And given that you never even inquired what my system specs are, how could you be certain that your .ini works perfectly for a system that you know nothing about?

[b2kcommander]

in the inis its used to be a . not a , give the wohle a try or let it be. its on you. i have a fx6300 @ 4,8ghz, 8 gb ram, 7870 xt @1200,1600 if ur rig is at least a Q9900 with some 1gb hd 5000 or gtx 400 series ist sholud be fine.

 

5500.000 are the same as 5500 without .000 :wink:

 

backup ur old inis if u want to be on the sure side

Edited June 22, 2013 by b2kcommander

[CaptainPatch]

Just curious about the format: Why would it be necessary to show several zeroes after the decimal point? After all, as you say, 5500.000 is the same as 5500... which pretty much makes the decimal point and those extra zeroes entirely superfluous. I would imagine that unless there is some _need_ to put something in, any competent programmer would leave the superfluous stuff out, just as a matter of course.

 

OT -- Finally had enough time to start trying to Plug 'n' Play different mods to see which causes the CTD. I started by turning off AP Skyrim (Animated Prostitution) to hopefully stop the aaSex notations. [As far as I know, AP Skyrim is my only mod that addresses sexuality, as opposed to just gender differences.) I also turned off Essential Followers and Specialized Followers to hopefully stop the Follwer_Alias warnings. The new Papyrus log now ends with

 

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "aaSexPlayerMastyOnBedScript", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type aaSexPlayerMastyOnBedScript referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "TIF__01035FB7", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type TIF__01035FB7 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "SF_cScenes_01018DCB", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type SF_cScenes_01018DCB referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "aaSexAPConfigMenu", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type aaSexAPConfigMenu referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "QF_aaSexWhoreHouseWhiterunA_0102AAE9", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type QF_aaSexWhoreHouseWhiterunA_0102AAE9 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "aaSexNPCTryingToRapePlayerScript", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type aaSexNPCTryingToRapePlayerScript referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "qf_aasexscene01_01005ea5", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type qf_aasexscene01_01005ea5 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "SF_aaSexScene01Scene01_01005EA6", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type SF_aaSexScene01Scene01_01005EA6 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "SF_aaSexScene02Sex_01008FA1", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type SF_aaSexScene02Sex_01008FA1 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "SF_aaSexWhoreHouseCenterGoHo_0102AAF6", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type SF_aaSexWhoreHouseCenterGoHo_0102AAF6 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "aasexfavordialougescript", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type aasexfavordialougescript referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "aaSexNPCTryingToRapePlayerComp", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type aaSexNPCTryingToRapePlayerComp referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "SF_aaSexScene07PlayerOnTheBe_01026ED7", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type SF_aaSexScene07PlayerOnTheBe_01026ED7 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "QF_aaSexScene05_010141F3", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type QF_aaSexScene05_010141F3 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "SF_aaSexScene08PlayerOnTheBl_01026EF2", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type SF_aaSexScene08PlayerOnTheBl_01026EF2 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "SF_aaSexSceneChairSceane_0100D0C1", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type SF_aaSexSceneChairSceane_0100D0C1 referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "qf_aasexdate_01016d1a", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type qf_aasexdate_01016d1a referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "TIF__0101729D", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type TIF__0101729D referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "TIF__0101729E", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type TIF__0101729E referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] Cannot open store for class "transformationsafetyscript", missing file?

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Unable to get type transformationsafetyscript referenced by the save game. Objects of this type will not be loaded.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type aaSexNPCTryingToRapePlayerComp in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type APFactionControlScript in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type fosestripscript in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type QF_aaSex_01000D62 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type aasexfavordialougescript in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type aasextokentoidlescript in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type aasexscript in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type QF_aaSexGiveUpInFightQuest_0102A575 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type aaSexDateNPCPlayerLead in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type SF_aaSexDateNPCFollowPlayer_01016D1B in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type qf_aasexdate_01016d1a in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type PF_aaSexMakeNPCtandUp_010198EE in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type aaSexPlayerMastyOnBedScript in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type aaSexDateNPCScript in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type SF_aaSexScene07PlayerOnTheBe_01026ED7 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type QF_aaSexScene07_01026ED6 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type SF_aaSexDatePlayerLeadPlayer_01028A5B in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type TIF__01001832 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type SF_aaSexScene08PlayerOnTheBl_01026EF2 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type QF_aaSexScene08_01026EF0 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type QF_aaSexSceneChair_010079F1 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type QF_aaSexBrawlQuest_01016D2F in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type PRKF_aaSexBedEnteryPerk_010253B6 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type qf_aasexscene04_01013c84 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type aaSexMasty in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type SF_aaSexScene04Scene01_01013C85 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type transformationsafetyscript in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type SF_aaSexScenePlayerSleepingS_010253BB in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type QF_aaSexScene06_010253BA in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type SF_aaSexBrawlQuestFight_01016D30 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type aaSexPlayerOnBedScriptRoundTwo in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type QF_aaSexWhoreHouseCenter_0102AAE4 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type TIF__0101729E in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type TIF__0101729D in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type aaSexPlayeronTheBlockOnTheBedScript in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type SF_aaSexSceneChairSceane_0100D0C1 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type aaSexAPConfigMenu in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type QF_aaSexScene05_010141F3 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type transformationsafetyscript in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type SF_aaSexScene02Sex_01008FA1 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type SF_aaSexScene01Scene01_01005EA6 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type qf_aasexscene01_01005ea5 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type SF_aaSexScene03CompanionAuto_0100A580 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type TIF__0100A57C in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type QF_aaSexSurenderQuest_01018DC9 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type SF_cScenes_01018DCB in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type TIF__0102AAE7 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type aaSexNPCTryingToRapePlayerScript in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type SF_aaSexWhoreHouseWhiterunAW_0102AAEA in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type QF_aaSexWhoreHouseWhiterunA_0102AAE9 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type aaSexPlayerDefendRapeScript in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type qf_aasexscene03_0100a57f in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type QF_aaSexDatePlayerLead_01028A5A in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type QF_aaSexTrackMyBitchs_0102AAFD in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type aaSexWhoreWhiterunProffitScript in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type TIF__01035FB7 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type TIF__01035FB5 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type SF_aaSexWhoreHouseCenterGoHo_0102AAF6 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type QF_aaSexBrawlNPCQuest_010182F1 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type qf_aasexscene02_01008f9f in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type SF_aaSexBrawlNPCQuestSceen_010182F3 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:26PM] warning: Could not find type QF_aaSexWhoreHouseRepeat_0102AAF0 in the type table in save

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:27PM] VM is thawing...

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:28PM] Error: Mismatched types assigning to variable named "::temp2"

stack:

[uHFPRetroactiveFixes111 (1500EF05)].UHFPRetroactive111Script.Process() - "UHFPRetroactive111Script.psc" Line 20

[alias Player on quest UHFPVersionTracking (15009E41)].UHFP_VersionTrackingPlayerAliasScript.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "UHFP_VersionTrackingPlayerAliasScript.psc" Line 19

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:28PM] UHFP 1.1.1 Retroactive Updates Complete

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:28PM] Error: Method GetFormID not found on aaSexAPConfigMenu. Aborting call and returning None

stack:

[sKI_ConfigManagerInstance (31000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.Cleanup() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 84

[sKI_ConfigManagerInstance (31000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnGameReload() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 75

[alias PlayerRef on quest SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (31000802)].SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias.psc" Line 6

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:28PM] warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp3"

stack:

[sKI_ConfigManagerInstance (31000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.Cleanup() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 84

[sKI_ConfigManagerInstance (31000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnGameReload() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 75

[alias PlayerRef on quest SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (31000802)].SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias.OnPlayerLoadGame() - "SKI_PlayerLoadGameAlias.psc" Line 6

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:28PM] InitWidgetLoader()

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:28PM] ========== Convenient Horses: Scanning for supported plugins...

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:28PM] ========== ERRORS RELATED TO MISSING FILES SHOULD BE IGNORED!

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:28PM] Error: File "Convenient Horse Herding.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.

stack:

<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?

[CH (2F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 84

[CH (2F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 111

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:28PM] Error: File "HothFollower.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.

stack:

<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?

[CH (2F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 86

[CH (2F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 111

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:28PM] Error: File "CompanionValfar.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.

stack:

<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?

[CH (2F020329)].chquestscript.GameLoaded() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 87

[CH (2F020329)].chquestscript.OnUpdate() - "CHQuestScript.psc" Line 111

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:28PM] ========== Convenient Horses: Scan complete.

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:29PM] ~~~~~ Footprints: Running Maintenance ~~~~~

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:29PM] ~~~~~ Footprints VC: SKSE Check Running ~~~~~

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:29PM] ~~~~~ Footprints VC: Checking if update is required. (Current Version: 0.990000) ~~~~~

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:29PM] ~~~~~ Footprints VC: Versions match. No Update Required! ~~~~~

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:29PM] ~~~~~ Footprints: Checking for DLC. Any error printed next is harmless. ~~~~~

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:29PM] ~~~~~ Footprints: Done checking for DLC ~~~~~

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:29PM] ~~~~~ Footprints: Switching to SKSE Footprints, SKSE Installed ~~~~~

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:32PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:37PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:42PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:47PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2

[06/22/2013 - 03:43:52PM] MC1: Polling Script Running V2

Understandably, there were bunches of calls for files no longer active. And also not surprisingly (given that CTD is just 24 seconds from Load point), the game still CTDs. But I'm wondering why Papyrus is still obsessing about things like "Cannot open store for class "aaSexPlayerMastyOnBedScript"," Am I going to have to fully Uninstall some of these mods?

Edited June 22, 2013 by CaptainPatch

[ripple]

Damn it Patch, stop feeding the troll... :dry:

 

If enabling SKSE's ClR function and then playing for a few hours has not helped to clean your save game for those orphan script data, then you would need to start a new game.

 

The other thing I forgot to mention is that don't obsess about the Papyrus log (it will drive you nuts). Most of the messages are harmless debug messages. For example, those 'errors' immediately following 'Convenient Horses' in the log is just a CH script scanning you game to see if you have CH supported mods installed. This is one of the rare times where the Papyrus log has yielded something useful in tracking down the possible culprit for persistent CTDs (orphan script data from the 'sex mod' you uninstalled).

Edited June 23, 2013 by ripple