skyrimfan147 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 (edited) Hi, I´m playing all over again my modded skyrim and I found a ridiculous bug I can´t compreend on my on. Basically when i talk the first time with Jarl Balgruuf the Greater for the first mission, in the part when he says to send troops for Riverrun immedialty the game always gets CTD, and I don´t know the reason. I´ve played the game before with my current list of mods and no problem was found back then. I have introduced some new mods, like sounds of skyrim and texture and armors mods, but I don´t think the problem has anything to do with that. I tried to disable sounds of skyrim and the problem remains. I also tried to make a save after sleeping during the night, loaded that save and was to the dragonsreach and the problem appeared again. You guys have any idea what kind of problem is this?! Also looked for game´s integrity thought steam and the only files re-downloaded were the master files that were cleaned up for TES-tool, and even using that files raw or cleaned the problem remains! Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Dawnguard.esm ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}HearthFires.esm ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveApachiiHair.esm ActiveApachiiHairFemales.esm ActiveAzarHair.esm ActiveJSwords.esm ActiveWarning: Original file was released before the Creation Kit (07 Feb. 2012). A fixed and cleaned version can be obtained here.LevelersTower.esm ActiveSanctum of the Fallen.esm ActiveSPIKE.esm ActiveUndergroundBathhouse.esm ActiveHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espUnofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}aelafacelift.esp ActiveBetter Dynamic Snow.esp ActiveRainbows.esp Activefantasy music overhaul.esp Activefantasy music overhaul - no vanilla music.espfantasy music overhaul - unique town music.esp ActiveStaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}AK- Buyable Paintings and Pictures.esp ActiveCalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.espCraftable and Placeable Havok-enabled Bedrolls .esp ActiveExpandedJewelryCrafting.esp ActiveNS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp ActiveUnlimitedBookshelves.esp ActiveBook Covers Skyrim.esp ActiveBook Covers Dawnguard.esp ActiveBook Covers Hearthfire.esp ActiveSaderHorses.esp ActiveUnique BOOZE Bottles.esp ActiveConvenient Horses.esp ActiveAuto Unequip Ammo.esp ActiveChesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp ActiveDragon Soul Relinquishment.esp ActiveJSwords_Load_Screens.esp ActiveRaceMenu.esp ActiveRaceMenuPlugin.esp ActiveNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.WetandCold.esp ActiveWetandCold - Ashes.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp ActiveAlynShirArmor.esp ActiveArmorOfIntrigue.esp Activeaassassinscraftables.esp ActiveBlackSacramentArmor.esp ActiveBloodWitchArmor.esp ActiveCloaks.esp ActiveCloaks - Dawnguard.esp ActiveCrossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp ActiveDaedric Extra Armor.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)DaggerCraft.esp Activedbarrows.esp Activedbbownogloss.esp Activedbdagger.esp Activedbsword.esp ActiveDemonHunterArmor.esp ActiveNote: Be sure you have the correct version for the body type installed: DIMONIZED UNP female body or CBBE female body.DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp ActiveDovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)Dragonbone Weapons.esp Activedragonpriestmasks.esp ActiveDread Huntress Armor.esp ActiveDread Knight Weapon Set.esp ActiveDreamBurrowsRegalAssassin.esp Activeelegantvampirearmor.esp ActiveElewin Jewelry.esp ActiveEternalShineArmorAndWeapons.esp ActiveFionaOutfit.esp ActiveGhosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp ActiveGuild Duelist Armor.esp ActiveHentaisJamellaArmor.esp ActiveHentaisTemplePlateArmor.esp Activehothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}isilNarsil.esp ActiveJSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp ActiveLayerBikini.esp Activelisternersarmorset.esp ActiveLostLongSwords.esp ActiveLOTR Shield Pack.esp ActiveLubaSkyWings.esp ActiveLustmordVampireArmor.esp ActiveMystic.esp ActiveNeoInpouArmour.esp ActiveNicoroshi Creations.esp ActiveNightsWatchArmorLight.esp ActivePrvtI_HeavyArmory.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}PrvtI_HeavyArmory_DG_Addon.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}Pushup-Bikini.esp ActiveRedguardKnight.esp ActiveSchwertleite Set.esp ActiveScoutArmor.esp ActiveSeraphineHuntedArmor.esp ActiveNote: Be sure you have the correct body mod for the esp. DIMONIZED UNP or CBBE.SilverArmor.esp ActiveSilverDragonArmor.esp ActiveskyforgedShields.esp ActiveSovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp ActiveWarning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. (Compatibility Patch)SteelMaiden.esp ActiveTeraArmors-CBBEByNausicaa.esp ActiveRequires: CBBE female body.Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp ActiveTribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp ActiveTrissArmorRetextured.esp ActiveUnique Uniques.esp ActiveVagabondArmor.esp Activeviciousdawnbreaker.esp Activewarchiefarmor.esp ActiveWarchiefsMight.esp Activezz_GD_DB_RAHoods.esp ActiveDeadlyDragons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp ActiveAlchemistsHiddenValley.esp ActiveAmazing Riverwood Starter Home.esp Activebuildablehouse.esp ActiveDragon Falls Manor.esp ActiveHallsOfDovahndor.esp Activehobbithouse.esp ActiveLakesideHideaway.esp ActiveLimbwoodManor.esp ActiveNorthern Bathhouses.esp ActiveWarning: This file contains 2 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.RayeksEnd.esp ActiveReaper's The Dark Tower.esp ActiveRiversideLodge.esp ActiveSweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp ActiveRequires: CBBESyerscote.esp Activeub_npc_rework.esp Activeub_tapestry.esp ActiveVjarkell Castle.esp ActiveWarning: This file contains 1 deleted NavMesh record that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically and it may cause problems with your game. NavMesh deletions should be reported to the mod author. A guide to repairing NavMesh deletions with TES5Edit is located here.Wyrmstooth.esp ActiveMasters of Death.esp ActiveAcquisitive Soul Gems.esp ActiveAchieveThat.esp Activearmored-horses.esp ActiveBabette.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives.esp ActiveWarning: This file is out of date. Please obtain the new version here.FasterHorses_Sprint_x1_5.esp ActiveGuard Dialogue Overhaul.esp ActiveHide_All_Helms_and_Hoods.esp ActiveImmersive Weapons.esp ActiveBash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}Killable Children.esp ActiveKillable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp ActiveMore Salt Please.esp ActiveMore Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp ActivedD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActivedD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp ActiveUnreadBooksGlow.esp ActiveaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Activebathhouse.esp ActiveSoS - The Dungeons.esp ActiveNote: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.SoS - The Wilds.esp ActiveNote: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.SoS - Civilization.esp ActiveNote: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp ActiveRealistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp ActiveSaturationBoost.esp ActiveSoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp ActiveSoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp ActiveSoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp ActiveSoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities.esp ActiveBetter Vampires.esp ActiveDeadlySpellImpacts.esp ActiveABT - Loot Arrows +50%.espABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp ActiveABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp ActiveABT - Merchants Arrows +50%.espABT - Increased Bolts Damage (Vanilla) +50%.esp ActiveABT - Increased Progressive Damage (with Nord Hero Arrow) +50%.esp ActiveABT - Recover +50% Arrows and Bolts.esp Active100XCarryWeight.esp ActivedD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp ActiveBrows.esp ActiveTheEyesOfBeauty.esp ActiveTemptressVixen.esp ActiveEMCompViljaSkyrim.esp ActiveEMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp ActiveUFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp ActiveNote: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on mod page.UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp ActiveUFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp ActiveUFO - AllwaysDrawWeapons.esp ActiveMy Home Is Your Home.esp ActiveAlana.esp ActiveAmanda.esp ActiveJessicaAlba.esp ActiveLyla.esp ActiveMichelle.esp ActiveMisha.esp ActiveSRIlta.esp ActiveSRIsaka.esp ActiveSRKirsikka.esp ActiveSRMaisa.esp ActiveSRSarasta.esp ActiveWOME_Eowyn.esp ActiveWOME_Galadriel.esp ActiveWOME_Arwen.esp ActiveCompanion_Ari.esp ActiveCompanion_Ria.esp ActiveFollower Trap Safety.esp ActiveSGFChastity.esp ActiveSGFEris.esp ActiveSGFKodelia.esp ActiveSGFLucretia.esp ActiveSGFSabeena.esp ActiveSpousetocustomhome.esp ActivePlayerHomeMapMarkers.esp ActiveBashed Patch, 0.esp Active Edited June 27, 2013 by skyrimfan147 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArappaPa Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Have the exact same problem. CTD when speaking to jarl of whiterun first time. Have about 100 mods installed. I can't figure out witch mod is the issue here. Tryed Boss tool and TES tool, everything seems fine (althought theese tools are new to me). Nothing seems to work. Uninstalled mod: better housearls and some and some weaponmods that TES tool didn't like. I'm playing the game all over again, now as the custom race Temptress. TES tool doesn't like temptress armour, so I don't use it. I would prefer not to reinstall Skyrim and/or all theese mods. Someone please help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucinator Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 me too at that exact spot...hmm i'm going to post my mod list; hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layia28 Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 @skyrimfan147: After looking at your load order what jumps out at me is that next to a number of your mods there are warning from BOSS such as to obtain compatibility patches, to update to the latest version, to make sure you have the correct body replacing mod installed for certain armors, and warnings about navmesh's missing. Example: Better Quest Objectives.esp Active Warning: This file is out of date. Please obtain the new version. The first thing I would do is go through, read all of those warnings, and do whatever BOSS suggests. That alone could fix your problem. Also, the Unofficial Patches should be above the High Res Texture packs in your load order, not below. Sounds of Skyrim was notorious for crashes in the past and there were many warnings against using it. It seems to have been uploaded again and the problem fixed, but there that could still be the culprit. If Sounds of Skyrim was the culprit and you 'tried to disable it' (I'm not sure what you mean by tried to disable it) there is a chance that a script or something else from that mod is still lingering behind and the only way to completely uninstall it is to start a new game. Finally, Enhanced Blood textures is one of the best, if not the best, blood texture replacer, but it has been known to cause crashes as well. There is no harm in uninstalling or disabling it and seeing if that stops your crashes. Hope that helps. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucinator Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) here are the mods both me and the OP both have...it has to be one of those also it is not the unofficial patches since I downloaded them in a attempt to fix this and there was no change and I fixed their load order from my first post to no effect. However I believe it is a load order issue since my problems started when I downloaded some mods that aren't on the combined list below (ubp, ubpb, ubp armor, Black Flame Red Dragonscale, Blue white dragon-1725-1 (its a scale armor texture), and Runed Blood Red Dragonbone Armor-3123-1-0 (also just a texture, no esp)) when these caused problems with my already loaded character I reinstalled the game and I bet the load order is slightly different. ApachiiHair.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espExpandedJewelryCrafting.espDragon Soul Relinquishment.espJSwords_Load_Screens.espSkyUI.espCloaks.espCloaks - Dawnguard.esphothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espJSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.espLostLongSwords.espUnique Uniques.espDeadlyDragons.espDragon Falls Manor.espRiversideLodge.espAchieveThat.espImmersive Weapons.espBetter Vampires.espBashed Patch, 0.esp Edited July 19, 2013 by Lucinator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucinator Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 here is the papyrus log from right after the CTD I cant really understand it so if anyone can interpret this that would be useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucinator Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I tried the tes5edit on all the main game files with no result...any other ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
80753 Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 (edited) Try to competently remove the HighResTexturePacks and download this instead http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/9080/?. Also try a new game or a new installation of skyrim ( remember to remove the My documents Skyrim folder. Edited July 18, 2013 by 80753 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucinator Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 how do you remove the high res texture packs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucinator Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 assuming that I was able to remove the texture packets correctly, then that fix did not work. As to the rest of the suggestions, I have reinstalled the game 5 or six times with different changes to what I load and the order in terms of mods and nothing has worked yet. i still believe that the issue is one of load order since I had a stable build until I made the mistake of adding several texture mods and a dragon bone/scale add-on mod. That screwed up my existing character which prompted me to reinstall the game. At that point this issue came up and after several more reinstalls I cant fix it. The only new things are those texture mods which are listed in a previous post and the unofficial patches (note I had the problem before a tried adding them as a solution). I feel that the only way I can get any resolution to this issue will be if someone can look at the papyrus report and tell me what files caused the crash or what files were being accessed since that would help narrow down the culprate mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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