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Oblivion Crash on New Game

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Oblivion does the following when I try to start a new game on it:

 

1: Main menu loads up fine after opening movies

2: I click new game

3: I create my character (Using an immediate chargen mod from NGCD) after the opening video.

 

4: As soon as the prison intro would normally begin to load, or the scripts that an alternate beginning mod like Alternate Beginnings would work it's magic in keeping things preserved (I'm using Alternate Beginnings with Kvatch Intact), the game instantly crashes.

 

 

After changing a few graphics card perams and causing 3dsoundback to recognize oblivion, it doesn't even get to the chargen phase. It either crashes before the menu or crashes after selecting new game.

 

With some alternate beginning mods, I could get it to work until I started the main quest, then it would instantly crash.

 

Mod list (Post BOSS sort, note that I tried with and without bash patches):

 

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  • These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

    • Oblivion.esm Active
    • Cobl Main.esm Version 1.72 Active
      • Note: Do not use Tamrielic Ingredients and COBL at the same time.
    • Kvatch Rebuilt.esm Version 2.x Active
    • Fundament.esm Version 2 Active
    • HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp Active
      • Note: Not recommended for use as there is no measureable performance improvement.
    • Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Version 3.4.3 Active
      • Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/28537
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.CombatStyle, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood, Delev, Factions, Invent, NPC.Class, Names, Relations, Relev, Scripts, Stats}} and remove [C.Water] tag(s) (only exist in older version).
    • UOPS Additional Changes.esp Version 3.3.7 Active
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev, Stats}}
    • UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Version 1.0.0 Active
      • Note: Recommend removing if using Wrye Bash. A tweak for this exists in "Tweak Settings".
    • Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp Active
    • DLCShiveringIsles.esp Active
    • Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Version 1.5.2 Active
      • Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or OMOBS if using FCOM/OOO. Both versions can be found here: http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/28537
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Actors.DeathItem, Actors.Stats, C.Climate, C.Light, C.Name, C.Owner, Delev, Factions, Invent, Names, Relev, Scripts, Stats, Relations}}
    • USIPS Additional Changes.esp Version 1.4.4 Active
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
    • SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp Version 1.30 Active
      • Incompatible with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.
      • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
    • Realistic Water.esp Active
    • Idle Dialogue.esp Version 1.3 Active
    • FOV Modifier.esp Version 2.0 Active
    • M.O.E. - Undermined Leveled Gameplay - Creature Edition.esp Version 1 Active
      • Note: Not overhaul mod compatible (Fran's, OOO, MMM, FCOM).
    • M.O.E. - Undermined Leveled Gameplay - Item Edition.esp Version 1 Active
      • Note: Not overhaul mod compatible (Fran's, OOO, MMM, FCOM).
    • RAEVWD Cities.esp Version 1.9 Active
      • Incompatible with: Better Cities, Open Cities Classic, Open Cities Reborn.
    • RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp Version 1.7 Active
    • RAEVWD Imperial City.esp Version 1.9 Active
      • Incompatible with: Better Cities' VWD plugin.
    • Immersive Combat Music.esp Version 1.00 Active
    • Spell Delete.esp Version 4.0 Active
    • DLCHorseArmor.esp Active
    • DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.8 Active
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Owner}}
    • SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp Version 1.11 Active
      • Incompatible with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.
      • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
    • DLCOrrery.esp Active
    • DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.5 Active
    • SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp Version 1.11 Active
      • Incompatible with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.
      • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
    • DLCVileLair.esp Active
    • DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.9 Active
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Graphics}}
    • SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp Version 1.21 Active
      • Incompatible with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.
      • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
    • DLCMehrunesRazor.esp Active
    • DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.6 Active
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Invent, Relev}}
    • SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp Version 1.30 Active
      • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
    • DLCSpellTomes.esp Active
    • DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.1 Active
      • Incompatible with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.
    • MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp Version 5 Active
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Body-M, Body-Size-M}}
    • RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp Active
    • DLCThievesDen.esp Active
    • DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.11 Active
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIData, Actors.Stats, C.Light, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Relev}}
    • DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Version 1.0.11 Active
      • Note: Only for new game. Don't use for existing game.
    • SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp Version 1.30 Active
      • Incompatible with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.
      • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
    • Cobl Glue.esp Version 1.72 Active
    • Cobl Si.esp Version 1.63 Active
      • Requires: Shivering Isles expansion.
    • Cobl Tweaks.esp Version 1.44 Active
    • Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Version 2.1.2 Active
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Invent}}
    • 24hourArena.esp Active
    • DLCFrostcrag.esp Active
    • DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.8 Active
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, C.Name, C.Owner, Creatures.Blood}} and remove [C.Climate, C.Light] tags
    • SM Plugin Refurbish - Frostcrag.esp Version 1.2 Active
      • Incompatible with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.
      • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
    • Knights.esp Active
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations}}
    • Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.1.3 Active
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Actors.ACBS, Actors.AIPackages, Factions, Relations}}
    • SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp Version 1.06 Active
      • Incompatible with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'.
      • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
    • Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp Version 3.08 Active
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: C.Owner, Names, Invent, Factions, Actors.Stats, NPC.Class, Actors.AIData, Actors.AIPackages, Graphics}}
      • Note: MAY cause CTDs. Cause uncertain despite extensive debugging. Disable if experiencing a persistant crash.
      • Contains dirty edits: 34 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES4Edit cleaning: http://cs.elderscrolls.com/index.php?title=TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide
    • Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp Version 1.2.5 Active
    • DS Less Predictable Respawn.esp Version 1.1 Active
    • KT_KhajEyeToggleNoEff.esp Active
    • Class Advantages.esp Version 1.01 Active
    • P1DkeyChain.esp Version 5.00 Active
    • Sleep to Save.esp Active
      • Requires: OBSE 11+.
    • kuerteeAlternativesToDeathAndReload.esp Active
    • Alternative Beginnings.esp Version 1.4.1 Active
    • Alternative Beginnings - Kvatch Intact.esp Version 1.4 Active
    • Galerion Unarmored Acrobatics- Uncapped.esp Active
    • Magic Effects OBSE Tweaks.esp Version 4.0 Active
    • Natural Rings Limit.esp Version 1.1 Active
    • SupremeMagicka.esp Version 0.90b Active
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Names, Graphics}}
      • Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
    • SM_ShiveringIsles.esp Version 0.90 Active
    • SM_DLCSpellTome.esp Version 0.90 Active
    • SM_COBL.esp Version 0.90 Active
    • SM_EnchantStaff.esp Version 0.90 Active
    • SM_VanillaSpells.esp Version 0.90 Active
    • SM_NoSpellLights.esp Version 0.90 Active
    • SM_Scrolls.esp Version 0.90 Active
    • SM_SigilStone.esp Version 0.90 Active
    • Vector.esp Version 0.3 Active
    • Fizzle.esp Version 3.0 Active
    • StolenItemOwnership.esp Active
    • SM Combat Hide.esp Version 1.2 Active
    • SM Bounty.esp Version 1.22c Active
    • CoblDeathFix.esp Version 1.20 Active
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Scripts}}
    • Bundlement.esp Version 2 Active
      • Incompatible with: Progress*.esp
    • nGCD.esp Version 3.4 Active
    • nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp Active
    • nGCD Skeleton Key.esp Active
    • JCN_AV Uncap.esp Version 1.01 Active
    • Immediate Character Generation.esp Active
    • The Versatile Adventurer.esp Version 1.1 Active
      • Requires: OBSE.
    • M.O.E. - Unlocked Hairstyles.esp Version 1 Active
    • TRAP.esp Version 1.1 Active
      • Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: R.Attributes-F, R.Attributes-M, R.ChangeSpells, R.Description, R.Relations, R.Skills}}
    • Disable Tutorial Text.esp Active
    • Really Immersive Messages.esp Active
    • Automatic Timescale.esp Version 1.1.1 Active
    • 1310-Chamelion-NoRefraction-TESSource.esp Active
    • Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp Version 01 Active
    • Bashed Patch, 0.esp Version 6/29/2013 12:04:38 AM

 

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The following plugins were not found in the masterlist, and must be positioned manually, using your favourite mod manager or by using BOSS's user rules functionality. You can submit unrecognised plugins for addition to the masterlist directly from this log by clicking on a plugin and supplying a link and/or description of its contents in the panel that is displayed.

  • SDR.esm Version 7.0.1 Active
  • EH_ReverseVampire1.2.esp Version 1.2 Active
  • SDR_Detect Life Shader Patch [Oblivion].esp Version 5.0.0 Active
  • Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp Version 1.0 Active
  • SDR_Perks And Patches [Oblivion].esp Version 7.0.0 Active
  • LFGSpellCrafting.esp Active

 

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  • OBSE Version: 0.0.20.6
  • AddActorValues.dll
  • AddActorValues_CS.dll
  • AVUncapper.dll
  • AVUncapper_CS.dll
  • ConScribe.dll Version: 10.0.6.509
  • DisableVampRace.dll
  • FastExit2.dll
  • FractionalMagicDamage.dll
  • MenuQue.dll
  • OBGEv2.dll Version: 2.0.0.0
  • OBME.dll
  • OBME_CS.dll
  • obse_jail_fix.dll
  • SDR_obse.dll Version: 1.0.17.0
  • SoundCommands.dll
  • sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll Version: 4.1.0.0
  • weOCPS.dll

 

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Here are a couple of problems:

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Version 1.0.0 Active

  • Note: Recommend removing if using Wrye Bash. A tweak for this exists in "Tweak Settings".

 

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp Version 3.08 Active

Note: MAY cause CTDs. Cause uncertain despite extensive debugging. Disable if experiencing a persistant crash.

 

Reading each and every line of the BOSS report can at times direct you to a solution.

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  On 6/30/2013 at 3:26 AM, M48A5 said:

Here are a couple of problems:

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Version 1.0.0 Active

  • Note: Recommend removing if using Wrye Bash. A tweak for this exists in "Tweak Settings".

 

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp Version 3.08 Active

Note: MAY cause CTDs. Cause uncertain despite extensive debugging. Disable if experiencing a persistant crash.

 

Reading each and every line of the BOSS report can at times direct you to a solution.

Tried your tips. Still crashing on chargen. Additionally, I also tried making the game large address aware, excluding it from the codec pack on my computer's directshow usage, etc. as well as numerous graphics card level configs. It isn't helping. something like this generally happens when I install oblivion, reinstalling generally doesn't work when I do that.

 

Just tried using compatibility mode (xp sp2). no change.

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Okay, now for the other parts.

 

I've had a similar issue with Fallout New Vegas since I owned the game on PC. Regardless of mods installed/not installed this issue would happen right after doc mitchells began speaking, and alternate start mods wouldn't work.

Sound: Realtek HD Audio. SRS On. set to 16 bit 41000 hz.

 

Graphics: Nvidea Optimus w/ it set to use the discrete 310M card. The intel card is used in Hybrid mode for oblivion according to NvideaInspector, meaning that both cards are used simultainiously.

 

Processor: Intel Core i5 w/ Hyperboost, 4 CPUs

 

Ram: 8192 MBs

 

DX Versions: Latest 9 (just updated yesterday with the web version), and DX 11

 

++Edit:

 

changing bFixFaceNormals=1 to bFixFaceNormals=0 seems to fix the issue perfectly.

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