Help to change Skyrim Audio to English.

[prod80]

Mountains dont really help infrastructure... But you must have a whole better environment than where I'm living... Mountains, nature and everything. Fresh air.

Isnt there anything stable (and "flat fee" (or whatever it's called in Spain - unlimited download)) available via the 3G/4G network? Your bitterness is fine, I dont mind. People get frustrated and need to let off steam, no better place than a forum.

 

You can still play modded, you just ened to be smart about it and have proper backup's. You can download the whole game of Steam, backup all files, download a whole bunch of mods carefully picking them for compatibility's sake, backing them up as well. Get a mod manager (any) which allows you to pick mods from your HDD and you're pretty much good to go. Of course you'll have limits and updating a mod will be hard, but besides the crap when dealing with limited download speed or availability there's nothing that stands in yoru way. The game once activated on steam and downloaded does not require a constant open connection, and will run fine without it (it keeps a local copy of the data which should be uploaded to steam (your game progress), and once connected will upload it).

 

The current version of Skyrim is the final one (people say) so there will not be (or the chance is very low) that the Skyrim version will update again. So in theory there are no more major changes coming up.

[frank lee]

Complete re-install yesterday morning and tried Skyrim-Mod-Manager to see if that was any better. What a mess! It probably works a shed load better for someone with a set-up in better condition than mine, not trying to run it on a low-end rig with erroded componants etc. But I gave up and trashed the lot before going to bed and left the machine defraging overnight. Needlesss to say NexusModManager isn't much help.

 

I'm going to have some of my linux systems take a look at my saved Skyrim componants, if there is anything like an infection in there Trinity will make short work of it and distros like Ultimate can detect and sometimes repair windows archives. . . Nothing better to do while I wait for the 21st century to reach me here.

 

I was at a friends house in a town a while ago and 'trying' to download some nexus mods to the laptop [Fujitsu-Siemens Amelio Se - Ubuntu 11.10 + Win8 Corperate + Hackintosh 10.8] My friend said his landline broadband was 1gig, I mesured it and it actually came to 256k! And that's a landline he's paying God knows how much for. No not technically gifted the Spanish, God bless their cotton socks. You see it doesn't matter how much you pay here, if the infastucture isn't there your just chucking money at people who will accept it with promises and shrug their shoulders when it fails to work.

 

The (increadably picturesque) village down the valley used to have mobile coverage In-One-Place! in the street, easily identifiable by the carpet of cigarette ends, where you had to stand to recieve a signal ;D Imagine if you had doshed out $400 on a phone. . .

[TonyTitan]

Broadband is not available to everyone in the US either Frank....so please stop with the 'poor ol me living in Madrid with no fast internet'...LOL! (And I say that in a light hearted/jokingly manner) But I live less then 100 miles south of Wash. DC and do not have a Fios, Cable, or DSL connection to the internet. All connections deemed as 'broadband'. Dial up in my neighborhood would be rated as 1980's 26K at best. And that's on a good day. Wireless? Again, my area is on that 'fringe' of 3G and 4G....and 99.9% of the time it's the slower 3G, and sometimes that even drops. So what was available for me? Unfortunately the more expensive satellite internet. It's not even considered Broadband, but 'Hi-Speed'. It's good considering nothing else is available...but nothing would be better than all those Broadband connections available to the more fortunate.

 

So since you're able to afford everything you mentioned above....give it a shot. Space...it's available everywhere!

 

Best of luck to you! :)

[chevenga]

You cannot install the game without steam, so you must have an internet connection that is able to draw ~5GB of data (without DLCs) or about ~8GB of data (with DLCs) from internet, or you simply cannot play this game.

 

There is no way around that the core game files are not included on the installation DVD they must be downloaded after registration on Steam.

 

I usually agree with your comments, prod80, but this is not correct. The official DVD does indeed have the game files on it, and you can install from the DVD without having to download the files. Here's instructions* from Steam themselves about how to do it:

 

Installing from Disc instead of Steam

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5357-FSQM-0382

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1258133-installing-from-disc-instead-of-steam/

 

* Poorly written, but they're probably still usable for most people.

[TonyTitan]

Chevenga, read the 2nd post in that 2nd link that you have provided there. It's a post from GStaff. In it he explains what is on the physical DVD...And I quote from his post...

 

"I have preordered my physical DVD copy of Skyrim; how am I supposed to install it? Do I need to install the Steam client first?
No. What you're actually installing when you completely install Skyrim from the DVD is the Steam client itself (as long as you haven't installed Steam in your system yet), which will then automatically copy the required game files from the DVD to your hard drive. You'll be asked to enter your Steam account name and password to log onto Steam authentication servers, then setup will start. If you don't have a Steam account you'll be asked to register one before installing Skyrim. Note that some of the files may be pulled from the internet through the Steam client to complete the installation, rather than all being on the DVD."

 

Now I have heard that some parts of the world do have actual game files on the DVD...but it is a very minority bunch. Steam unfortunately is required for the vast majority of installs.

[ripple]

I think what chevenga is clarifying is whether the 'core game files' are located on the DVD, which they are. But when you try to install the game, you will receive a prompt to download and install the Steam Client if you do not already have it installed. Then you will be required to register your copy of the game via Steam, and patch contents will be downloaded and applied automatically from Steam. Having the DVD version does not circumvent Steam, but significantly reduces the volume of files you need to download to complete the game installation. This is the case with the 'regular' retail PC DVD edition of Skyrim. I don't know if the DLCs are on the DVD for the Legendary Edition or if they need to be downloaded from Steam.

Edited July 3, 2013 by ripple

[frank lee]

Well thank you Chevenga and Tony T, this is extremely interesting, Because if the files are on the disk then I shall buy the disk and get the bloody files off it, by main force if nessisary! There are some absurdly powerful tools (usually linux based) for 'rescuing' data, Hirram's, Partition Magic and Trinity that I mentioned earlier are ones I've used before. Because one effect of living far from practical help is you tend to keep tools like that to hand.

 

But I think this raises an interesting question. Lets suppose I buy the legendary disk (which will almost certainly be a dual layer to have all the files on it) I crowbar them out with linux, next I download some (comparativly small) 'fake' steam account bits - which I assume pirates use to make the torrent versions of Skyrim work. Now I have;

(1) my original impared and quite possibly corrupted steam backup files

(2) some new, shiney, clean .bsa's and .esm's and

(3) as many small piratey bits as nessisary to kludge something that works together. . .

 

Now no-one would go to this much trouble if there was an alternative and the mere fact that I'm considering all these desperate mesures gives you a fair idea of my situation. However the interesting question is, am I pirating the game? Sure, I will buy the thing but I'm driving a coach and horses followed by a marching band and an entire armoured column through the EULA. As it happens I actually own a T-shirt the says on the front;

 

"I VOID WARRENTIES"

Perhaps I should look for one that has "and I use eula's for toilet paper" on the back? Many thanks for everyone's interest and input on this. As of last night when I tried to re-re-re-install the vanilla 1.1 game, and it failed, I have nothing that I can make run anymore so I'm off to the city and home late tonight and it's, break out the big guns!!!

 

Finally Tony to respond in a similar light hearted/jokingly manner, good point - yes it could be worse, I could be in the United States. . .

[prod80]

 

You cannot install the game without steam, so you must have an internet connection that is able to draw ~5GB of data (without DLCs) or about ~8GB of data (with DLCs) from internet, or you simply cannot play this game.

 

There is no way around that the core game files are not included on the installation DVD they must be downloaded after registration on Steam.

 

I usually agree with your comments, prod80, but this is not correct. The official DVD does indeed have the game files on it, and you can install from the DVD without having to download the files. Here's instructions* from Steam themselves about how to do it:

 

Installing from Disc instead of Steam

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5357-FSQM-0382

http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1258133-installing-from-disc-instead-of-steam/

 

* Poorly written, but they're probably still usable for most people.

 

 

Well if that's the case then I dunno that when I try and install the game it starts downloading the whole content (which takes a couple of hours)... maybe some master files were changed and require a re-download? I don't know. But it certainly is not using my DVD.... :S It seems a waste of bandwidth and poor programming to first try online download and if not available you can manually tell steam to install from DVD instead. But perhaps that's just me. However in the guide you link from Bethesda it does say on multiple occassions that when installed from DVD the game has to be activated on Steam and all the required patches must be downloaded. It does not specify how big these files are... As under the topic "I'm on a slow/dial-up internet connection. Can I still activate Skyrim when I install from physical DVD disc? Will I be able to download required updates/patches?" The awnser from Bethesda is "Possibly" which is actually a nice way of saying "We don't know" ... And it's a bit unclear

 

 

I'm on a slow/dial-up internet connection. Can I still activate Skyrim when I install from physical DVD disc? Will I be able to download required updates/patches?

Possibly. You will be able to activate Skyrim on a slow or dial-up connection. Steam activation data files are usually in the order of a few megabytes, so should only take a few minutes to download. However, at activation time it is required to install any required updates/patches.

 

Next time reinstalling Skyrim (if ever) I will certainly try to circumvent Steam, I'd love to know as well if this is actually possible. It feels weird to have physical media without the actual playable content on it. But I guess that's today's world full with DRM and whatnot.

[frank lee]

A simple activation isn't going to be a problem, even the 2G or no-G connection can manage that, but large file transfers is out of the question. I would be paying a stupid amount of money for large download that will fail before it's complete unless I get very very lucky, and I pay whether the file tranfer succeeds or not.

 

Nosing around it seems that the Legendary Edition is 19 Gig of data! and however many sources agree that the files are on the disks. While that is not 'problem solved' it is something to work with.

 

All of which brings us back to the original question of the language packs :biggrin: Lol!

 

Try to remember, we are doing this for fun. . .

[chevenga]

Chevenga, read the 2nd post in that 2nd link that you have provided there. It's a post from GStaff. In it he explains what is on the physical DVD...And I quote from his post...

 

"I have preordered my physical DVD copy of Skyrim; how am I supposed to install it? Do I need to install the Steam client first?

No. What you're actually installing when you completely install Skyrim from the DVD is the Steam client itself (as long as you haven't installed Steam in your system yet), which will then automatically copy the required game files from the DVD to your hard drive. You'll be asked to enter your Steam account name and password to log onto Steam authentication servers, then setup will start. If you don't have a Steam account you'll be asked to register one before installing Skyrim. Note that some of the files may be pulled from the internet through the Steam client to complete the installation, rather than all being on the DVD."

 

I do not think what you read means what you think you read. You missed something important:

 

"What you're actually installing when you completely install Skyrim from the DVD is the Steam client itself (as long as you haven't installed Steam in your system yet), which will then automatically copy the required game files from the DVD to your hard drive...Note that some of the files may be pulled from the internet through the Steam client to complete the installation, rather than all being on the DVD."

 

This is saying that the files are still being installed from the DVD. Only updates (files newer than what's on the DVD) will be downloaded rather than installed from the DVD.

 

Please note that that post was written 11 November 2011, back when updates were expected, the DLC hadn't even been announced yet, and users could be expected to have to download bug fixes and DLC.

 

Now that the Legendary Edition is out, which AFAIK contains all of the DLCs and the latest game files, users won't even have to download updates, 'cause there aren't any.

 

Now I have heard that some parts of the world do have actual game files on the DVD...but it is a very minority bunch. Steam unfortunately is required for the vast majority of installs.

 

You might be conflating the default behavior (Steam automatically downloading rather than installing from DVD) with the required behavior. You might also be conflating Steam being required with Steam being required to download the game.

 

Regardless of region, an official DVD contains the game files.

 

So if users follow the Steam-provided instructions, they can install from a DVD without having to download the entire game via the Steam client.