fifteenspades Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I detest her as a person but enjoy her as a character. Whenever I think, that I have seen the worst of her, she manages to surprise me by sinking yet another tiny bit lower on the likeable skale. Apart from this, I don't think the TG are puppets. They are simply trying not to anger their last important client, who has a tendency to be ... a bit dificult to please. Also I think the argument about some people prefering the TG from Skyrim over that from Oblivion (at least the one I read) went into the direction that they prefered the Riften Guild because there is no way to sugar-coat that they are a criminal organization by saying that it's all for a good cause or such. If you want to play a good, lawful character in Skyrim, you have to skip the Thieves Guild. ... Although it is probably debatable whether or not the Guild in Oblivion is so very robin-hoodish.I am not actually lawful but just hate the way they conduct business and causing troubles to all my NPCs. The next time I went in I am like playing a double agent XD .For Dark Brotherhood case, dont really want to kill any NPCs when the town is already lacking in NPCs. Next you take out another few more... damn. Sometimes, this causes a few more NPCs to die. I don't exactly like it. I felt that they really need to change the mechanics of sneaking and detecting. It doesnt seem to work too well. You can walk on broad daylight because you have a superhigh sneaking ability. Doesn't make sense. This is why you have mods to correct issues such as this. I think you should enjoy the fact skyrim TG isn't like Oblivion's of even Morrowinds, it shows that the games are evolving with the TES lore. Like the Mages guild, i enjoyed playing it in Morrowind and it was huge one in every major city. Yet they don't even exist in skyrim because of the collapse of it. So you basically have a dynamic game genre? series? idk what you call it. As for Maven just look at like, the TG needs her to even survive. You may hate the Government in your country ( if it has it ) But without the gov't you wouldn't even be able to function properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisnpuppy Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 There is a mod that lets you kill her for a small reward...assuming you understand this will break certain quests. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graywolfe Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 yeah i can't stand her either. I would love to be able to turn her over to the jarl and have her go to prison :). I was compeletly shocked that she was for the empire and not the stormcloaks. it was a bit satisfiing to go to her house and steal Frost and the papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonicslayer85 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Well, Maven Black-Briar and Siddgeir are what's wrong with the democracy system. The longer the system, the corruption and abuse of power become worst. This character is to showed us the flaws in the Empire, despite what they are trying to achieve. Stormcloak has their idiots in Skald the Elder and Korir. It just show that when a country has so many bad apples as their leader, there won't be peace. However, after going through the quests, I found that the whole game is like referring to our world where politics and religions are messed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleinstaff Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Maven isn't so bad it is her son that i really dislike you know the one with a comment against youabout you being a adventuring type because you wouldn't be able to jold out in a real battle that one gets my my blood boiling especially on high levels sadly he is flagged as essentual and i can't kull him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVampireDante Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Find ID - remove essential - go feral on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buba1 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 just because of her this time im going stormcloack......wish there was a mod that lets me kill this byotch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVampireDante Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Hey, Buba1: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/34149//? Might be something interesting to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcd1976 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Given that you can't REALLY take Maven out without game breaking consequences, why not use her for entertainment purposes. I'm pretty sure there's a mod that lets you pit NPC's against each other. Why not a 3 way death match between Maven, Nazeem, and Braith ( my money is on Braith). On a side note, is Mavens daughter marriageable because, because she's pretty hot ( body mod depending)? I've often thought of marrying Mavens Daughter and freeloading in the lap of luxury in Riften, whenever I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buba1 Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Hey, Buba1: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/34149//? Might be something interesting to you.wooooooow thanks dude this is exactly what i needed, i dont care about breaking some quests, theres plenty enough stuff going on in skyrim, i dont care if i lose all the thieves guild quests i dont even like them :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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