Wondering why my Skyrim Crashes

[Kaisenati]

So I have many problems with my Skyrim. Some happening just days after or before the other. I feel like my problem is the fact that I might have hit the ceiling apparently. I started to have some issues before I started a new game. I figured that I would start a new character and I played for a few days until I got to a point where it constantly crashes a few minutes in game (I am inside an Inn when it occurs).

Another problem I got just before was that my camera got extremely warped (I feel like a most recent mod is the culprit). It is far too zoomed in and I have no idea if it has anything to do with Customizable Camera as it has no settings that could possibly change it in this manner.

So to try to troubleshoot the problems, I used BOSS and have no major errors. Just cleanup and Bash edits I should sometime learn about. I also used TesVedit and scrolled through the entire scan carefully and found nothing out of the ordinary. No error messages of any kind. I downloaded Skyrim Performance Monitor to see if it is a performance issue. There's a possibility that I have hit a ceiling ramwise. I attempted to use Skyrim Mods Complex Optimizer to see if it was indeed a performance issue and possibly boost my skyrim along with it but had to roll back my changes. I'm somewhat new to modding but I feel like I was getting the hang of it until now. Before I go too far I figured that I would stop trying to fix it on my own (one month's time on and off) and let others see to it.

Here's my load order:

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
AP Skyrim.esm
JSwords.esm
moonpath.esm
SPIKE.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Rainbows.esp
IceBreaker's Improved Reverb-v0.02-Cleaned.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
BirdsHFclean.esp
BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
knownspells.esp
Lost Art of the Blacksmith.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE.esp
RealShelter.esp
ShootingStars.esp
skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
KaceAutoloot.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp
JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
Ket_3DLoadscreens.esp
NoxUE2.00.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
towConversation.esp
WetandCold.esp
SkyUI.esp
iHUD.esp
LessIntrusiveHUD.esp
Customizable Camera.esp
Cloaks - No Imperial.esp
Cloaks - No Imperial - Dawnguard.esp
1nivWICCloaks.esp
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch-No Imp.esp
Crossbows_Basic_Collection_DE.esp
hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
KWTelescope.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
XAC.esp
MIDFollowMeCloser.esp
SkyRe_Main.esp
SkyRe_Combat.esp
SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
SkyRe_StandingStones.esp
SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
SkyRe_hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
SkyRe_Plugin_ImmersiveArmor_4.esp
buildablehouse.esp
Dragon Falls Manor.esp
Hunting in Skyrim.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
thereserve.esp
The Scribes Lectern.esp
towBlockSteal.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
Brighter Campfires X20.esp
Headtracking.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
bathhouse.esp
Realistic Lighting.esp
Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp
Realistic Lighting - Dawnguard Patch.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
Dwemerverse - Dwarven Magic Package.esp
BetterMagic_FULL.esp
Sneak Tools.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp
Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp
Skyrim Perk Enhancements.esp
SPERG Dawnguard Patch.esp
vImmersiveBeds.esp
Beards.esp
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-UFOPatch.esp
specializedfollowers.esp
Spousetocustomhome.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
SkyRe_Races.esp
SIDT - Skyrim.esp
SIDT - Dawnguard.esp
getSnowy.esp
Purewaters.esp
RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.esp
Blacksmithforge water fix DG.esp
Unique Region Names.esp
EzEWorldMap.esp
DL33-MaiqLoading.esp
DineWithFollowers.esp
DIM-playeridlingmod.esp
Travel By Boat.esp
Bards&Merchants.esp
SkyRe_Plugin_ImmersiveHeavyLegion.esp
ReProccer.esp
Automatic Variants.esp

I feel like my issue could be the loadorder, compatability issue(s), a corrupted save or a performance issue, etc. I changed my ini files back to default which didn't seem to help the problems I have. I saw another topic here that was similar to mine but if it turns out to be the same problem I still have my camera issue. :) I just want to narrow it down and see what the problem(s) can be. I might need to cut back on a mod or two. Let me know if you need any more info. I would love to be able to play my Skyrim again!

[ZeroSbr1]

Well for one, why do you have two HUD mods?

[mindw0rk2]

Backup Textures folder. Compress textures to 1k and see if it solves crash. Im pretty sure it will.

Edited July 18, 2013 by mindw0rk2

[ZeroSbr1]

...Maybe, but I think that the more likely reason as to why it's crashing is probably because he has two HUD and follower system mods.

[mindw0rk2]

He doesnt have those, but when I used city population mods with high res textures, it caused crash in inn for me. Spiked over 3.1

Edited July 18, 2013 by mindw0rk2

[Kaisenati]

I thought they were standalone mods that were borderline compatible and offered something a bit different for each. If that certainly is the problem then I'll keep the one I prefer more.

[ZeroSbr1]

Yeah, having two mods altering the same thing generally isn't good, unless they are specifically compatible via a patch or just naturally.

[Nudedragon]

Well for one, why do you have two HUD mods?

Those two mods are designed to be used together. They don't overlap much, and they overlap flawlessly where they must.

 

I think Immersive Beds might be the issue, or realistic lighting, based on your crashing in inns. I don't see any mods that jump out as dirty or misplaced, from my personal experience, though.

[Kaisenati]

So I think I have figured out what my problem is. I tried uninstalling immersive beds but it still crashed at the same point. There is another mod, however, that I had the suspicion for awhile to be the mod that was messing with my camera. It happened to be called Face to Face Conversation that was causing my Skyrim to crash. My camera is still a bit wonky though so I was wondering if anyone knows if I can reset it back to default settings and also keep it this way? I should probably follow up with the mod's author for compatability issues, etc. Also, to boot, it seems like my Skyrim is even more stable than before but it wouldn't hurt to make sure everything is backed up before I try to use Skyrim Mods Complex Optimizer. Before I even use it I should play skyrim for a few hours to make sure everything is ok. Sometimes it only takes one mod to throwoff the balance. Feels great to be able to play again! :smile:

Edited July 19, 2013 by Kaisenati