alexd725 Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Please help me with my load order(using boss but many unknowns): ----------------------------------------------------------- Better Oblivion Sorting Software Load Order Utility © Random007 & the BOSS development team, 2009-2010 Some rights reserved. CC Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/ v1.51 (2 April 2010) ----------------------------------------------------------- Master .ESM date: Mon Feb 05 02:06:00 2007FCOM not detected.OOO not detected.Better Cities not detected. ------------------------------------Recognised and re-ordered mod files:------------------------------------ Oblivion.esm . Note: BOMM Adjusted Masterlist Revision 1551 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent, Delev, Relev, Actors.AIData,Actors.Stats, Stats}} Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm CM Partners.esm Lattamerv3.esm HorseCombatMaster.esm HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp . Note: May have a problem with Shivering Isles due to changed FormIDs causing a script to be written into cell data by mistake. . Note: A fixed edition (for Shivering Isles ONLY! is avaliable here: http://tinyurl.com/kmgaxd Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp . Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or FCOM. The standalone version can be found here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537 . Note: Recommend installing UOP Supplemental for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710 . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Music,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version). DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp . Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's and FCOM. . Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name. . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relev,Scripts,Stats,Relations}} MOBS SI.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NoMerge,Stats}} MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp Improved Water.esp 300_Combat Sounds.esp Better Bell Sounds.esp Atmospheric Oblivion.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Scripts}} Silent Player Voice.esp PJs Lightning Strikes.esp AdventurersAlchemy.esp Damage Text v2.esp Blackpowder_bombs v04.esp BookTrackerOBSE.esp Days&Months.esp Display Stats.esp noreplicas.esp Oscars_Nicer_Grass-3346.esp Personality Idles - Modified version.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.Anims}} shiveringislesdoorusable.esp SkeletonShaders.esp VA_BetterGold.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}} Xero's Fame Indicator.esp FastEquipping.esp . Note: Don't use hotkeys to change Warcry-style 'set' equipment. Game bug. DLCHorseArmor.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Scripts}} DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Owner}} DLCOrrery.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIPackages}} DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}} DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relev}} DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp . Conflicts with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'. Explosives.esp GuildmasterChests.esp Mounted_Steering.esp Mounted_Spellcasting.esp Mounted_Trampling.esp Call Steed 2.5+Saddlebags 0.91.esp DLCThievesDen.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Light,Actors.ACBS,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.Stats}} DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Light,C.Name,C.Music}} DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Francesco's Optional Files.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Delev,Relev}} Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}} Alluring Wine Bottles.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}} un-leveled-shops.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{Invent,Relev}} Extended Imperial City.esp Extended Chorrol.esp Extended Skingrad.esp Abriael_Human.esp Secrets.esp Angel's Arena Loot en.esp . Note: Unlikely to work with other IC Arena mods ArenaGamblingHighRollers.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner,Factions}} DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp . Note: Possible conflict with Frostcrag Reborn. Do not use both or land tearing will occur. . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}} and remove the C.Climate and C.Light tags Knights.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIPackages,Factions}} Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.ACBS,Actors.AIPackages,Factions,Relations}} Harvest [Flora].esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics,Scripts}} Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp 100% Harvest Chance.esp Auto Potion.esp CBScryingv1.esp CompanionHorseSupport.esp . Requires: OBSE version 17b or higher. CompanionHorseSupportFIX forCMPartners.esp . Requires: OBSE version 17b or higher. DropLitTorchOBSE.esp Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp 2nd to 1st person.esp OBGate Partner bugfix.esp Oblivifall - Let's Talk!.esp P1DkeyChain.esp ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp SRJIrresponsibleHorses.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,NoMerge}} ATakesAll.esp VisiblyUnlimited.esp Quest Award Leveller.esp Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp WPHealthRegen.esp RealisticForceLow.esp RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp CompanionRepair.esp . Requires: RefStuff, OBSE. PJs Spells - Cheap Spells.esp . Note: Use only one 'PJs Spells - Cheap Spells.esp' or 'PJs Spell Compendium - No Requirements.esp' or 'PJs Spell Compendium - Spell Requirements.esp' SpellDeflection.esp TeachSpell.esp no spell limit.esp MidasSpells.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent}} Disease Immunity (Oblivion).esp . Note: Only use one Disease Immunity esp - use this one without SI. Disease Immunity (Oblivion + Shivering Isles).esp . Note: Only use one Disease Immunity esp - use this one with SI. Friendlier Summons.esp Poison FX.esp Poison Arrows.esp . Requires: OBSE 15 or higher. dyseso_Alchemy_Potion_Perks.esp Poison Equipper.esp Merchants Buy Stolen Goods.esp RenGuardOverhaul.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData}} sycHearNoEvil.esp Fast Arrow Collection.esp . Requires: OBSE 16+ NE_Realistic_Blocking.esp QuickPowerAttacks 1.0.esp Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp . Note: Use no more than one Timed Block ESP. Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp . Note: Use no more than one Timed Block ESP. Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp . Note: Use no more than one Timed Block ESP. DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp . Note: See http://omploader.org/vMmJlbA/DRtestfix.zip for a hotfix for CTD issues. Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp . Note: Causes CTD with companions. Use 'Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection' to avoid this. SniperSneakSkillup.esp All+5AttributeModifiers.esp Francesco's level up mini mod - Slower skills x1.5.esp Minionz.esp . Requires: OBSE CM Partners.esp CM Partners Special NPCs.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} CM Partners NPC.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} CM Partners More NPCs.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} Recastable Summons.esp Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp . Note: Respawn and Timescale mod . Note: Use only one Respawn or Timescale mod Alt LifeDetected.esp Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp LightSpellWhite.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp Streamline 3.1.esp -----------------------------------------------------------------Unrecognised mod files: Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Unknown mod file: BreakingWindext.espUnknown mod file: cmKierra_shamikka.espUnknown mod file: CM Partner Jena.espUnknown mod file: Minotaur Companion.espUnknown mod file: ValtierroV1_RLv4.espUnknown mod file: CustomScrolls.espUnknown mod file: Marksman_Chaos-1919.espUnknown mod file: Toggle Zoom - Mouse Wheel.espUnknown mod file: Insane Melee Sneakilling.espUnknown mod file: Placable_Log_Traps-5218.espUnknown mod file: MM24Hour.espUnknown mod file: Sigil Stone Changes.espUnknown mod file: Unlimited Soul Gems.espUnknown mod file: MM_StolenHorseOwnership.espUnknown mod file: RealBanditsAndHighwaymen.espUnknown mod file: No Guard Leveling.espUnknown mod file: Distraction.espUnknown mod file: Ranokoas Organized Potions Two.espUnknown mod file: Identify Creature.espUnknown mod file: The_Student_Mod-3069.espUnknown mod file: Z Fatigue Gone.espUnknown mod file: Oblivion Weight Limit x20000.espUnknown mod file: GKs Max Merchant Gold.espUnknown mod file: Higher Priced Gems.espUnknown mod file: Walk faster.espUnknown mod file: Ultimate_Archer-2026.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexd725 Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Can anyone help with this load order(i'm using boss,but alot of unknowns): ----------------------------------------------------------- Better Oblivion Sorting Software Load Order Utility © Random007 & the BOSS development team, 2009-2010 Some rights reserved. CC Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/ v1.51 (2 April 2010) ----------------------------------------------------------- Master .ESM date: Mon Feb 05 02:06:00 2007FCOM not detected.OOO not detected.Better Cities not detected. ------------------------------------Recognised and re-ordered mod files:------------------------------------ Oblivion.esm . Note: BOMM Adjusted Masterlist Revision 1551 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent, Delev, Relev, Actors.AIData,Actors.Stats, Stats}} Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm CM Partners.esm Lattamerv3.esm HorseCombatMaster.esm HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp . Note: May have a problem with Shivering Isles due to changed FormIDs causing a script to be written into cell data by mistake. . Note: A fixed edition (for Shivering Isles ONLY! is avaliable here: http://tinyurl.com/kmgaxd Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp . Note: Use Standalone MOBS if using Frans or FCOM. The standalone version can be found here: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28537 . Note: Recommend installing UOP Supplemental for additional fixes: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27710 . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.CombatStyle,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Music,C.Name,C.Owner,Creatures.Blood,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relations,Relev,Scripts,Stats}} and remove the C.Water tag (only exist in older version). DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp . Note: Remember to use the 'MOBS' version when using Francesco's and FCOM. . Note: Newest MOBS and non-MOBS versions have the same name. . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.DeathItem,Actors.Stats,C.Climate,C.Light,C.Name,C.Owner,Delev,Factions,Invent,Names,Relev,Scripts,Stats,Relations}} MOBS SI.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:NoMerge,Stats}} MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp Improved Water.esp 300_Combat Sounds.esp Better Bell Sounds.esp Atmospheric Oblivion.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Scripts}} Silent Player Voice.esp PJs Lightning Strikes.esp AdventurersAlchemy.esp Damage Text v2.esp Blackpowder_bombs v04.esp BookTrackerOBSE.esp Days&Months.esp Display Stats.esp noreplicas.esp Oscars_Nicer_Grass-3346.esp Personality Idles - Modified version.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.Anims}} shiveringislesdoorusable.esp SkeletonShaders.esp VA_BetterGold.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}} Xero's Fame Indicator.esp FastEquipping.esp . Note: Don't use hotkeys to change Warcry-style 'set' equipment. Game bug. DLCHorseArmor.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Scripts}} DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Owner}} DLCOrrery.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIPackages}} DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}} DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Relev}} DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp . Conflicts with: 'CDM-CGO Compatibility plugins'. Explosives.esp GuildmasterChests.esp Mounted_Steering.esp Mounted_Spellcasting.esp Mounted_Trampling.esp Call Steed 2.5+Saddlebags 0.91.esp DLCThievesDen.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Light,Actors.ACBS,Actors.AIPackages,Actors.Stats}} DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Light,C.Name,C.Music}} DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Francesco's Optional Files.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Delev,Relev}} Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}} Alluring Wine Bottles.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics}} un-leveled-shops.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{Invent,Relev}} Extended Imperial City.esp Extended Chorrol.esp Extended Skingrad.esp Abriael_Human.esp Secrets.esp Angel's Arena Loot en.esp . Note: Unlikely to work with other IC Arena mods ArenaGamblingHighRollers.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner,Factions}} DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp . Note: Possible conflict with Frostcrag Reborn. Do not use both or land tearing will occur. . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:C.Name,C.Owner}} and remove the C.Climate and C.Light tags Knights.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIPackages,Factions}} Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.ACBS,Actors.AIPackages,Factions,Relations}} Harvest [Flora].esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Graphics,Scripts}} Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp 100% Harvest Chance.esp Auto Potion.esp CBScryingv1.esp CompanionHorseSupport.esp . Requires: OBSE version 17b or higher. CompanionHorseSupportFIX forCMPartners.esp . Requires: OBSE version 17b or higher. DropLitTorchOBSE.esp Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp 2nd to 1st person.esp OBGate Partner bugfix.esp Oblivifall - Let's Talk!.esp P1DkeyChain.esp ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp SRJIrresponsibleHorses.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData,NoMerge}} ATakesAll.esp VisiblyUnlimited.esp Quest Award Leveller.esp Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp WPHealthRegen.esp RealisticForceLow.esp RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp CompanionRepair.esp . Requires: RefStuff, OBSE. PJs Spells - Cheap Spells.esp . Note: Use only one 'PJs Spells - Cheap Spells.esp' or 'PJs Spell Compendium - No Requirements.esp' or 'PJs Spell Compendium - Spell Requirements.esp' SpellDeflection.esp TeachSpell.esp no spell limit.esp MidasSpells.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Invent}} Disease Immunity (Oblivion).esp . Note: Only use one Disease Immunity esp - use this one without SI. Disease Immunity (Oblivion + Shivering Isles).esp . Note: Only use one Disease Immunity esp - use this one with SI. Friendlier Summons.esp Poison FX.esp Poison Arrows.esp . Requires: OBSE 15 or higher. dyseso_Alchemy_Potion_Perks.esp Poison Equipper.esp Merchants Buy Stolen Goods.esp RenGuardOverhaul.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.AIData}} sycHearNoEvil.esp Fast Arrow Collection.esp . Requires: OBSE 16+ NE_Realistic_Blocking.esp QuickPowerAttacks 1.0.esp Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp . Note: Use no more than one Timed Block ESP. Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp . Note: Use no more than one Timed Block ESP. Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp . Note: Use no more than one Timed Block ESP. DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp . Note: See http://omploader.org/vMmJlbA/DRtestfix.zip for a hotfix for CTD issues. Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp . Note: Causes CTD with companions. Use 'Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection' to avoid this. SniperSneakSkillup.esp All+5AttributeModifiers.esp Francesco's level up mini mod - Slower skills x1.5.esp Minionz.esp . Requires: OBSE CM Partners.esp CM Partners Special NPCs.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} CM Partners NPC.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} CM Partners More NPCs.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp . Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Hair,Eyes}} Recastable Summons.esp Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp . Note: Respawn and Timescale mod . Note: Use only one Respawn or Timescale mod Alt LifeDetected.esp Visually Realistic Deadly Lava.esp LightSpellWhite.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp Streamline 3.1.esp -----------------------------------------------------------------Unrecognised mod files: Reorder these by hand using your favourite mod ordering utility. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Unknown mod file: BreakingWindext.espUnknown mod file: cmKierra_shamikka.espUnknown mod file: CM Partner Jena.espUnknown mod file: Minotaur Companion.espUnknown mod file: ValtierroV1_RLv4.espUnknown mod file: CustomScrolls.espUnknown mod file: Marksman_Chaos-1919.espUnknown mod file: Toggle Zoom - Mouse Wheel.espUnknown mod file: Insane Melee Sneakilling.espUnknown mod file: Placable_Log_Traps-5218.espUnknown mod file: MM24Hour.espUnknown mod file: Sigil Stone Changes.espUnknown mod file: Unlimited Soul Gems.espUnknown mod file: MM_StolenHorseOwnership.espUnknown mod file: RealBanditsAndHighwaymen.espUnknown mod file: No Guard Leveling.espUnknown mod file: Distraction.espUnknown mod file: Ranokoas Organized Potions Two.espUnknown mod file: Identify Creature.espUnknown mod file: The_Student_Mod-3069.espUnknown mod file: Z Fatigue Gone.espUnknown mod file: Oblivion Weight Limit x20000.espUnknown mod file: GKs Max Merchant Gold.espUnknown mod file: Higher Priced Gems.espUnknown mod file: Walk faster.espUnknown mod file: Ultimate_Archer-2026.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XJDHDR Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 First, try avoiding double-posts. Second, my recommendation with the unknowns is that you list them on BOSS's Bethsoft forum topic, preferably with a description of what the mod does and/or a link to the mod, so that it can be added to a future version of the masterlist. It will probably take less than a week or two to get added. As for me, I have never seen any of those mods before so I can't really recommend an optimal load order for them. As for the mods that were recognised, I spotted a few problems:HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.espI recommend that you remove this. The performance improvement is minuscule and numerous people have reported that it causes bugs. Personality Idles - Modified version.esp. Bashed Patch tag suggestion: {{BASH:Actors.Anims}}The version of this mod you have installed recently became outdated. I suggest you get the latest version. Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.espAre you sure both of these need to be installed? It looks to me like two seperate languages of the same mod, but I could be wrong. Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp. Note: Use no more than one Timed Block ESP. Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block and 250% damage.esp. Note: Use no more than one Timed Block ESP. Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp. Note: Use no more than one Timed Block ESP.The masterlist and DR's readme both tell you to use only one Timed block ESP but I see here that you have all three installed. I suggest you delete the two you don't want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bismillah Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Hi!anybody knows how to fix the bug that appears when you summon some creature?? the game crashes and i have to restart the computer!! please answer!! thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth613 Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Follow the above advice from XJDHDR. Just to clarify on the Torch mod, a quote from the Readme:Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.51 DTActors recieve default torch. A mod that edits the default torch will give modded torch to actors inside. Woot indeed! Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.51 CTActors recieve a copy of default torch named Drop Torch. Mods that edit the default torch do not apply to torches given to actors. However, the copied torches in this version count as droppable lit torches. Again you only need to use one, not both. Apparently you're not reading the information provided with the mods you download, instead you're just mindlessly adding files to your Data folder. This is not going to end well for you. But I will offer some suggestions for the mods that are not recognized. Group them according to what they do and place them with similar mods already sorted by BOSS. I.E. Combat mods go with other combat mods, cosmetic with other cosmetics, etc... etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubuntufreakdragon Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) helloi´ve a small ploblem with my scripti need a command to force it waitig 1 frame otherwise the game will crash. edit: problem is solved Edited August 30, 2011 by ubuntufreakdragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timber57 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Hi, Thank you very much for this handy summary for preventing crashes. I’d greatly appreciate if you would consider add step-by-step instructions on how to use mod management tools such as OBMM, Wyre Bash, or BOSS. And here is why:As a mods-novice, I’ve searched heatedly on the Internet for tutorials on OBMM, Wyre Bash, or the combined use of OBMM, WB, and BOSS. To my surprise, this kind of information is not too abundant on the Internet. The instructions posted on the software makers’ official sites or included in the software package are too technical and vague at the same time, giving an extremely hard time to new game players like myself. For instance, these are SOME of the questions I have after reading the instructions on several famous authoritative websites/forums: In OBMM: 1. How do I know whether I should select the “Archive Invalidation” option or not when I add a new mod?2. OBMM will check if conflicts exist between mods. What should I do if I see conflicts (marked with red text) in the conflict report? In WB:1. In order to use the Balo feature, do I have to manually assign each mod to a group (i.e. clothing, place, etc) for load order? In my case none of the mods I added will get groups assigned automatically.2. Bash Patch: This is the most confusing part. If I am adding a new mod for adding a new armor, should I rebuild patch? In addition, when I click on the Rebuild Patch option, should I ALWAYS select the “Merge Patch” option if I want to keep things simple, that is, giving up the advanced feature of individually selecting what features to be imported from mods? If no checkboxes are checked, what is the point of doing a rebuild patch? On the other hand, it seems that the mods who contain new stuff won’t be identified as “mergeable” and thus wouldn’t be “merged” by performing the “Merge Patch” option under “Rebuild Patch”. Ultimately my question becomes how to use the Bash Patch for various kinds of mods, I guess. These kinds of "Idiot's Series: How to use TES 4 Mod Managers" is in high demand and currently no supply exists whatsoever. Would you be able to help those of us who are struggling on these issues? Sincerely, Hear, Hear! I totally agree. I can barely use OBMM to get by, leave well enough alone is my motto, all those features and tools in OBMM are 'Greek' to me, and Wrye Bash is for the programmer savvy and software proficient. So an Idiots Guide to both is greatly needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keirgarth Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Unfortunately, some things require some study in order to understand. Wrye Bash is very very robust and can be confusing even to those that have used it a little while due to all that it is capable of. There is a site that Wrye directs you to from it's readme that has a step by step instruction guide for those that just want to be able to get mods to work and nothing else. I will find the URL and post it shortly. As far as the bashed patch, I may be doing it wrong, but when I install a mod I open the dialog to rebuild the patch to see if anything is new in it that needs to have a tic mark. If I find nothing new, I cancel out and leave it alone. If however I find that there was something new after installing a mod, then I rebuild the patch. OBMM and archive invalidation only needs to be done once, and it is recommended that it be done when you install your first mod so that you don't have to worry about it any more. As far as checking for conflicts, that all depends on what you have installed and what you want working. Oblivion looks at the load order as a soft of transparency map. If viewed from the bottom up, anything that isn't covered on the bottom allows the game to see to the next mod up the list. If that mod doesn't cover it, then it is allowed to see further up the list until finally it seems the base game files if nothing has changed anything in that area. As an example, if you put an armor mod into the game followed by a skin replacer mod followed by a weapon mod and finally followed by another skin replacer this is what Oblivion would see: Skin replacer first, weapon mod, armor mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XJDHDR Posted November 25, 2011 Author Share Posted November 25, 2011 Quite frankly, the guide is a "how to prevent/reduce bugs and crashes" guide, not a "how to install mods" guide. For mod managing, I do not recommend the use of Oblivion Mod Manager. It's main flaw is that it handles resource conflicts very badly. As a result, I only ever use it to install shader mods and manipulate BSAs and even then, I'm hoping for the release of tools that will replace those. As for Wrye Bash, I heavily recommend learning how to use that for installing mods. It is simply the superior tool. As for guides, there are plenty of those for Wrye Bash. In particular, I hear that Alternity's Pictorial guide is one of the best available. Otherwise, I am now playing Skyrim and will probably write a guide for that sometime in the future. Honestly though, I think Bethesda have done an excellent job and it is my personal opinion that Skyrim performs better and is more stable than Oblivion or either of the two latest Fallout games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Valarian Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) I'm getting saving crashes. See oblivion-mod trouble shooting for details. It nearly everytime. I need help asap. Thanks. http://forums.nexusm...h-on-save-game/ EDIT: I found the problems. Here's are the fixes. It took months of research to find the correct fixes. Crash on exterior <-> interior: Turn off bloom lightning and Anti-Aliasing Save game corruption and many other crashes: Remove Keychain mod(v5.00) Edited September 12, 2012 by Lord Valarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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