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Hey, everyone.

After trying to troubleshoot this issue for few days, I'm getting desperate and resorting to opening this thread.

 

I'm talking about extremely old (since Morrowind) GameBryo bug.

Every previous Bethesda game has mod to fix this (New Vegas stutter removal).

I'm not talking about stutters related to low frame rates, or sudden fps drops or object loading or anything like that.

 

This is the first time this bug was identified 11 years ago. Extremely well documented and researched thread. Upon this discovery mods started popping up fixing this issue for previous Bethesda titles (since all of them had this issue).

 

Somewhere down the road, people just switched to using borderless windowed instead of native fullscreen, since that appeared to fix this issue. Myself included. This is how i went through Skyrim. This bug almost always goes under the Bethesda radar, since its extremely hard to notice. Majority of people just dont care, cant differentiate between frame rate related issue and 64hz microstutter bug. It is only the problem for OCD autists like myself.

 

If you google this 64hz bug there are literally hundreds and thousands of solutions to this, but unfortunately, for Fallout 4, none seem to work for me. And there is no mod one-click solution for this like in previous titles.

 

My rig's specs are i7 16gb ddr4 1080ti 8gb

My constant fps is 60+ never going below (standard 60hz monitor; gaming on 1080p resolution). Vsync always on (in-game native setting).

 

I repeat, this issue is not hardware related to my specific setup. This is easily reproduceable even on lowest graphics and lowest settings.

 

So far things that i've tried:

 

- running game in borderless fullscreen (native setting from fallout4launcher.exe)

- disabling native vsync / enabling it in nvidia control panel

- disabling native vsync / enabling it in nvidia inspector

- disabling native vsync / enabling it in msi afterburner / riva tuner statistics

- disabling native vsync / disabling outside vsync (global off) - limiting fps to 59.97 or 60 in nvidia control panel

- disabling native vsync / disabling outside vsync (global off) - limiting fps to 59.97 or 60 in nvidia inspector

- disabling native vsync / disabling outside vsync (global off) - limiting fps to 59.97 or 60 in msi afterburner / riva tuner statistics

- enabling triple buffering

- enabling pre-rendered frames

- enabling fast-sync (and other types)

- overclocking monitor and enabling 64hz resolution (with vsync on; vsync off + frame limiters on)

- tried disabling hyperthreading from bios (completely unrelated solution, but just to check this off)

- tried disabling HID devices and controllers (completely unrelated solution, but just to check this off)

- the only thing that so far seems to absolutely and completely eliminate this issue is ifpsclamp=60 (vsync on/off - same result) - but as we all know it, this is extremely bad solution to problem, since it introduces other myriad of in-game engine bugs (vault doors not opening, magnetic doors not unlocking etc; slowdowns if sudden fps drop etc).

 

Anyway, I'll be glad to test some stuff with you while troubleshooting this extremely annoying issue.

 

Please, before advising adjusting hardware specs and decreasing graphics and nonsense like this, read linked thread higher.

 

This is the video of micro-stutters. I dont know how well you would be able to see on youtube, since it downgrades quality, but look for sudden and weird "hiccups", even despite the fact that fps is always constant 60 frames per second.

 

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hey thanks for response, while it looked promising, i've tried that mod, and it didnt help.

after removing clamp=61 from my ini and trying that mod with buffout (all other required libraries for that) the result was same micro-stuttering.

 

I read all of that, and i truly want to blow your mind. Ok let's start over with more details.

Are you using HDMI connection?

What brand serial number is the monitor?

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answer that and I'll show you what can be done to completely remove the fault.

In other words your barking up the wrong tree.

 

Just might have your answer, let's see how this goes.

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hey thanks for response, while it looked promising, i've tried that mod, and it didnt help.

after removing clamp=61 from my ini and trying that mod with buffout (all other required libraries for that) the result was same micro-stuttering.

 

I read all of that, and i truly want to blow your mind. Ok let's start over with more details.

Are you using HDMI connection?

What brand serial number is the monitor?

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answer that and I'll show you what can be done to completely remove the fault.

In other words your barking up the wrong tree.

 

Just might have your answer, let's see how this goes.

 

yes im using standard hdmi cable, in fact i have few of them, i tried changing them few months ago to test if it was faulty cable.

my monitor is pretty old but solid asus mx279.

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hey thanks for response, while it looked promising, i've tried that mod, and it didnt help.

after removing clamp=61 from my ini and trying that mod with buffout (all other required libraries for that) the result was same micro-stuttering.

 

I read all of that, and i truly want to blow your mind. Ok let's start over with more details.

Are you using HDMI connection?

What brand serial number is the monitor?

-----------------------------------------------------------

answer that and I'll show you what can be done to completely remove the fault.

In other words your barking up the wrong tree.

 

Just might have your answer, let's see how this goes.

 

yes im using standard hdmi cable, in fact i have few of them, i tried changing them few months ago to test if it was faulty cable.

my monitor is pretty old but solid asus mx279.

 

ok, here's what ifound.

([LCD monitor] Which ASUS monitor support 1080p @ 120Hz on Sony PS5 and Xbox Series X ? | Official Support | ASUS USA)

Is that correct ?

 

Now, perhaps in the bunch of cables you own, you may own something a bit better than standard?

Just so we are both on the same track ?

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Not pushing anything here, Just emphasizing the issues are common. and I too have been there with a variety of strange issues hidden that software could not detect.

I'll let ya know, I spent a great deal of money on cables until I found that one that fixed the bugs, once I confirmed the issues was solved on several monitors and PC combinations.

The above was submitted.

I own a lot hun. quite a bit.

 

The cable mentioned in the publishing was next to another brand of the same caliber and that other one did not fix the bugs. The cable published did.

here's one of my toys.

 

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Now, the mind blower is the simple fact you hit on the exact topic.

"Mystic Arts" means something. Not to be ignored. If you understand what Deja Vue is? It happens to every one. it can make the hair on the back of your neck stand up.

So you know? that toy there has no HDD or ssd IN it.

the thing on top of the case is a fire wire RAVPOWER 1 TB 3.2 SSD Windows 11 Platform portable. It's my test station.

the specs of the 35 monitors in the garage are just about the most popular units people like or buy the most. And yes

I spend money , a lot of it.

 

I've done the work so I can stand behind any thing I say.

If you want the link to the part? I'll provide that here. it's not expensive. But. it IS in fact a hidden avenue you have yet to experience. What counts here is the results. That micro stutter is one or the others not able to keep up

with the processing speed in the circuitry. It's not software related.

 

It's bandwidth related.

 

Kitty Black.

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hey thanks for response, while it looked promising, i've tried that mod, and it didnt help.

after removing clamp=61 from my ini and trying that mod with buffout (all other required libraries for that) the result was same micro-stuttering.

 

I read all of that, and i truly want to blow your mind. Ok let's start over with more details.

Are you using HDMI connection?

What brand serial number is the monitor?

-----------------------------------------------------------

answer that and I'll show you what can be done to completely remove the fault.

In other words your barking up the wrong tree.

 

Just might have your answer, let's see how this goes.

 

yes im using standard hdmi cable, in fact i have few of them, i tried changing them few months ago to test if it was faulty cable.

my monitor is pretty old but solid asus mx279.

 

this is all very interesting and all, but my mx279 doesnt support resolutions higher than 1080p, nor it has support for more than 60hz. every standard hdmi cable should be capable of fully processing 1080p 60hz bandwith, but for the sake of it, i will try better cable, although i highly doubt it this is the issue.

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your Unit support 120 hrz. Frequencies.

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ok let's discuss this.

resolutions is not the same thing as frequencies. they are both different subjects.

 

desktop displays rez are not frequencies.

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Establish this. Is your Monitor on this page at all ?

 

https://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1045097

 

If so I ask again, what is it's serial number. ??

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