Realism

[SpacemanSpIiff]

When it comes down to realism, I think nudity and pubic hair attributes are the last thing on the list of things to do. some of those things you mentioned arent even impossible for one (Adjusting bust shape cannot be done with a slider in oblivion). And what IS possible in that list has already been done, NUMEROUS times, and even then that alone isnt realistic, No woman with a real sense of shame and dignity would prance around wearing silver nipple tassles and a thong and call that armor, in a realistic world. And if they tried bringing that into combat, they would get cut down really quickly, because realistically, no one is SO agile that they can dodge everything.

 

I think you should look for realism where it should be realistically applied, and thats in the combat portions of the game.

[Germandeathkittiez]

I realise that there are a great many mods that cover realism.

 

The point im trying to make is that all the mods available are difficult to mesh with other mods and that a single dedicated coalition of modders focusing on a single total conversion mod would bring oblivion into its rightful place. when oblivion was first released i found it awe inspiring but afetr compelting it many times (100% complete with various races and classes) the novelty started waring off, but rather than become bored I became intrigued with the game engines potential.

 

Now imagine a SINGLE ESP/ESM that turns oblivion into the freeking matrix where everything is as real as reality as possible. imagine it!

now it maybe the case that this single mod may require several esp's but I think that if we combined the strengths and knowledge from the best mods out there we could probably create a game which has the capability for anything. if this mod is made then others can follow in its wake such as a crossover (star wars/star trek/stargate/D&D)

 

So although the time and effort required is epic if we can have a group of members on tesnexus who will see this though to the end then we would have cast aside all other mods as they would be obsolete compared to this one. and we would have a mod that we could easily update with necessary additions without having to trawl the internet only to find that certain mods arent compatible with others.

 

Also they demand on your pc that this mod would require would probably make you get an nvidia tesla computer, we could also integrate a settings list so that all could have a taste of the mod and as everyone has different tastes they could select adult or censored modes etc.

 

For me this site is that mod from which I can pick and choose whichever realism or anti-realism options I want. I find everything here, and to be honest one giant esp/esm which has 10,000 features that I wouldn't even be able to install cause my comp would freeze much less would I know what I'm installing makes me say just NO.

[TheCalliton]

you've got a good point

alot of that stuff id ont need. Only realism ive got is nudity and realistic arrow flight

 

p.s. does nudity even count as realism?

[Germandeathkittiez]

No... not when I end up with random naked ppl running through the streets who brag about how they're gonna make it in the world some day. But sexlivion I think is really anti-realism. we don't need sex in a combat-focused game it can be like in Fallout 3 when you sleep with that angel you just both go in the same bed and then wake up the next morning and you get the gist of what happened, like a movie. On the other hand, people running around the streets having random sex with eachother just doesn't seem any more realistic to me. Of course in a world of magic... who knows how it would be made use of...

[RevanUK]

Right quite a debate has exploded since i was last on here let me clarify the entire point. :wallbash:

 

A single esm/esp shouldnt really freeze your computer (I have been running a dell pos laptop with NO graphics card and oblivion works at full graphics settings and 145 mods running at once!!!!!!!)

 

Sex and nudity should be OPTIONAL just like other aspects like hunger, thirst, and sleep.

 

with all the mods that I have run there have been too many compatability issues hence the single esm/esp and although the mods themselves were excellent I couldnt have all running at once, which is what I wanted. Having a new game isnt necessary because if those compatibilty issues were resolved by creating an entire mod which could cover everything needed then the oblivion engine could easily handle it, (anyone disagree? then prove that the engine couldnt cope)

 

I beleive I am right not through foolish desire or idiotic imagination, but because the mods are already out there and they do work just not work with each other. :confused:

 

Again with the sex, remember fable? you flirt, date, marry and bonk! is that not realistic? I dont mean just type in console commands and have sex, no........but rather use speechcraft and SEDUCE an npc not program them to bend over! who knows that seduction and flirtation period could bring along interesting hidden quests! there are mods in which you can hire any npc as a companion so this could work.

 

bethesda will already be aiming for this level of realism for TES VI : the online shindig MMO that they currentely making so lets beat them to it!!!! :thumbsup:

[marabunta5]

Yopu made one big mistake Bethesda ain Making an MMO :P and nudity and sex doesnt fit in realism if youre "doing it" and bandits suddenly rob you while your naked then yeah what happens then? realism should go into the direction of realistic combat (like deadly reflexes [horse combat] shield bash) and stuff like Bandits not wearing glass or stuff that is what most people call realism i guess Ps your second mistake is a Comp/laptop needs a Graphics card to run :P wich else i used for your graphics?

 

Hunger thirst and sleep are all done already ( about thirst i dnt know and sleep dunno) but Hunger has been done a few times i think try looking some of those(mod types) up maybe they are good enough

[RevanUK]

:wallbash:

 

no wonder i feel intelligent im surrounded by idiots

 

all of you go ahead and install all the realism mods that already exist your game will crash and corrupt your saves.

 

I know it happened to me several times. Now how can i reword my point yet again? Lets forget about the the sex thing and keep it simple.

 

* One single mod with at most a few esps (to cover all aspects of the mod)

* Option List accessed through inventory (Same system as the Unofficial Oblivion Patch)

* Realistic NPCs (Flirt, socialise, find hidden quests)

* Body replacers both male and female (with options for selecting height, width, bust, thin, stocky, muscular etc.)

* More hair and eye styles

* Must also have aznars vampire mod integrated

* hunger, thirst, sleep integrated

* Deadly reflexes 5.0

* Hijack the damn fcom convergence crap and actually stick to tamrielic lore

* Massive magic abilities like midas magic spells of aurum

* Realistic marksmanship

* More npcs

* more quests

* guilds united

* cleaner imperial city

* hunting mods to add realistic immersion

 

anybody disagree with that list?

 

anywayz im putting together a full list of what mods NEED to be in this project and others that need to be made for it.

Bearing in mind the various components of this mod must be completely compatible with each other for it to work right.

 

Now concerning marabutthed 5

try overclocking your pc to 3.28Ghz with 4 gb ddr2 ram and actually update your pcs drivers

[marabunta5]

the list is good altho thigs like stocky and Muscular are a bit of a Moddig problem (muscular orcs and nords could be done but it would look weird a Muscular Mage :P ) and fcom is quite good at some points (i only know OOO [for a bit] and MMM) thats only two points i disagree with the rest is good :P and dont insult please.. (ps dont mess with the Name eh :P its Marabunta5 not marabutthed XD )

[RevanUK]

marabunta, u post patronising comments then im gonna insult u. nuff said.

 

but y has it taken so long for just a single person to understand what im trying to get at. ppl harp on about small mods that make such subtle and minor changes that they seem to be lacking so much. now i started this thread on this forum as i thought ppl here were lookin for help on mods or lookin to show off their work, now to issue a final note as im not gonna waste my time on this. can someone either give me tutorials on modding or actually give me a hand with this.